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Post by Sqrt2 on Apr 16, 2009 16:48:24 GMT -5
All organised religions are old fairy tales. Your soul is made up of electrical impulses coursing through brain meat. When you die, you are just dead. There are no ghosts or spirits that exist without a body. We share a common ancestor with monkeys (and all other life on Earth at some point in our lineage). And what is the meaning of life now?  The same as it has always been: 42! ;D |
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Post by nocturnal YL on Apr 16, 2009 17:40:05 GMT -5
What does "42" mean? Or "42!"? The latter is a number too large...
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Post by Manspeed on Apr 16, 2009 18:57:50 GMT -5
Read the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. The we'll talk. It;s not really an art style if every single anime looks like it was drawn by the same person. Blue hair? Bubbly eyes? Femine men? I could go on. You could just as easily say that every cartoon made outside of Japan was drawn by the same person. I've seen people hold views just like that. Blue hair is usually used as a replacement for black. The bubbly eyes are taken from American cartoons (seriously, look around. Most cartoon characters have big eyes. It's a design technique). The feminine men thing is a theatrical element that's existed in Japan since the days of kabuki. Really. Don't jump to conclusions until you know what you're dealing with. And that's straight from the up-and-coming animator's mouth.  |
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Post by Wildcat on Apr 16, 2009 22:32:35 GMT -5
Koopaul: I was being serious. I would've 'ed it if I was joking. So sorry for the misintrepretation. Anywho, I'll try to post more later. I'm a bit too tired to now. |
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Post by Grandy02 on Apr 17, 2009 7:59:19 GMT -5
And what is the meaning of life now? The same as it has always been: 42! ;D I would like to read Fryguy's view on this, his posting made me depressed. When two of Jehovah's Witnesses came to our neighbour's door, he didn't let them get a word in edgewise and told them "there is no God" and stuff, similar to Fry. I also remember reading in the local newspaper that a young American who wanted to spread Christianity in my region was disturbed by how easy it is to get photos of naked women over here. Wait, didn't say koopaul something with religion? ;D |
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Post by TV Eye on Apr 17, 2009 8:18:43 GMT -5
how easy it is to get photos of naked women over here. I'm gonna have to pay a visit to Germany soon... |
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Post by Fryguy64 on Apr 17, 2009 8:45:01 GMT -5
I also remember reading in the local newspaper that a young American who wanted to spread Christianity in my region was disturbed by how easy it is to get photos of naked women over here. I'm in Germany next week! ;D The same as it has always been: 42! ;D I would like to read Fryguy's view on this, his posting made me depressed. The meaning of life is: The condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic objects and dead organisms, being manifested by growth through metabolism, reproduction, and the power of adaptation to environment through changes originating internally. But stealing jokes from That Guy With The Glasses aside... When you ask yourself the question "What is the meaning of life?" what do you actually mean? What do you hope to find out by asking that question? Here's some options: 1. What is the purpose of life? 2. What is the purpose of my life? 3. How should I live my life? 4. Why shouldn't I just kill myself right now? Science can answer the first one (to survive long enough to pass on your genetic material to the next generation)... You could argue that the second question is also answered (there is no specific purpose to your life other than the above). But that's only the answer if you want the actual scientific answer. Science doesn't give you morals, life-lessons or the pat-on-the-shoulder answer because none of these things have anything to do with science! Science will be able to tell you that the human brain is wired up in such a way to explain its environment, to co-exist with other members of the species, even to create and enforce rules... It will explain them as survival techniques, and it may even some day be able to create a working model for how these processes work, giving us true Artificial Intelligence. Even today, scientists can identify similar traits in other animals, and have made great inroads into creating machines that can learn. But science can only tell us why we create these rules, not whether the rules we have created are right or wrong. Science doesn't have little boxes of good or bad in which to slot things. This is where the "social sciences" come into play, such as politics and moral philosophy. These measure responses, reactions and historical precedents in order to form "the rules" that we live by. And these are constantly in flux as the state of human nature changes over time. People often say "what about all the rules in the Bible about how to lead a good life?" Well, what about all the rules in all the major religions about how to lead a good life? What about the common laws of the land that we live by that keep us on the straight and narrow? Nearly all of these are identical (and pre-date the writing of the Bible, and certainly pre-date it becoming popular). So can't we just say that mankind typically lives its life in a certain way, and we have always created methods of ensuring the minority that break these rules are kept in check or incarcerated? I live by the rules because they're there to be lived by if I want to function in this society. I don't live by them because I'm afraid of God, nor because I want to live in a magical wonderland after I die. And if I want a reason to be alive, the scientific answer is that my genes tell me to survive, the sociological answer is that the law tells me to stay alive, and the poetic answer is that there's just so much to live for! Who needs God? Certainly not me! |
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Post by Grandy02 on Apr 17, 2009 8:52:38 GMT -5
That was a good read, thanks!  |
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Post by flamedude on Apr 17, 2009 11:30:26 GMT -5
Atheism is the new religion!
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Post by Shrikeswind on Apr 17, 2009 12:39:35 GMT -5
Interesting, but I'm not sure I could ever go with that. I respect it, but I feel that living that sort of life where there is no "What happens next?" isn't for me. So I can't go for the Atheist thing myself.
I also don't find much wrong with believing in a kind and loving God in a scientific world, especially since alot of the time, when something horrible has happened, it was on man's own terms. World War II? That was us. Darfur? Us. Slavery? Us. Communism? Us. Global warming? Us (at least partially.) Every bit of this was human's doing, not God's.
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Post by Manspeed on Apr 17, 2009 14:02:39 GMT -5
Say Fry, remind me again what it is you do for a living, because I hope it involves writing. You're really good at it. |
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Post by Koopaul on Apr 17, 2009 14:22:12 GMT -5
I somewhat agree with Fryguy except for the idea that we live for ourselves and only for our own survival.
You are forgetting the impact your existance has upon others, the impact your existance has on the course of history itself.
Imagine if you were never born. Would the people you know be the same? Your family, what would they be like? Imagine your possible children or your childrens children. Somewhere along the line one of them could become a very important person in the world.
If you never existed this might never come to be.
So yes I agree we don't need a god. But don't just think we solely live our lives and that's it. I believe we all play a part in the history of mankind.
Maybe our role is insignificant now, but just imagine the possibilities if you were never born! It may have a great impact on history! That's enough to keep me going.
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Post by Shrikeswind on Apr 17, 2009 15:37:48 GMT -5
It works both positive and negative. What if the guy who told Hitler he wasn't accepted to the art school didn't exist? Would the Holocaust have happened? Or if FDR didn't exist? Would WWII have ended differently? Is it possible we would be in a Nazi world? That's why I don't like the idea that there is no more purpose to life than "Eat, sleep, screw, die."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2009 21:23:53 GMT -5
Within certain literary context, it is not taboo to say the n-word.
I've never met a single person who agrees with me on that point; if I'm reading a play, and I mean a classic play, or a book, or a movie that drops the n-word as a matter of contemporary context (such as, in the days where slavery had only recently ended), and you as a person are re-enacting that medium, be it as a professional or as a student, then it's more important to retain your artistic integrity than to kowtow to the PC police.
And trust me! I'm no fan of the word! But next time I read that play about Ralph Waldo Emerson aloud, I don't expect to get dirty looks when a bitpart that nobody laid claim to yells n****r spic and I choose to pick up the slack.
Again, it's very context-sensitive.
Also, I'm not a big fan of most Squaresoft games; SMRPG and TWEWY are about it. I'm alone on that front, too.
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Post by Koopaul on Apr 19, 2009 1:49:51 GMT -5
Yeah I prefer Enix's games over Square's.
Dragon Warrior > Final Fantasy
At least for me.
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