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Post by Da Robot on Aug 25, 2010 22:44:22 GMT -5
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Post by Koopaul on Aug 26, 2010 0:29:32 GMT -5
Really, Koopaul, do you think before you speak? Erm sorry I was just talking in another discussion somewhere about American video games in Japan and why they always fail. We got really heated up. No need to steam here. |
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Post by kirbychu on Aug 26, 2010 16:57:38 GMT -5
It will still do better than Prime in Japan. Those xenophobes... .......................... .......I think it looks better than Prime....... |
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Post by Wildcat on Aug 27, 2010 18:07:21 GMT -5
Reviews are coming out. They are pretty wide on the review scale - it seems to be a love-or-hate type of game from what I've read, and it looks like the game follows the Fusion method of gameplay development over Super Metroid's freedom to explore. For some reason, Other M hasn't truly caught my attention over all this time, but I'm curious now to try it out and see what I think. Maybe I'll look into Gamefly or something.
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Post by superpoppybros on Aug 28, 2010 1:50:11 GMT -5
What Wildcat said, Other M has quickly become without a doubt a love-hate game now, I always had a little feeling it would end up as the (for the lack of thinking up a better love-hate game to compare it to) Super Mario Sunshine of the series(I liked SMS by the way), its not completely the same but still.
Its too bad the game in one way or another confirmed almost all the worries I always had for it (mostly the exploration,story and how Samus character is handled, really dissapionted at that,the Ridley scene being one of them, don't care if it was maybe a reference to the 2002 manga, everything about it was just bad,it could have been handled so much better) and I'am really dissapionted the game is apparently even more linear then Fusion but I will get the game nevertheless and complete it all to the end so I can form my opinion on it so until then I won't comment on anything M:OM related from now on.
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Post by Koopaul on Aug 28, 2010 20:51:38 GMT -5
D'oh I love exploration! Oh well I'm still getting it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 12:38:05 GMT -5
Am I the only one personally offended by this cutscene? Like - not only as a Metroid fan, but as a feminist, too. Hasn't Samus already faced Ridley a few times by this point? I forget when Other M takes place, but I know it's at least after Metroid. Why the hell has she devolved into a blubbering vagina? And I love how Anthony is perpetuating these gender stereotypes - as if Samus' behavior and space stilletos aren't doing their job well enough. Remember, fellas: women are emotionally unstable, weak and stupid!  PS: Ridley looks stupid. The only thing I could think of when he looked right at Blackie McDarkGuy was that they'd made his head look like Big Bird's. A roided up, space Big Bird. |
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Post by Wildcat on Aug 29, 2010 12:50:28 GMT -5
I'm choosing not to watch the cutscene, but I'm assuming it takes place in the present, not in the past, which is why it's bugging you.
In the manga, the first time Samus encounters Ripley (before the events of the NES Metroid) after he slaughtered her people/parents, she did recoil and emotionally shut down due to PTSD. If this is not a recap of that episode, and is instead taking place in the present day, when Ripley has been fought about 4 - 5 times without any hint of Samus having any further emotional distress (Samus gets over her fears in the manga later on, BTW, and becomes the badass we as Americans are more familiar with), then that's very odd, indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 12:56:47 GMT -5
I'm choosing not to watch the cutscene, but I'm assuming it takes place in the present, not in the past, which is why it's bugging you. In the manga, the first time Samus encounters Ripley (before the events of the NES Metroid) after he slaughtered her people/parents, she did recoil and emotionally shut down due to PTSD. If this is not a recap of that episode, and is instead taking place in the present day, when Ripley has been fought about 4 - 5 times without any hint of Samus having any further emotional distress (Samus gets over her fears in the manga later on, BTW, and becomes the badass we as Americans are more familiar with), then that's very odd, indeed. Yeah, it's present day. I haven't read the manga, but I feel even more validated hearing that Samus had overcome her fears. From what I can tell, Team Ninja/Sakamoto were very selective with what they took from preexisting Metroid lore. |
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Post by TV Eye on Aug 29, 2010 15:23:17 GMT -5
Am I the only one personally offended by this cutscene? comparing Samus in this game to a 12 year old girl whining in her journal and constantly wearing her emotions on her sleeve. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2010 17:05:23 GMT -5
Am I the only one personally offended by this cutscene? comparing Samus in this game to a 12 year old girl whining in her journal and constantly wearing her emotions on her sleeve. Shitting fuck shits. Okay, guess what guys: I deserve like a gold medal for the Space Stilettos, because this game is up-and-down sexist. That article means fucking diamonds for me. |
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Post by Wildcat on Aug 29, 2010 19:15:07 GMT -5
It's looking that way indeed. I'll be looking into a rental on this to see what I think, but it's sounding like Nintendo dropped the (morph) ball with this one.
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Post by Arcadenik on Aug 29, 2010 19:47:06 GMT -5
Wait... is Metroid: Other M sexist because Samus froze in the face of danger that Anthony Higgs had to come to help her out? Or is it sexist because Samus is a woman who froze in the face of danger that Anthony Higgs, a man, had to come to help her out? So Samus is supposed to act like a man because all men are stereotypically supposed to be strong, assertive, independent, and emotionless? Ahh, feminism... the idea that women are inferior to men unless they do everything men do.
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Post by TV Eye on Aug 29, 2010 23:22:44 GMT -5
Wait... is Metroid: Other M sexist because Samus froze in the face of danger that Anthony Higgs had to come to help her out? Well, if you read the article, you'd see that it was quoted as being sexist because Samus A) Is extremely submissive to Adam B) Video blogs her thoughts, describing them in ridiculous and childish ways C) Has her ass facing the camera whenever she's in her Zero suit D) Shows no signs of her ever being a lone, quiet, professional bounty hunter at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2010 0:35:47 GMT -5
Wait... is Metroid: Other M sexist because Samus froze in the face of danger that Anthony Higgs had to come to help her out? Or is it sexist because Samus is a woman who froze in the face of danger that Anthony Higgs, a man, had to come to help her out? So Samus is supposed to act like a man because all men are stereotypically supposed to be strong, assertive, independent, and emotionless? Ahh, feminism... the idea that women are inferior to men unless they do everything men do. You're missing the point by enforcing even more gender stereotypes. It's sexist because Samus, a woman who has squared off against Ridley four times (five if you count Robo-Ridley in Zero Mission), loses her shit and begins wailing and screaming in denial, while Darkie McBlackGuy is all BRAVE ACTION HEY I AIN'T NEVUH SEEN DIS DRAGODACTYL BUT DAT DON'T MATTUH I'S A MAN BAYBEE. By this point, Samus is a veteran bounty hunter, and while I'm not saying she's not allowed to express emotions, fear amongst them, the cutscene conveys a message of "women are weak unless there's a man to set her straight." Granted, it's partially because Team Ninja and Sakamoto have been incredibly selective of what they pull from Metroid's already-established canon, but like I said involving the space stilettos, I don't think they used too much common sense when making this game. Being that subservient to Adam is another tic of mine. Why is she like that? Okay - it's pretty clear that Other M's Samus has mommy and daddy issues out the wazoo, so maybe that's got something to do with it. But Samus is an adult, not to mention the aforementioned veteran bounty hunter thing! It doesn't excuse the fact that Samus is fawning all over her former commander. It's also sexist that the only way she can use her powers is if one of the other soldiers (who are all male) gives her permission. And that's another thing! Why the hell would you go into a mission with no idea of how dangerous it is and intentionally underequip yourself? There's no logic or reasoning behind it; saying that Samus forwent her gear because "she wanted to prove that she could take orders" is just a transparent excuse to have her start without it. I mean, even the typical "Samus starts the game with only the bare essentials" is more palatable, because there's nothing to read into it. Team Ninja and Sakamoto did not think any of this through. Then again, TN is the company that made jigglephysics the phenomenon it is today, so it shouldn't be that surprising. |
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