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Post by Smashchu on Jul 3, 2007 2:28:50 GMT -5
I was talking to someone about the fact that F-Zro wasn't that popular of a franchise. I called it a teir 3(you know, as as a random n ame, no real teir). But, then, hecvk I made one.
I based it on sales an overall popularity of not dead franchises(so no Kifd Icarus) as a sort of importaints factor. My question is just how accurate is it?
1st Teir(Franchises popular worldover. Sales extermely well, have large fan following and are generally liked by both critics and gamers, save for Pokemon) Mario Pokemon Zelda Smash Bros Brain Age
2nd Teir(More region specific. Usually sells well and is gernerally liked by many. Normally gets good scores in reviews and has few flops) Metroid Kirby Donkey Kong Mother Starfox
3rd(Usually liked by fans and ccritics. Never considered a favorite and usually survive thanks to other franchises holding them up. Good, just not great). F-Zero Fire Emblem Panel de Pon/Tetris Attack Pikmin Famicom Wars Golden Sun
4th(Basiclly, everything else that isn't a dead franchise)
So, yeah. I kind of just made it. So, is their any truth to it.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on Jul 3, 2007 3:37:42 GMT -5
Brain Age top tier? Who what when where why how? Mother 2nd tier?
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Post by Fryguy64 on Jul 3, 2007 5:40:38 GMT -5
Well... yeah, Brain Age is one of the biggest selling games ever. Outsold the original Tetris on GB already. I'd say it's pretty high-tier.
I wouldn't put either Mother or Fire Emblem in tier-2. Their popularity is blown out of proportion by loud fan-bases - both series are actually low sellers even in Japan. That's the problem with labours of love - the series lives on because those who do buy them LOVE them.
I think the tiers are possibly a little too vague to be workable, to be honest. Sure, everyone knows that Mario, Pokemon and Zelda are Nintendo's "big three", but what you do with the rest is not particularly constructive. Just find and quote the relative sales figures. It makes you look more important ;D
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Post by Smashchu on Jul 3, 2007 12:44:44 GMT -5
I think the tiers are possibly a little too vague to be workable, to be honest. Sure, everyone knows that Mario, Pokemon and Zelda are Nintendo's "big three", but what you do with the rest is not particularly constructive. Just find and quote the relative sales figures. It makes you look more important ;D Your probobly right. But, it's like anything you create. Others may shun it, but you'll hold on to it as your own because it's yours If I were to continue it(just for the sake of doing so) I'd probobly take your advice and bump FE and Mother to 3rd.
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Post by nocturnal YL on Jul 5, 2007 1:49:17 GMT -5
Never thought Brain Age would sell... I've tried it on my friend's DS, and the game is just WAY TOO EASY.
I pretty much agree on Smashchu's list, excep for the followings:
- Brain Age... I'd put it in 2nd tier. It is popular, yes, it just doesn't appeal to me at all. - FE games belong to teir 3. It appeals to more of specific fans than the general public, I guess... not much people enjoy playing SRPGs with no actions at all. In short, Fire Emblem games are brain games. If not being ACG works, I'd say they should be in last tier. - F-Zero - it is better than just well-received by critics... it would hit the 2nd tier, I'd say. It should be somewhere between 2 or 3... - Mario - it depends on Mario what. Mario's Picross didn't sell well outside Japan, and Mario & Yoshi isn't too well-known... Mario in general DO deserve being in tier 1, though.
And I think I would put some in the list: - Panepon, tier 3 - Famicom Wars, tier 3 - WarioWare, tier 2 (Sorry, but can't resist for a massive INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS fanboy)
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Post by Smashchu on Jul 5, 2007 2:26:54 GMT -5
^ I mixed things up a bit. I'm not sure about Warioware since it never sold amazingly well. I'd have to think about it. It is in order. For instance, Mario>Pokemon despite the fact they are in the same teir.
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Post by Fryguy64 on Jul 5, 2007 4:01:14 GMT -5
Yes, but Mario has outsold pretty much everything ever. If you're talking in terms of sales and general popularity, you can also safely assume that Pokemon>Zelda.
Despite Zelda being the better series. ;D
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Post by Hiker of Games on Jul 5, 2007 8:42:10 GMT -5
Aye. I think it would be a matter of average sales per game in series, rather than accumulated sales. So ranking tiers would be more a matter of the selling power of a franchise rather than how much it's managed to make over the years - especially since so many of them were started at different times.
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Post by Fryguy64 on Jul 5, 2007 16:50:37 GMT -5
But again, would you consider Pokemon Red AND Green/Blue to be two separate games or one single game? And if so, what of Pokemon Blue (JP) and Yellow?
Haha, not so simple now, is it!!
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Post by Smashchu on Jul 5, 2007 21:29:55 GMT -5
I think, in terms of overall sales, they usually clump both together.
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Post by nocturnal YL on Jul 9, 2007 9:52:17 GMT -5
This is actually something I wanted to know for long...
Pokémon Red and Green, which sold better? XD
And Blue (JP) and Yellow should be different games. They're not simultaneous release and there are more differences than the one Red/Green did. And, no Pikachu following you in Blue.
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Post by Smashchu on Jul 9, 2007 11:47:41 GMT -5
In terms of sales I do beleive games like Yellow are not clumped into the sales of the other two versions(probobly as they are released at different times).
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Post by TV Eye on Jul 16, 2007 21:40:10 GMT -5
Where's Star Fox? I think those games are fun and get good reviews, I would say second teir. And Animal Crossing is another choice...but...how many have there really been, like three? would that qualify?
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Post by Smashchu on Jul 19, 2007 13:29:17 GMT -5
Where's Star Fox? I think those games are fun and get good reviews, I would say second teir. And Animal Crossing is another choice...but...how many have there really been, like three? would that qualify? Starfox is low 2nd teir I based it off of sales and popularity. But, of course, it's a lot harder to messsure popularity.
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