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Post by Blueberry_pie on Jun 7, 2006 10:27:40 GMT -5
Those characters would be cool... but I fail to see how exactly Ridley would work as a Smash Bros. fighter.
Yeah, I'll wait for an official announcement too.
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Post by Flip on Jun 7, 2006 11:20:01 GMT -5
It's fake. It's been going around EVERYWHERE, but notice it's not been offiically announced. If Sakurai said it on the radio, he would've put it on his website for ALL to hear. Complete and utter bull.
FYI, it originated on a forum, without a source. Shows you how quickly rumors spread on the internet.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on Jun 7, 2006 23:46:59 GMT -5
Yep, its fake. I also couldn't see Sakurai ditching the Ice Climbers (maybe theres a chance of ditching Mr G&W, but I'd say its fairly small), since they are original and one of his quotes from the Japanese site was "only asking for popular characters doesn't excite me" or something.
That being said, Young Link definately should be replaced with Cel Link, though, and the other two would be great additions.
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Post by wanderingshadow on Jun 8, 2006 7:18:51 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so sure. 1up.com and WiiFanboy are both reporting this as fact. Both of them are reliable sources of information.
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Post by amazingeee on Jun 8, 2006 15:19:50 GMT -5
Its bull. Wait for official word from Sakurai or Nintendo. Even the king of all sources, IGN, basically confirmed that Pit would be a playable fighter previous to the release of Melee. Rumors, rumors, rumors.
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Post by wanderingshadow on Jun 8, 2006 15:53:34 GMT -5
Since when is IGN the king of all sources? I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say "You can't spell ignorance without IGN."
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Post by Andronicus on Jun 8, 2006 18:19:40 GMT -5
It's so fashionable these days to bag out IGN - I don't actually see anything wrong with the site and I get a lot of my video game information from them.
Yet, for some reason, people all over the Internet go on and on about how bad the site is.
Seems unecessary...
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Post by Wildcat on Jun 8, 2006 19:54:49 GMT -5
Aye, 1up has a story. BUT, if it were true, Nintendo would have something. Gamespot and IGN would have something. The Nintendo.com forums would have something more concrete than what's there. It's still rumor. If the Japanese Smash Bros. site doesn't have it, then I doubt it. Sakurai has been commenting on SSBB on a regular enough basis that IGN (who is all over the game, considering how they are ripping off the Smash Bros. main page) would have somehting about it. Time will tell...
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Post by Smashchu on Jun 8, 2006 21:38:48 GMT -5
Well it is false. And thats a fact.
The guy who made it aid it was a lie.
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Post by Wildcat on Jun 8, 2006 22:29:59 GMT -5
I figured so. 1up ought to wait until rumors are confirmed first before posting an official news story (which is why I'm sure IGN and Gamespot didn't post anything).
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Post by Smashchu on Jun 11, 2006 12:23:14 GMT -5
Polls over. here's the results
Koopa Troopa (Super Mario Bros. - 1985)
Hammer Bros. (Super Mario Bros. - 1985)
Toad (Super Mario Bros. 2 - 1988)
Petey Piranha (Super Mario Sunshine - 2002)
Vivian (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door - 2005)
"Cel-Shaded" Link (The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 2002)
Tetra (The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 2002)
Link's Uncle (The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - 1991)
Ganon/Ganondorf (The Legend of Zelda/The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 1986/1998)
Bow Wow the Chain Chomp (The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX - 1998)
Ridley (Metroid - 1986)
Sylux (Metroid Prime: Hunters - 2006)
Noxus (Metroid Prime: Hunters - 2006)
Weavel (Metroid Prime: Hunters - 2006)
Peppy Hare (Star Fox - 1993)
Slippy Toad (Star Fox - 1993)
Krystal (Star Fox Adventures - 2002)
Wolf O'Donnell (Star Fox 64 - 1997)
Diddy Kong (solo) (Donkey Kong Country - 1994)
Diddy Kong & Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong Country/Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy Kong's Quest - 1994/1995)
King K. Rool (Donkey Kong Country - 1994)
Ninten (Mother - 1989)
Paula (Mother 2 [EarthBound in the U.S.] - 1994 [1995])
Jeff (Mother 2 [EarthBound in the U.S.] - 1994 [1995])
Poo (Mother 2 [EarthBound in the U.S.] - 1994 [1995])
Claus (Mother 3 - 2006)
Lucas (Mother 3 - 2006)
Princess Kumatora (Mother 3 - 2006)
King Dedede (Kirby's Dreamland - 1992)
Lololo & Lalala (Kirby's Dreamland - 1992)
Marx (Kirby Super Star - 1996)
Jeigan (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Oguma (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Nabarl (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Sheeda (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Maji (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Saji (Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Tsurugi - 1990)
Sigurd (Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu - 1996)
Ike (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 2005)
Soren (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 2005)
Mia (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 2005)
The Black Knight (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 2005)
Gardevoir (Pokémon Ruby & Pokémon Sapphire - 2003)
Steven Stone (Pokémon Ruby & Pokémon Sapphire - 2003)
Black Shadow (F-Zero X - 1998)
Palutena (Kid Icarus - 1986)
Medusa (Kid Icarus - 1986)
Eggplant Wizard (Kid Icarus - 1986)
Isaac (Golden Sun - 2001)
Felix (Golden Sun - 2001)
Little Mac (Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream - 1990)
Dragon Chan (Super Punch-Out!! - 1994)
Banker (Mario Paint - 1992)
Ray 01 (Custom Robo - 2004)
Captain Olimar (Pikmin - 2001)
Human Main Character (Animal Forest - 2001)
Tom Nook (Animal Forest - 2001)
Chibi-Robo (Chibi-Robo! - 2005)
Harry the Robot (Teleroboxer - 1995)
Doctor Wright (SimCity - 1991)**
Muddy (Mole Mania - 1996)
The Blue Virus (Dr. Mario - 1990)
Urban Fighters (Urban Champion - 1984)
Lip (Panel de Pon - 1995)
Furil (Nintendo Puzzle Collection: Panel de Pon - 2003)
Takamaru (Nazo no Murasamejou - 1986)
Demiru (Tomato Adventure - 2002)
Tomato Robot (Tomato Adventure - 2002)
Sukapon (Joy Mech Fight - 1993)
Donbe (Shin Oni ga Shima - 1987)
Ayumi Tachibana (Famicom Tantei Club Part II: Ushiro ni Tatsu Shoujo - 1989)*
Jill (Screw Breaker [Drill Dozer in the U.S.] - 2005 [2006])
Ippongi Ryuta of Cheer Squad (Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan - 2005)
Hero/Heroine (Magical Vacation - 2001)
Professor Kawashima (Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day - 2006)
Master Hand (Super Smash Bros. - 1999)
Crazy Hand (Super Smash Bros. Melee - 2001)
#166 Golden Sun characters and/or Advance Wars infantrymen
#218 Famicom Tantei Club characters
Third Party Suggestions
Mega Man (Capcom) (Mega Man - 1987)
G-Red (Capcom) (Gotcha Force - 2003)
Simon Belmont (Konami) (Castlevania - 1986)
Power Pro-Kun (Konami) (Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu '94 - 1994)
Lupus (Rare) (Jet Force Gemini - 1999)
Geno (Square Enix, Inc.) (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars - 1996)
Mallow (Square Enix, Inc.) (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars - 1996)
Sora (Disney/Square Enix, Inc.) (Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories - 2004)
Magnus Gallant (Quest/Nintendo) (Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber - 2000)
Princess Katia (From Software) (Lost Kingdoms - 2002)
Kalas (tri-Crescendo/Monolith Soft) (Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean - 2003)
Thomas the Kung-Fu Master (Irem) (Spartan X [Kung-Fu in the U.S.] - 1985)
We wont get many updatess now. We're in for the long haul now.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on Jun 11, 2006 21:09:34 GMT -5
You know, if that was the final list I'd be very happy. Sure, theres some dodgy characters, and way too much from certain franchises / games, but theres a real good character mix and lots of obscure / one-off characters. Which is good.
Oh, and Link's Uncle vs. Blue Virus. vs. Bow Wow the Chain Chomp vs. Steven Stone would be awesome.
So would be hearing "HUMAN MAIN CHARACTER!" and the audience support for him/her.
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Post by amazingeee on Jun 11, 2006 22:37:34 GMT -5
You know, if that was the final list I'd be very happy. Sure, theres some dodgy characters, and way too much from certain franchises / games, but theres a real good character mix and lots of obscure / one-off characters. Which is good. Now the trick is getting that same variety and mix with 35 or-so characters.  |
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on Jun 12, 2006 2:12:42 GMT -5
Exactly. For curiosity's sake, I chucked the list in Excel and hid 3 out of every 4 characters (left the first - so 1,5,9, etc) and I got a quite nice list, in terms of the ratio of characters from certain games, of 23 characters. Apart from the fact I got 3 FE characters, the rest were all in a pretty good ratio.
What does that tell us? Not much, except that if they added about a quarter of the characters from that list, they could still maintain a good balance. But on the other hand, they could just take the top 23 on that list, and give us 5 Mario characters, 5 Zelda ones, 4 Metroid ones, 4 Starfox ones, 3 DK ones, and 2 Mother ones. Which would be, you know, not good.
I have plenty of faith in Sakurai, though.
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Post by Fryguy64 on Jun 12, 2006 3:52:43 GMT -5
His repeated comments regarding not wanting to just focus on popular characters makes me warm and tingly inside.
Now that Pit and Wario are in there, my next goal is to see Takamaru and Sukapon in there... but they probably won't show up until Super Smash Bros. Bludgeon on the Nintendo WooT in 2012.
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