Miyamoto doesn't hate plot in all games, but he does believe that Mario games do not need story lines like Zelda or Fire Emblem. There's a reason why after Galaxy, story was essentially purged from all of the subsequent mainline Mario games.
It wasn't really "purged" so much as it....went back to being the same as it always was. At the very most they stopped using dialog boxes in-game, which I think may have been more for ease of localization than anything else. You might notice that now even the box art looks exactly the same in all three regions. It's a differently world than it was 20-30 years ago.
To be fair, he's said that he considers the Mario characters as actors being put on different stages. Therefore Mario and Peach aren't actually a couple and Mario doesn't hate Bowser. That's why they enjoy go-karting so much.
Mickey and Minnie are actors and they're still a couple.
And I doubt Mario could bring himself to hate anybody. It's Bowser who hates Mario, not the other way around.
Besides. Everyone knows Peach and Bowser are really getting it on behind the scenes.
and mario is really on drugs lol
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Post by Shrikeswind on Feb 14, 2015 18:39:41 GMT -5
Skepticism abounds. I can picture Rayman, I guess, but since all of them are pictures of him in the same pose and none of them are gameplay, there's much room to fake it. It'd be a bit tough to get the modelling done to fake it if this is an entirely new one, but on the other hand, it's a lot easier to make it convincing since his hands and head are not attached to his body.
Post by nocturnal YL on Feb 14, 2015 22:38:36 GMT -5
Greninja remains below Marth, so I'll assume that either nothing before what's shown has changed, or they're no longer having 13 entries per row, the latter of which would mean there are even more characters.
Either way, I'm not interested in buying Mewtwo (I only have the Wii U version) or Rayman, so I don't even care if it's real or not.
If Rayman really is in, then that means we could see some references to the classic series and not just Origins and Legends. It'd sort of make sense, the first Rayman was on the Gameboy Color (and it looked FANTASTIC) and the GBA.
nocturnal YL: I just realised that I haven't made a proper post for more than a month. I was either busy at work and thus didn't want to make long posts, or I was busy playing… well, you know. Time spent on playing games is time not spent on talking about games.
Nov 19, 2023 12:14:24 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: I was thinking how I considered the original Donkey Kong Country to be a generic Super Mario Bros clone with fancy graphics, but SMB Wonder only just caught up to the level of quality that DKC Tropical Freeze gave us almost a decade ago.
Nov 20, 2023 14:57:21 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: This is surprising. I see DKC as the least Mario-like platformer to feature a Mario character. The Wario Land games still feature Mario-style blocks and pipes, for example, while DKC lacks many Mario elements.
Nov 21, 2023 8:16:55 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: True that DKC lacks a lot of specific Mario-like details, but it has the basic gameplay in that you run, jump, and defeat enemies by landing on them. I didn't see it as having much more than this, thus why I considered it generic.
Nov 21, 2023 9:27:07 GMT -5
Evie ❤✿: Yeah, psychologically there is a 'first example' thing. When something new is released and is thought to be innovative, and becomes popular it can lead to comparing newer games to be like it (so we have newer genres like "Metroidvania").
Nov 24, 2023 18:28:16 GMT -5
Evie ❤✿: I find it interesting with platformers, it's less often that we regard platform games after Mario as "Mario-like". On this note, I also find it interesting how certain genres are treated differently.
Nov 24, 2023 18:29:32 GMT -5
Evie ❤✿: In addition to the "platform" (rather than Mario-like) and Metroidvania examples (incidentally there were games like Metroid and Castlevania before their release), some games are seen as "rip-offs" if people think they're too similar.
Nov 24, 2023 18:31:26 GMT -5
Evie ❤✿: An example is how some people treat Fossil Fighters, Robopon, Yo-Kai Watch as Pokémon 'rip-offs' or clones, and the 'monster-battling' genre is often seen as less 'mainstream' than something like 'platformer'.
Nov 24, 2023 18:32:39 GMT -5
Evie ❤✿: Also on that note, often people on databases, wikis, etc. stick to only a few genre labels like "platform", "arcade", "fighting", "racing" etc. but there are many more ways to describe a game.
Nov 24, 2023 18:35:03 GMT -5
Evie ❤✿: The developers may choose to advertise their game using their own genre, so for instance Starfy was given the label "marine action" in Japan rather than "platformer". I think in essence these don't exist in isolation though.
Nov 24, 2023 18:36:28 GMT -5
Evie ❤✿: It also reminds me of how there was apparently a debate on whether NES The Legend of Zelda is an adventure game or RPG (or something like that).
Nov 24, 2023 18:37:27 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Happy 6th anniversary to my favorite RPG, Xenoblade Chronicles 2!
Nov 30, 2023 20:54:33 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: The Super Mario Bros. Wonder speedruns don't feel much like Mario speedruns. Any% takes more than 80 minutes, and features slow Wonder Seed segments and a lot of loading time. They're rather boring to watch compared to even the New SMB games.
Dec 2, 2023 6:08:10 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: I've got a lot of Nintendo Switch demos that I haven't got to play. At this rate I'll never clear my backlog even if I don't buy anything.
Dec 2, 2023 10:36:45 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: I've finally finished Ciel nosurge DX. Its end is directly connected to the beginning of Ion's part in Ar nosurge DX, which means I'll have to play through that to experience the whole story.
Dec 2, 2023 12:45:14 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Going through everything takes more time than finishing an entire quadrilogy in the Atelier series. I think it'll be another few months before I even touch another game.
Dec 2, 2023 12:46:32 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Also, this is of no use to most people reading this, but Surge Concerto confusingly has save data bonus that goes both ways. To experience the story in chronological order, do Sekai Link in Ar nosurge DX as soon as possible, then play Ciel nosurge DX.
Dec 2, 2023 13:05:55 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Any advice you find online about needing to advance Ar nosurge's story to a certain point does not apply to the DX version. Just make the save data and leave it behind to avoid Ciel nosurge spoilers and not understanding Ar nosurge's story.
Dec 2, 2023 13:07:17 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: (By the way, the PS3 and PS Vita versions of Ar nosurge is available in English, but not Ciel nosurge. The DX version is entirely Japan-only. I have much to complain when it comes to localisation for both Gust and the whole of KOEI TECMO GAMES.)
Dec 2, 2023 13:12:43 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Been a bit busy recently and haven't had a chance to respond to things until now.
Dec 7, 2023 10:50:24 GMT -5