Post by Nester the Lark on Jun 14, 2018 19:18:13 GMT -5
Here's a video of the Treehouse Live segment where they announced Donkey Kong and Sky Skipper.
They even point out how Sky Skipper is completely unaltered (referring to the "Damn it. I'll escape..." message shown between levels).
...Anyway, E3 is pretty much over now. Overall thoughts? What were your highs/lows? What game announcements surprised you or were your favorites?
I'll post my detailed thoughts later after I've had a chance to think about it a bit, but my general impression is that while it had some pretty cool moments, it wasn't an overall spectacular E3 for me.
Post by Nester the Lark on Jun 15, 2018 16:35:45 GMT -5
For me, despite not really caring as much about Smash as most people, there were still some pretty good announcements. Nintendo starting off the Direct with Daemon X Machina was unexpected, but it got my attention. The DLC for Xenoblade 2 was cooler than I thought it would be. We got a look at the new Fire Emblem. The surprise release of Donkey Kong arcade was really cool. Plus, Star Fox being in that Starlink game was a fun surprise at the Ubisoft conference.
But despite that, it was what wasn't there that seemed conspicuous. Wishful thinking aside (new F-Zero, Mother 3 localization, etc.), as well as not expecting either Metroid Prime 4 or Bayonetta 3 to actually make appearances, it still seemed like there were things missing. Yoshi for Switch was announced at last year's E3, and it was completely absent this year with not even a mention or update. Also, we still don't know what Retro Studios is working on, if anything (it's been over four years since DKC: Tropical Freeze's original release).
So, I guess it was the lack of teases for new games and updates for known games that made Nintendo's E3 feel just a bit subdued for me.
Post by nocturnal YL on Jun 16, 2018 1:29:05 GMT -5
I do like this E3 overall. It's not that good, but it's a case of "expected nothing, got something".
Given how Japanese-styled my game profile is, I naturally didn't expect anything at all for any E3 shows, except maybe Nintendo's (who, since the Wii U era, didn't really differentiate their markets and would feel comfortable advertising Japanese games to the west).
So it all comes down to Nintendo. I expected, but didn't want to see: - Nintendo 3DS stuff - Any Wii U-to-Switch ports of any Nintendo-published games at all - Indie stuff, as they tend to be announced by their own developers before Nintendo - In-depth discussions on Mario Tennis or Pokémon
I wanted to see: - Smash not being a total disappointment - Some showcase of Fire Emblem 16, along with a relese date - Actual new announcements
And it turned out that it did almost none of these, except a very impressive Smash presentation that addressed most of the fan complaints (game is too slow, Ganondorf not using a sword, directional air dodge, make all past fighters join…).
So yeah, positive impression on average, but not much. I'm glad they showed a good-looking new Smash, and we get a trailer of Fire Emblem: Three Houses. Not impressed by the complete lack of other announcements (Super Mario Party didn't excite me, the Xenoblade 2 DLC isn't really news), and a 2019 release window for both Fire Emblem (I expect up to May when they say spring) and the Yoshi game (which I'm not interested in due to its use of a ready-made game engine, but it's still a disappointment).
At least they didn't show any Wii U-to-Switch port and 3DS games. They didn't even bring any 3DS demo units to the venue.
Smash announcement and gameplay changes were good but it felt like there was a major lack of other game announcements that hurt it. Nintendo should have warned fans that over half the presentation (25 minutes out of 45) was going to be Smash instead of just saying the "end" of the presentation was going to be Smash focused (which makes it sound like it would be the last 10 minutes). Yoshi delayed to 2019, no update on MP4 (couldn't they have at least given a mention of it's place in the time line?). FE trailer was good to see.
No 3DS games, even in Treehouse Live, I understand the 3DS is on it's way out but we still have Nintendo published games coming out to 2019. Couldn't they have at least previewed something already announced like WarioWare Gold or at least warned that there would be zero 3DS games to preview this E3? Even 2016's all Zelda E3 had 3DS games like Rhythm Heaven Megamix and the unveiling of Ever Oasis. While 2017 had the Metroid 2 remake come out of nowhere despite not being in the E3 presentation.
I think my problem is I got my expectations up to high from previous E3's.
nocturnal YL: I've been thinking about how would things turn out if we do another NinDB Top 25 after 5 years passed. One thing I'm sure is that the participation rate would remain low.
Aug 16, 2020 13:17:30 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: So, having said in my post in Dream Fighters what I've been spending my quarantine on, what about you guys? How are you hanging onto sanity?
Aug 24, 2020 23:16:48 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: Also I don't know that I've ever spent as long building a Smash fighter as I did with WG, and I'm going to hit this one hard here, it was all the costume work.
Aug 25, 2020 5:28:43 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: I'm reminded why I don't bother with that. I had the luxury of easy-to-grab screenshots and it still took literal hours to finish that post.
Aug 25, 2020 5:29:24 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Let's not talk about me and sanity.
Aug 25, 2020 10:19:20 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: Very well, we shall talk of other things, like shoes and ships and sealing wax, and cabbages and kings, and why the sea is boiling hot, and whether pigs have wings.
Aug 25, 2020 11:51:55 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: It strikes me that perhaps I should not be mentioned in the same breath as sanity myself.
Aug 25, 2020 11:52:44 GMT -5
Boo Destroyer: RuneScape.... I haven't heard that name in a long, long time.
Aug 27, 2020 18:35:05 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: I still play. Matter of fact, I'm currently playing. It actually just came out with a new skill this past March, if you can believe it.
Aug 28, 2020 2:59:22 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: In a way, I'm glad I'm unrelated to those fan communities of the games I play. I just sit back and play games casually, not really caring whatever scandals or elitism or holier-than-thou attitudes going on.
Sept 1, 2020 12:04:16 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: I think I need to track down some horribly cursed Pokemon content now after that. You know, since that was such a heavy topic to drop in the middle of a quiet forum.
Sept 1, 2020 12:44:53 GMT -5