Moveset Factory

[Johans Nidorino]

I made these two (three) in November, 2007, while I was not completely sure that a cartoon Link would be in the game. It was after playing Phantom Hourglass. These characters appearing in two games gives you more freedom to build a moveset and more reasons to include them in SSB. I wonder if we'll continue seeing them or that graphic style in Zelda games.

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Name: Link (it is simply "Link" until you assembly a Super Smash Bros. game)
From: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (Nintendo GameCube, 2003)



Stats:
Speed: 6/10
Power: 5/10
Jump: 6/10
Fall: 5/10
Size: 5/10
Weight: 6/10
Traction: 7/10

Overall features:

• Link can wall-jump.
  
• When doing Smash Attacks with his sword, he'll be able to fire a beam from his sword if his damage counter is at 0%. This is a homage to swords from early games and also a reference to his power-up when using the Spirit of Courage.

Special Moves:
Up: Deku Leaf. Use it while on the ground to throw a gust of wind that pushes characters away. Use it while in the air to open it and use it as a parachute. Opening it in the air will damage nearby foes slightly. Like most Up Special Moves, you can perform this move even after flinching.

Neutral: Spin Attack. Hold down the button to make it gradually more powerful. Hold it for a long time to unleash a very powerful Hurricane Spin that leaves you dazed for an instant. You can walk, run and jump while charging this move and you can also move horizontally while performing the Hurricane Spin.

Down: Bombchu. Initially, it's like a regular Bomb as seen in the previous SSB games (you hold one and then you throw it). However, it doesn't explode immediately on the floor; rather, it starts walking away by floors, walls or ceilings until it finds an obstacle or after a pair of seconds. The number of moving Bombchus on the stage is limited.

Side: Boomerang. Throw it and control it freely as you hold down the Special Move button; it has a long reach and it's easy to control. Release the button to continue fighting while the boomerang returns to you. This Boomerang is a homage to the very first Magical Boomerang and to successive boomerangs that were intuitive to control with the help of advanced targeting or path tracing.


Final Smash: Ballad of Gales. Link uses the Wind Waker to conduct a song that summons two giant dancing tornadoes at both of his sides. Anyone who gets captured in these tornadoes will receive a high damage and will result dazed. Ballad of Gales is the song that summons cyclones in The Wind Waker, but the song played will be either Earth God's Lyric or Wind God's Aria because they are the "anthem" of the game when combined.


Grab: Grappling Hook. This can be used as a Tether Recovery.


Kirby Hat: Link's hat. Maybe, as a funny cameo, Kirby's Link hat could look like Ezlo from The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap.


Entrance: Link appears from a magical tornado.

Taunt 1: Link holds the Phantom Hourglass, which rotates glowing in the air between Link's hands.
Taunt 2: Link uses a Telescope to gaze at the camera while holding a sea chart.
Taunt 3: Ciela flies around Link, and Link looks at her happily.


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Name: Tetra
From: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (Nintendo GameCube, 2003)



Stats:
Speed: 8/10
Power: 3/10
Jump: 8/10
Fall: 8/10
Size: 5/10
Weight: 3/10
Traction: 4/10

Up: Seagull. Tetra grabs a seagull's feet to elevate herself and reach other places real quickly.
Neutral: Magic Armor. A shield that blocks damage from projectiles when holding the button. You can walk horizontally while holding the button but the shield doesn't last much time.

Down: Transform. Tetra transforms into Zelda while the "triforce gathering" tune from the title of A Link to the Past plays.
Side: Pirate's Charm. Her Pirate's Charm fires an horizontal green beam that after hitting a foe, will turn them around.


Final Smash: Bombs Away. Multiple Bombs will be fired as cannonballs at once by Tetra's pirates. The time at which each Bomb explodes is different and random, making them unpredictable.


Kirby Hat: Tetra's hair and scarf.

Entrance: She appears swinging off a candle rope.

Taunt 1: Tetra examines her Spoils Bag.
Taunt 2: Tetra's Triforce-shaped amulet shines and levitates.
Taunt 3: Tetra crosses her arms and winks.


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Name: Zelda (it is simply "Zelda" until you assembly a Super Smash Bros. game)
From: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (Nintendo GameCube, 2003)



Stats:
Speed: 3/10
Power: 5/10
Jump: 4/10
Fall: 5/10
Size: 5/10
Weight: 3/10
Traction: 6/10

Up: Shield of Wisdom. With the help of the Spirit of Wisdom, a blue light surrounds Zelda, damaging nearby opponents slightly. When airborne, this move lets Zelda elevate herself a little and gain a little horizontal reach.

Neutral: Light Arrow. Zelda fires a Light Arrow using the Hero's Bow. The arrow can be aimed freely and causes an explosion of light on contact.

Down: Transform. Zelda transforms into Tetra while a "puzzle solving" tune plays.
Side: Fire of Power. Zelda launches an horizontal fireball with the help of the Spirit of Power.


Final Smash: Phantom Freeze. A giant hourglass emblem appears, and Zelda summons the Spirit of Time, who will paralyze everything that is near. The closer the opponents and other things are to Zelda, the longer they will be paralyzed in time.


Kirby Hat: Zelda's jewelry.

Entrance: Zelda appears from a big, yellow sparkle.

Taunt 1: Zelda grabs and looks at her dress confused.
Taunt 2: Zelda extends her arms which sparkle magically.
Taunt 3: Zelda looks at the Triforce symbol on her hand.

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Tetra needs to be the default personality for this Zelda. As seen in Phantom Hourglass, Tetra dislikes to be acknowledged as Princess Zelda, and prefers to be called just Tetra (Miss Tetra for her friend pirates). That's her identity at the beginning and the end of The Wind Waker.

MEGA MAN FANS: See the Neutral Special Move for Link? That's how I'd do the Mega Buster, too. The game should be able to recognize regular fire and charged fire like Brawl handles the Super Scope, even when moving around. I think the "button hold while you do other stuff" thing is a technique I used a lot for these ideas, and well, you do that a lot in Mega Man games, too.

[Flip]

I'm lovin the Wind Waker love here. That is pretty much what Toon Link's moveset should've been. I think the Tetra moveset can be a bit tweaked, though. Using the pendant as an attack is weird. My moveset for her involved tossing daggers, whipping the grappling hook, and launching herself from a cannon. I think she had the Triforce Slash for a Final Smash. It made sense to me.

[Shrikeswind]

Well, well, Johans. Where have I seen THOSE before?

Here's a Gardy I've been toying with. Make some noise.

Name: Gardevoir
Game: Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire
Year: 2003

Stats:
Speed :: 3/10
Power :: 5/10
Jump :: 9/10
Fall :: 2/10
Size :: 8/10
Weight :: 3/10
Traction :: 1/10

Special abilities: If Gardevoir is given a negative status effect (such as having a flower planted on her head,) the person who gave it to her gets the same effect.

Special Moves:
Up-B
Teleport :: Gardevoir vanishes in a spiralling ribbon that deflects projectiles.
B
Imprison :: Gardevoir traps a nearby enemy in a psychic bubble that continually damages them until they break free.
Side-B
Magical Leaf :: Gardevoir launches a flurry of leaves, one of which will slash enemies with a miserable hit-box but an amazing lack of predictability.
Down-B
Light Screen :: Gardevoir creates a barrier of light that deflects projectiles. The projectiles move faster and hit harder when deflected in this manner.
Final Smash
Dream Eater :: Gardevoir puts her enemies into a deep sleep. Then, by walking into her enemies, she drains their health, healing half the damage she deals while waking them up.
Up-Taunt :: Gardevoir does a pirouette.
Side-Taunt :: Gardevoir places a hand over her chest and lowers her head.
Down-Taunt :: Gardevoir curtseys.
Entrance :: Gardevoir uses Teleport.

Kirby Hat :: Kirby's eyes are obscured by a green Beatles cut with a red horn sticking out of the front and back. You know, like Ralts' head.

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[Manspeed]

Well, well, Johans. Where have I seen THOSE before?

You know this guy, Johans?

[Koopaul]

I had similar ideas, except Neutral was the Boomerang, in reference to Link from Smash 64.

[Johans Nidorino]

Flip: for some reason (maybe that knife pocket) one tends to imagine Tetra using a dagger. Even though I never liked that approach, I can picture it in Smash. The grappling hook whip sounds interesting, too.

koopaul, at first I read that as "Zelda 64" and thought it could be an aimable boomerang

Jan 6, 2009 21:38:18 GMT -5 Manspeed said:

Well, well, Johans. Where have I seen THOSE before?

You know this guy, Johans?

Sure! Shrikeswind does this stuff a lot (SSB ideas) at his own website, and we met at a similar one before.

Welcome, Shrikeswind. I hope you like this place and contribute with findings in your games and showing these people your fanart.

[Shrikeswind]

Problems with both: The site's been empty for a while and there haven't been alot of submissions, which would be fine if I wasn't in the middle of a major update. I can only buffer it for so long, my brain hurts thinking of new ideas. And as for that fan-art, things haven't been going so good there, either. There aren't enough custom sprites on the Internet for me to be able to put together my comics. Between a certain Mod and a certain G-Mod going AWOL on me and the amount of work I have to do IRL (gettinajobgettinajobgettinajob,) neither site nor comics are going so great.

Thanks for the welcome, and I'm sure I will.

[Dasher Misire]

Hmhmhm. I love the Wind Waker stuff you got there. My favorite Zelda game and favorite incarnation of Link. Someone said your favorite Link reflects who you are... I guess that applies for me, haha.

My concept for Toon Link was a lot like that. I'll put the moves up seeing as I want to share.

(TOON) LINK
Hero of the Winds

B: Spin Attack/Hurricane Spin
Charge it up as much as you can, and when Link's sword gives off a spark of light, release the button! Releasing it right away, in the air, or before Link flashes entirely gives out a normal Spin Attack, which is two of the Wind Waker style spins. When you hold it for a longer time and Link suddenly glows a lime green, release for the legendary Hurricane Spin! Control Link's ultimate sword skill with the control stick, and be careful; Link can't be controlled with good reflexes in this state, and the longer you charged the attack, the longer his aftershock daze will last.

Side B: Grappling Hook
Link whips out the grappling hook and spins it like a lasso if on the ground. Grabbing an unarmed foe will cause Link to spike them into the ground for average damage. If they have an item on them (not counting a Smash Ball), the item will be snatched and Link will now have possession of it. Quite sneaky, Link! The only problem is the foes don't flinch if they had an item, so they have a good chance to quickly attack and try to reclaim it.

Up B: Deku Leaf
On the ground, Link lifts the leaf and flaps it to launch a gust of wind in a straight line. This does not do damage, but is like a smaller Move Psynergy from Issac. In the air, Link is pulled upwards by the sudden wind net he held above his head, and after about 3/4th of a second he will begin to float down. Pressing B or down will cancel in mid-air.

Down B: Parry Attack
Kind of a flashier variation of the way the Fire Emblem usual "Counter" is portrayed in Smash. Link will holds his weapons up like he would when L targeting in Wind Waker. If attacked half of a second into this second-long animation, Link will roll counterclockwise approx 300 degress around the opponent and do an uppercut parry slice.

Final Smash- Bomb Cannon
The Zelda "solved a puzzle" chime is heard as Link hookshots himself onto the King of Red Lions(always loved that little addition) in a suddenly rising tidal wave behind the stage (think Lugia, Andross, etc). The bomb cannon pops out, and Link controls the cannon to fire up to 10 bombs at his foes using the crosshairs that appear on-screen in the form of the Wind Waker starburst visual (used for the grappling hook, etc). They do less damage than Snake's RGB grenade launcher, but there's a good reason. Link has to return somehow, so the wave crashes over the stage with the King as Link jumps back onto the battlefield.

Otherwise he's a lot like Twilight/whatever next version there is Link down to most attacks, but here are some notable differences.

-This Link can crawl. Nice nod to how it's a permanent option in his game.

-Just in the way he swings his sword it is clear he hasn't trained long, unlike Twilight Link who has been training for a long time.

-He has the Mirror Shield. A little effect is a beam of translucent light is reflected off of the shield onto the nearest object, though it's for show and nostalgia.

-Taunts would remain the same, but I love Johans' taunts so I'm gonna say those would work, though over the hourglass I'd say the Wind Waker taunt would stay.

-Victory poses remain the same save the one where Link trips trying to catch the pig. He instead does his post-boss victory dance.

[Koopaul]

Y'know, I always thought about Little Mac. And I realize how difficult of a character he must be. The compose a moveset entirely on punches, no kicking or anything else. That's hard to do.

[Manspeed]

I think I might've made a moveset for him once. Can't really remember.

[Johans Nidorino]

Flip and Parrot have made Little Mac movesets and some of their moves match. I like how some are moves borrowed from other Punch-Out!! boxers. Maybe the Wii game will lead to more ideas.

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In the past I didn't like the idea of Little Mac being playable because introducing characters that are already fighters wasn't too exciting to me. But, he's a Nintendo star! I'd like to try him out in SSB4.

He's like a swordsman, except with gloves instead of swords.

[Shrikeswind]

Always did like Parrothead's Mac alot, though I prefer the NES Mac. Anyways, another idea I've been batting around, Marx from Kirby Super Star. Note that I screwed with his design a bit, as in "I gave him hands" (based on the claws in his boss form) but otherwise he is totally as he was to begin with (in his little balance-ball form.)

Name: Marx
Game: Kirby Super Star
Year: 1996

Stats:
Speed :: 7/10
Power :: 3/10
Jump :: 6/10
Fall :: 4/10
Size :: 1/10
Weight :: 3/10
Traction :: 5/10

Special Moves:
Up-B
Hide Guard :: Marx teleports away, creating four cutting
wind-blades on reappearance.
B
Marx Arrow :: Marx spits out an arrow. This arrow can pass through enemies when charged.
Side-B
Mirror Body :: Marx dashes forward, stunning foes for a mirror image of him to strike them again.
Down-B
Thorn Bush :: Marx creates a thorn-bush to stick neary enemies.
Final Smash
Nova Marx :: Marx transforms into his boss form. In this form, Marx is stronger, faster, invulnerable to knockback, his Marx Arrows always pass through enemies and fire three arrows when charged, and rather than jumping, he takes flight. Flight is controlled similarly to Pit's Wings of Icarus move, except that he can fly downwards, as well. Flight should be used sparingly, however, as Marx will lose the form faster in the air.
Up-Taunt :: Marx does a Poppy Bros. hop in a circle.
Side-Taunt :: Marx does a back-flip.
Down-Taunt :: Marx sits down and wiggles his feet.
Entrance :: Marx rolls in on his ball.

Kirby Hat :: Kirby dons the Mirror Hat and a bow-tie.

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[Boo Destroyer]

Jan 9, 2009 17:25:29 GMT -5 Koopaul said:

Y'know, I always thought about Little Mac. And I realize how difficult of a character he must be. The compose a moveset entirely on punches, no kicking or anything else. That's hard to do.

Marth's whole entire moveset is swordplay. With that, it can be easy for Little Mac to rely mostly on punches.

[Shrikeswind]

It'd be harder for a professional boxer, though. See, in Smash, you have to factor in smashes, tilts, aerials, specials, the dash attack, and the A-combo. The Down-attacks and aerials would make it rather difficult as it stands, as boxers don't generally fight at the knees or with jumps. You could work out most of the aerials, but the Down-tilt would be tricky, the Dair would be a problem, and the Down-Smash? Using nothing but punches? That'd be hard.

[Boo Destroyer]

Not entirely, but mostly. He can do a few kicks here and there, but...eh, he was fine enough as an Assist Trophy anyway.