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Post by Boo Destroyer on Oct 24, 2009 13:52:14 GMT -5
What the heck is that first one?  The Japanese versions do give a lot of them names, but how odd that they're not named in English. Could it be NOA's apathy showing? Or not... If they could get English names, here's what they could possibly be. Now, taking a stab at it: www.mariowiki.com/Biifun = "Brutus" www.mariowiki.com/Hinyari = "Slick" (except he wasn't really...) www.mariowiki.com/Funfun = "Hothead" (or a slight variation thereof) www.mariowiki.com/Bobo = "Bullseye" www.mariowiki.com/Zenisukii = "Jack" (as in Jack-o-Lantern, duh!) www.mariowiki.com/Denpuu = "Djinnster" See how easy that was! It was worth a shot, nonetheless. EDIT: As a side note, having done the statistics on most Nintendo series, I've found out that a shit-ton of character names begin with M and S. Runners-up: B and C. Most peculiar...No wait, that's probably all that "Super", "Mega", "Big", etc jazz. |
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Post by Grandy02 on Oct 24, 2009 14:10:31 GMT -5
What the heck is that first one? Just read the linked interview. It's from a Journey to the West anime, dubbed Alakazam the Great in the US. It is stated that Bowser's initial appearance was inspired by the depicted character Gyu-Mao (ox demon king), called King Gruesome in the dub. Or for a summary, just look here. |
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Post by Manspeed on Oct 24, 2009 14:40:57 GMT -5
Moral: Try reading the thread before you post, Boo.  I once tried to come up with a list of names for the enemies in Super Mario Land. Koopaul said he tried the same thing. Half the time I just resorted to giving them the same names as other Mario enemies. |
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Post by Da Robot on Oct 24, 2009 17:35:13 GMT -5
I once tried to come up with a list of names for the enemies in Super Mario Land. Koopaul said he tried the same thing. Half the time I just resorted to giving them the same names as other Mario enemies. The manual for SML has the name of the enemies. (Well at least the PAL version does). |
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Post by Manspeed on Oct 24, 2009 20:33:12 GMT -5
English names? Because the US manual left their names in Japanese for some reason. I should've been more specific.  |
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Post by Koopaul on Oct 24, 2009 21:20:15 GMT -5
You know what kinda irks me about having generic Toads as playable characters? The word "Super"
Yeah you see the reason I believed Mario was always called "Super" is because he saves the Kingdom and does stuff no one else can. Mario and Luigi were Super Heroes in the Mushroom Kingdom! But now that any old generic Toad can do EXACTLY what the Mario Bros can do... It makes them less Super...
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Post by Manspeed on Oct 24, 2009 22:02:12 GMT -5
Unless only the Blue and Yellow Toads are Super enough to be on the same level as Mario and Luigi. Remember, in the NES version of SMB2, Toad was all blue. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2009 1:18:28 GMT -5
You know what kinda irks me about having generic Toads as playable characters? The word "Super" Yeah you see the reason I believed Mario was always called "Super" is because he saves the Kingdom and does stuff no one else can. Mario and Luigi were Super Heroes in the Mushroom Kingdom! But now that any old generic Toad can do EXACTLY what the Mario Bros can do... It makes them less Super... "Super" in that context can apply in multiple definitions. "Super" as in, "hey, those heroes are fscking super!" and "super" as in "I gained the appropriate power-up that can give me the prefix 'super' in my name." Not really that hard, brah. |
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Post by Hiker of Games on Oct 25, 2009 1:24:43 GMT -5
While that is technically true, it is a fair point that it makes Mario and Luigi seem a bit mundane. But playing the RPG games, you kind of get the impressions it's not so much that Mario (and Luigi) are special, its just that everyone else has too many excuses to not get involved.
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Post by Da Robot on Oct 25, 2009 2:26:41 GMT -5
English names? Because the US manual left their names in Japanese for some reason. I should've been more specific. Japanese names? I'll check when I get home from uni, which is in November unfortunately. |
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Post by Koopaul on Oct 25, 2009 2:50:56 GMT -5
While that is technically true, it is a fair point that it makes Mario and Luigi seem a bit mundane. But playing the RPG games, you kind of get the impressions it's not so much that Mario (and Luigi) are special, its just that everyone else has too many excuses to not get involved. Really I felt the exact opposite. Those guys are Superstars in the RPGs from Culex wanting to challenge the most powerful being. To everyone praising Mario like celebraty in the Paper Mario series. In Super Paper Mario he is the Chosen One. Let's not forget that at the end of Yoshi's Island DS he is one of the children born with Stars in their hearts. I think its greatly implied that Mario is not the average guy. |
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Post by nocturnal YL on Oct 25, 2009 4:10:04 GMT -5
Whoam, let's see...
>Koopaul
Just.... don't call them "Super Toads" if you don't want to.
Also, gameplay over story. Gameplay. Don't try to dig into too much details when it comets to Mario when even story-driven games like Fire Emblem have big flaws.
>TEi
Exactly. "Super Toad" doesn't sound strange when you think of it as "Toad with Super Mushroom".
>Hiker of Games
I agree. People seem to be relying on the bros because they don't feel much involvment. "You can do it, Mario" can mean "I don't want to do it so YOU do it, Mario".
>Koopaul again
Again, don't try to dig into the story of Mario too much. Settings aren't even applicable to other games outside of their specific series. That's one thing I think Mario Wiki is really, really bad at.
You can't talk inter-game story in games with no connection drawn between them.
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Post by Manspeed on Oct 25, 2009 9:57:29 GMT -5
In some cases it works.
For example, it could be said that Desert Hill (SMB3), Kalamari Desert (MK64) and Dry Dry Desert (PM) are all supposed to be the same place, because Kalamari Desert and Dry Dry Desert are both called "Kara Kara Desert" in the Japanese releases, while Desert Hill wasn't even given a name save for "Koopahari Desert" which was only used in some NoA material back in the 80s/90s, such as the cartoon show.
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Post by Hiker of Games on Oct 25, 2009 10:03:43 GMT -5
What Mario has going for him that no one else does (including Luigi) is that he's brave and selfless. Everyone else has varying problems of cowardice, apathy, selfishness, or various other reasons for being involved. It makes the Mario universe pretty funny actually. It looks like an ideal paradise on the surface, but the people who live there are all petty and self-interested.
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Post by The Qu on Oct 25, 2009 10:05:14 GMT -5
In some cases it works. For example, it could be said that Desert Hill (SMB3), Kalamari Desert (MK64) and Dry Dry Desert (PM) are all supposed to be the same place, because Kalamari Desert and Dry Dry Desert are both called "Kara Kara Desert" in the Japanese releases, while Desert Hill wasn't even given a name save for "Koopahari Desert" which was only used in some NoA material back in the 80s/90s, such as the cartoon show. Not to mention the ultra obvious connection that Kalamari and Dry Dry Desert both share that train. As for Japanese Mario Land enemies, just look them up on Mariowiki. They weren't trasnlated. For instance, the goombas are named Chibibo- they are tiny kuribos. |
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