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Post by TV Eye on Mar 14, 2010 16:03:44 GMT -5
America was just a neutral safe haven for people to come when they wanted to escape the war. It wasn't until Japan for some reason decided to bomb Pearl Harbor that we felt the war was getting out of hand. Hell, even the UK and China went to war with Japan after Pearl Harbor (there were other reasons too).
That whole "stance" is kind of offensive to me because if America was more involved earlier on, I'd probably not be here. I had a Jewish great-grandfather who left Poland for America after the German invasion. He somehow slipped out and lived a safe life here in America.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2010 11:09:45 GMT -5
It could well be different elsewhere. I wouldn't ask the French though. I don't think they like you very much The feeling is mutual. Fucking frogs. Anyway, being American and hardly a patriot (which isn't to say I take the freedom I've been given for granted), I've come to realize that the more ignorant amongst our population always always always defer to World War II when getting in stupid arguments with foreigners. My cousin is particularly nasty when it comes to this: he can't play an XBox Live game with anybody of a different nationality because he gets in a dick-wagging contest over which country is better and always uses World War II as the basis of his argument. Those people also conveniently forget that we lost Korea and Vietnam. And the mess every war with the middle-east has been.
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Post by Manspeed on Mar 16, 2010 8:55:20 GMT -5
If you really wanna be cynical, Vietnam and the current "war" in the middle-east aren't really wars at all. They're more like invasions on our part.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2010 11:35:29 GMT -5
Present company excluded. <3
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Post by Manspeed on Mar 16, 2010 19:34:42 GMT -5
;D
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Post by Koopaul on Mar 17, 2010 19:51:11 GMT -5
Yeah America is far from perfect, but so is every country. Me I know that America isn't the best, the most righteous, or even fair country in the world. Sometimes far from it.
But I still wave my flag proudly. Why? Because its my home, and I think people should love their homeland.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on Mar 18, 2010 7:58:30 GMT -5
America and England are both shit.
Okay, see you later.
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Post by Fryguy64 on Mar 18, 2010 8:58:10 GMT -5
America and England are both shit. Okay, see you later. And yet... your ancestors were our rejects. ;D Ah, I don't care. Individuals should be taken on their own merits, but governments are inevitably shit. Best not to confuse the two, not get defensive if someone slams your government. It's not your job to defend them.
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Post by Koopaul on May 20, 2010 17:00:44 GMT -5
Ugh sorry to bump this but I came back from a really annoying argument.
Does anyone believe that simpler characters designs are better in the long run? I think they become more flexible and more recognizable that way.
Either way I hope this won't end with:
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
YOU IGNORANT FUCKER!
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Post by Manspeed on May 20, 2010 19:04:03 GMT -5
Yeah. I agree. I happen to be an animation major, and simplistic and flowy characters are considerably easier to animate.
Not to mention, when you get to the heart of the matter, most complex-looking characters are just variants on a much more simplistic template, and the added details in question are merely an attempt by the artist to make the characters stand out from said template. This especially applies to ordinary human characters.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on May 20, 2010 20:08:21 GMT -5
I agree with this statement. You ignorant fucker.
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Post by Koopaul on May 20, 2010 22:38:09 GMT -5
Well not just for animation reasons, flexible meaning they can be in many situations without looking out of character.
The argument started when I was defending the first generation Pokemon. They claim that they were dull and crappy. But I thought their simplicity made them more charming and easily recognizable.
Who could not spot the bright yellow Pikachu with his red cheeks and not identify with that?
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Post by Shrikeswind on May 20, 2010 23:36:02 GMT -5
More importantly, I had a shot at Kingdom Hearts once. Couldn't stand it, plot was stupid IMO. But anyways, I was on that Tarzan level and I couldn't help but think, "Wow. He should REALLY not be in that outfit out in the jungle." I mean, it's all over-done and everything. A guy in a similar outfit but without all the zippers and straps and whatnot, you know, solid colors, and maybe with a more regular looking sword (seriously, keys should not be swords, but it's an ignorable point,) I could picture him looking in place in the jungles of Africa just as much as in ancient Greece (to a lesser extent due to style, but regardless,) and in a modernish city. Sora, though, is so overdone he looks out of place EVERYWHERE HE GOES. And don't get me started on Goofy and Donald's designs. God, those were atrocious.
In conclusion, I agree with you. Now shut up, you ignorant fucker. =P
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2010 0:19:50 GMT -5
Sora's design is outrageous for every world he's in except for Atlantica. Yes, this includes Space Paranoids and Halloween Town. But I agree on the whole simpler character designs being more appealing, though I don't think Pokemon is a particularly shining example for this argument. Pokemon gamers gravitate towards the Pokemon of their generation, which, for most of this board, is Gen1, which is a far leap from Gen5. I've seen kids absolutely in love with Piplup, Turtwig and Chimchar despite how much ass I think they are, and it's just a Being A Kid thing. (If you were talking to people who aren't kids, then the whole thing above doesn't apply.) I'm the same way with Jet Grind Radio (*collective groan from entire MB*). I love the designs of the characters and world because they're so simple; Jet Set Radio Future's designs were more complicated, bordering on the nonsensical, and felt sort of cyberpunkish (which I'm not a big fan of), so I don't dig them as much.
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Post by 8bitretroshit on May 21, 2010 0:52:25 GMT -5
Pokemon is also a bad example because every gen has 100+/- of the fuckers and each has their share of simple and trying-too-hard designs. For example Kadabra and Banette.
Btw I'd like gen 1 a lot more if they'd retcon Magneton and Dugtrio. Evolving into a group of the same monsters is really really stupid.
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