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Post by Shrikeswind on Jun 4, 2010 21:06:40 GMT -5
Blah, blah, and blah. Just to continue where the cross-over idea in Koopaul's thread was heading without driving that ship off course.
Commence, I don't got anything right now.
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Post by Prince~Of~Light on Jun 5, 2010 2:15:35 GMT -5
Okay, so collaborative crossovers it is- Good.
It's still unclear to me how much writers there should per story.
Maybe two members pick their own favorite fandoms and make a crossover about them?
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jun 5, 2010 2:26:16 GMT -5
That could work, but that only creates a two-sided story, basically Mario and Sonic. Which is decent, but one person could do that. No, a collaboration allows for alot more than just two series. It's capable of incredible sizes, so I don't think saying two people taking their favorites would be the way to go. Three or four? And two of their favorites? Yeah, because that's anywhere from three to eight series already. Impressive, I'd say.
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Post by Prince~Of~Light on Jun 5, 2010 11:38:38 GMT -5
That could work, but that only creates a two-sided story, basically Mario and Sonic. Which is decent, but one person could do that. No, a collaboration allows for alot more than just two series. It's capable of incredible sizes, so I don't think saying two people taking their favorites would be the way to go. Three or four? And two of their favorites? Yeah, because that's anywhere from three to eight series already. Impressive, I'd say. Okay! Now that's s-weet! (-lwl-) But can it still be that we can pick what fandoms we want? Here's fandoms what I like to take on here: -Kirby -Panel De Pon -Sutte Hakkun -Marvelous -Kuru Kuru Kururin -For The Frog The Bell Tolls -Balloon Kid -Rhythm Heaven & Elektroplankton. There- (-'w'-) |
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jun 6, 2010 20:50:46 GMT -5
Whoa, that may be a bit tough. 8 series on one person? Remember that you'd have to be collaborating, as well, so your cowriter may want to add Donkey Kong, and he's going to end up having a far greater focus on his apes than you'd have on everything else. And I'm not trying to insinuate that you're a bad writer, but the problem is that, when you start spreading focus, quality tends to dip since, pretending you use 2 characters to a series, you're taking on 16 different personalities that you have to keep track of, meanwhile, the DK writer's going to have 2 personalities and therefore much more room for character development. The end result? Even if you're the better writer, more people will enjoy the DK sections because there's a much greater connection between writer and character. Basically, it's easier to keep track 4 characters and each of their relationships to each other than it is to keep track of 18. If you really think you can I wouldn't begrudge you, but I'd advise against it.
And yes, you could choose your own, but if I may criticize (and please take this with the right intentions, I mean only to be helpful,) your list seems very...I wanna say childish? I can't pick out a better word, so I'll have to. I mean, for example, you mention the Kirby universe. It's a very happy universe filled with gumdrops and rainbows. A fun universe, and I very much enjoy the happiness of such a universe. But if the story went into more mature territories, Kirby would be too innocent to use. And your entire list (or at least the ones that I'm familiar with to any degree, the ones I'm not so good on being Sutte, Marvelous, and Kururin,) follows this trend: The series could rarely be put into a more mature world (Kaeru being the only exception, as it's a fairy tale, it could be taken in several lights, from the Tolkeinian masterpiece to the Mother Goose lullaby, and all could do so beautifully.)
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Post by Prince~Of~Light on Jun 7, 2010 3:22:24 GMT -5
Whoa, that may be a bit tough. 8 series on one person? Remember that you'd have to be collaborating, as well, so your cowriter may want to add Donkey Kong, and he's going to end up having a far greater focus on his apes than you'd have on everything else. And I'm not trying to insinuate that you're a bad writer, but the problem is that, when you start spreading focus, quality tends to dip since, pretending you use 2 characters to a series, you're taking on 16 different personalities that you have to keep track of, meanwhile, the DK writer's going to have 2 personalities and therefore much more room for character development. The end result? Even if you're the better writer, more people will enjoy the DK sections because there's a much greater connection between writer and character. Basically, it's easier to keep track 4 characters and each of their relationships to each other than it is to keep track of 18. If you really think you can I wouldn't begrudge you, but I'd advise against it. Thanx for the good advice, but sorry to add that this was the fandoms that I want to write. Since I dunno how much fandoms we can choose, I just listed them here. (-LL-) But I'm prone to fall into taking too much fandoms again, so thanx for reminding. (-lwl-) So I must choose about two fandoms? Dunno, yet. And yes, you could choose your own, but if I may criticize (and please take this with the right intentions, I mean only to be helpful,) your list seems very...I wanna say childish? I can't pick out a better word, so I'll have to. I mean, for example, you mention the Kirby universe. It's a very happy universe filled with gumdrops and rainbows. A fun universe, and I very much enjoy the happiness of such a universe. But if the story went into more mature territories, Kirby would be too innocent to use. And your entire list (or at least the ones that I'm familiar with to any degree, the ones I'm not so good on being Sutte, Marvelous, and Kururin,) follows this trend: The series could rarely be put into a more mature world (Kaeru being the only exception, as it's a fairy tale, it could be taken in several lights, from the Tolkeinian masterpiece to the Mother Goose lullaby, and all could do so beautifully.) That's right, I'm little childish guy, you could have seen even a few times in this forum. But that's not the only reason I picked these fandoms- I like most of the Nintendo's fandoms, (new one seems to be Sin & Punishment now) but these are my personal faves and I like to look on the gameplay more than the presentation- This is why I like Hakkun and Kururin, not to mention Rhythm Heaven. But why it should be an obstacle to write about these fandoms, actually? Them being about in point of "childish" and thus not to be so able to fit in more "mature worlds"? I still want to write them away and give them new adventures you don't expect them have, (but in moderate boundaries, of course) no matter how childish the series are. I've thought of taking on Kirby-series, by using this iffy, unconfirmed subject in the series as a theme. Thought also of not writing about the star of the game himself. (-ll-) Besides, I've seen many fiction that takes on some kind of childish series and writes it away in new, professional perspective: In the way you didn't expect see the series being written like that way. It's like someone makes a bad-ass-looking art about Mario Bros: Don't you just immediately love that take on it? It's so new and different than the actual series, and so, it looks quite amazing. That's what I'm trying to do when writing the series I like, I don't try to write them in the perspective you see them everytime, let's say this time, "childish", but in newer, more mature perspectives. For the more obscure series, I try to presentate them in the way they are, but in more wider perspectives and details. Wish that we two aren't here alone anyway, others should come here too. (-ll-) |
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Post by Koopaul on Jun 7, 2010 20:11:54 GMT -5
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jun 7, 2010 23:18:44 GMT -5
No, no, I'm not limiting you at all, I'm just requesting you find a limit for yourself. If you can take on 8 series with any number of characters per series, go right ahead, I won't stop you, as it's not my place to cast doubt on your capacity. It is, however, my place to remind people to know their limits, not because it actually is anyone's place but because it's everyone's place to do so.
Though I understand the rest of the point, I do wish to take this opportunity to point out the surreality of a blood-soaked Kirby.
Then I expect that you should be able to pull it off at least with regards to theme. Having little experience with your writing, I can't make any judgment on whether you can do it as a writer, but as an artist in general I can tell you have the capacity.
Also, Koopaul, just because Kirby lives in a world with Eldritches everywhere doesn't mean that the world he lives in is any less of a sugar bowl.
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Post by Prince~Of~Light on Jun 8, 2010 5:58:03 GMT -5
Lawl, blood-soaked Kirby. But I think maybe not in terms of violence, lawl.
Not to mention the Koopaul's reference, but it might make sense because it's settled on DREAMLAND.
Nightmares shouldn't then look sugarcoated. (-l_l-)
So for the crossover collaboration story...
I've thought still to stick mostly on Kirby since I find using of obscure series little risky, because I'm sure that not everyone here are familiar with them. I might try to meddle with 3 series now.
-Kirby ( Adeleine & Ribbon, Plot done)
-Marvelous & Another Code (Dion, Max, Jack & Ashley, plot might be co-worked with someone else)
There, that should do it for this collab now. I have then 6 characters-
Okay, Just have to get this thing started up somehow.
So any of ya other's, youve done with your fandom picks?
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jun 8, 2010 22:08:54 GMT -5
Got mine, just five characters and two series.
Donkey Kong - Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Dixie Kong, and Funky Kong. Gotta have Funky Kong or the group dynamic simply will not work.
Pokemon - A Magikarp. If anyone else wants to be a Magikarp he will be known by the admittedly ironic name of Samson.
With regards to villains, we're going to have to figure the plot out first, since we've pretty much determined a start-up with 10-11 characters.
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Post by Prince~Of~Light on Jun 9, 2010 6:29:49 GMT -5
5 apes and one karp who didn't find it's power of Chosen yet.
Interesting.
'Kay, will we discuss the plot here, or by PM?
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jun 9, 2010 20:36:03 GMT -5
Four. Four apes.
Here, since it opens up as many people as possible to talk. Provided they join in....
I'm thinking something interesting: What if there were several stories going on at once, and then they just kinda merge near the end? Kinda like Subspace Emissary, but the interconnection is less obvious.
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Post by The Qu on Jun 9, 2010 22:49:22 GMT -5
Might as well throw my support in. I'd like to call the Mother series (Ness, mainly) a Poliwhirl and Luigi. Sound good? I can space out the characters if needed.
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jun 10, 2010 0:25:31 GMT -5
Go for it. So now we have Ness, Poliwhirl, and Luigi? Or do you have more?
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Post by The Qu on Jun 10, 2010 0:49:48 GMT -5
There will probably be side characters, but those are the focuses. I kinda want to throw in Pikachu alongside Poliwhirl. Know what? I might as well.
So, when do we start?
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