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Post by nocturnal YL on Jul 19, 2007 16:06:27 GMT -5
EDIT Sorry YoungLink (YL)! Did not mean to post the smae information but your post just came a few minutes before mine. No worries. This happened to me many times. However, FSs are a 1 time only thing, Okay, I think this has been GROSSLY misinterpreted. Yes, Sakurai says the move can only be used once. But I don't think he means once per round, or even one per life. Cause then what happens when you've used your Final Smash and a Smash Ball appears on stage again. Does it just go through you? What happens if every player has used a Final Smash and a Smash Ball shows up? Does it just float around the stage, useless? I think what Sakurai was trying to say is that you can only use the attack once each time you obtain the Smash Ball, so novice players wouldn't think that you're super powered for the rest of the match. You get the Smash Ball, you can use your Final Smash once, and then you have to get another Smash Ball if you want to use your Final Smash again. It doesn't really make sense if you can only use a Final Smash once per match. Because, for one thing, that would mean that ZSS doesn't have a Final Smash. And that can't be right. But of course, like a lot of these updates, the wording is too vague for anyone to be sure one way or another. Damn you Sakurai! This is just what I wanted to explain. Thanks a bunch! Actually the Zero Suit is pretty conservative compared to PeachIn fact The Zero Suit is the least exposed Suitless Samus has ever been. And I don't recall Zelda ever being sexed up. Hey... Don't just go with exceptions like Strikers! (checks spellings... OK, it's not misspelled "strokers" (referring to an old funny mistake I made on NinDB)) And it's not that Nintendo tends to avoid these. Just look at some other games! (Nintendo don't do these much, but developers like HAL and intSys had been at it. They're evil I tell ya! Expecially IS... they're obessed with complex relationships, more-than-two-people relations, insect and the like! Look at FE4 alone and you'll see!) Sakurai is being VERY conservative I'd say. And while Zelda had not been in this way, other Zelda characters had been. This role is not for Zelda, you know. |
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Post by Boo Destroyer on Jul 19, 2007 16:10:50 GMT -5
Another character filed away, hooo!
Next rich bits I'd like to see:
Meta Knight
Peach
Yoshi
Captain Falcon
Another Game Mode
Hey, it seems like there's one character profile per week.
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Post by Flip on Jul 19, 2007 19:40:41 GMT -5
Haha, now you guys make me sound like a pansy >.<
My point wasn't that "omg zlol samus is a hot chick," it was that they are really shameless about showing off the skintight uniform. I know it's from the 'troid games, and I remember Metroid II's risque underwear ending, but it just seems so odd for a big budget game like this coming from Nintendo to be so, well, brash about it. Not that I'm offended, but it's just a good example that even Nintendo can't escape the wrath of fan service. Nobody's perfect, I guess :/
Anycrap, tomorrow's gonna be a lame-o item. If not that, Samus or Zamus's specials. Regardless, Zamus I am 100% positive is a full fledged character, and will be swappable with A at battle start a la Sheik. There is no way they would go through the trouble and not let her be a full character.
EDIT: They even list Zamus and Samus as two separate characters on the site, just like Sakurai did with Sheik and Zelda for Melee. That's enough to convince me.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on Jul 19, 2007 21:04:46 GMT -5
However, FSs are a 1 time only thing, Okay, I think this has been GROSSLY misinterpreted. Yes, Sakurai says the move can only be used once. But I don't think he means once per round, or even one per life. Cause then what happens when you've used your Final Smash and a Smash Ball appears on stage again. Does it just go through you? What happens if every player has used a Final Smash and a Smash Ball shows up? Does it just float around the stage, useless? I think what Sakurai was trying to say is that you can only use the attack once each time you obtain the Smash Ball, so novice players wouldn't think that you're super powered for the rest of the match. You get the Smash Ball, you can use your Final Smash once, and then you have to get another Smash Ball if you want to use your Final Smash again. It doesn't really make sense if you can only use a Final Smash once per match. Because, for one thing, that would mean that ZSS doesn't have a Final Smash. And that can't be right. But of course, like a lot of these updates, the wording is too vague for anyone to be sure one way or another. Damn you Sakurai! See, I view it completely differently - its not 'one per character' or whatever, its one per match. Basically, at some point during the match (I was initially thinking towards the end, though the existence of ZSS makes this less likely, as it reduces the time for ZSS to be around), a smash ball appears, and you all get your ass back to Eurasia over there, because its the only time you can get one. And ZSS can still have a final smash if she herself is also selectable, thats what I'm saying. You can pick either, then if you final smash, you become the other. I'm basically just making stuff up, but thats my theory ayway. |
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Post by thores on Jul 19, 2007 21:43:04 GMT -5
Okay, I think this has been GROSSLY misinterpreted. Yes, Sakurai says the move can only be used once. But I don't think he means once per round, or even one per life. Cause then what happens when you've used your Final Smash and a Smash Ball appears on stage again. Does it just go through you? What happens if every player has used a Final Smash and a Smash Ball shows up? Does it just float around the stage, useless? I think what Sakurai was trying to say is that you can only use the attack once each time you obtain the Smash Ball, so novice players wouldn't think that you're super powered for the rest of the match. You get the Smash Ball, you can use your Final Smash once, and then you have to get another Smash Ball if you want to use your Final Smash again. It doesn't really make sense if you can only use a Final Smash once per match. Because, for one thing, that would mean that ZSS doesn't have a Final Smash. And that can't be right. But of course, like a lot of these updates, the wording is too vague for anyone to be sure one way or another. Damn you Sakurai! See, I view it completely differently - its not 'one per character' or whatever, its one per match. Basically, at some point during the match (I was initially thinking towards the end, though the existence of ZSS makes this less likely, as it reduces the time for ZSS to be around), a smash ball appears, and you all get your ass back to Eurasia over there, because its the only time you can get one. And ZSS can still have a final smash if she herself is also selectable, thats what I'm saying. You can pick either, then if you final smash, you become the other. I'm basically just making stuff up, but thats my theory ayway. Nah, this can't be it. Smash Balls are items, just like any other item, so their availability and frequency has to be able to be chosen via Item Switch, and just like Hammers they can show up more than once per match. If this was not the case, then Smash Balls would be updated as a game mechanic, and not an item. Plus, like you said, if it only showed up once during the end of the match, ZSS wouldn't get much screen time. Also, what about Stock Matches? Finally, if Smash Balls (and Final Smashes) were such a rarity, it would take people forever to master them, and that doesn't seem like it goes with Sakurai's "easy to access" approach towards this game. |
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Post by Blueberry_pie on Jul 20, 2007 0:36:32 GMT -5
Here's something interesting I read on another forum yesterday... SSB had a stage based on Super Mario Bros., and SSBM had one too as well as one based on Super Mario Bros. 2. Will we get a Super Mario Bros. 3 stage in SSBB? And about the Zero Suit Samus' boobies... you should be thankful the game doesn't have a physics engine for them, like with the Dead or Alive games.  (at least, I don't think so... I'll have to take another look at the trailers and do some, uh, close inspection) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2007 10:27:34 GMT -5
Another character filed away, hooo! Next rich bits I'd like to see: Meta Knight Peach Yoshi Captain Falcon Another Game Mode Hey, it seems like there's one character profile per week. I made the Character-Per-Week call two weeks ago XD so far it's held up. I think it'll keep going until Sakurai's confirmed the entire starting roster, and then we'll get more updates based on moves and such. And you did get your wish about a new game mode. |
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Post by Smashchu on Jul 20, 2007 21:31:39 GMT -5
And about the Zero Suit Samus' boobies... you should be thankful the game doesn't have a physics engine for them, like with the Dead or Alive games. (at least, I don't think so... I'll have to take another look at the trailers and do some, uh, close inspection) Her breast don't have motion, but the DoA physics are ezxaggerated. You find me an instant when they will jiggle for 20seconds or more like they do on Extream Beach 2. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2007 10:44:15 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with a strong female character that has sex appeal. Keep in mind, Samus never usually exposes any more skin than what ZSS has now; I think Zero Mission or Fusion let you see her midriff if you got a high enough completion rating in a fast enough time, but even then what she did wear was pretty generous. It's not like she had the Tira-from-Soul-Calibur-3 top, with her boobs all hanging out from the bottom, or was wearing pants so low that you had to wonder how they stayed on.
The only times when Samus has been truly scantily clad were back in the days of bad graphics. And even then it's not like she ran around like that (unless you input certain codes). She spends most of her games wearing that big, bulky power suit that doesn't actually yield her gender. That's not too bad, really.
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