Another look at the Smash Bros. Poll

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Ba-da bing, ba-da boom! Right?

I have no clue if you guys have seen this version of it yet, but this it it. The holy grail of Smash Brothers-dom. The original poll Sakurai took directly after Smash Bros 64. This is the top 20 characters wanted for the sequel game (technically 19 because two tied for #6 and 3 for #12), which some of you may have memorized.

Playable characters for Melee are in Blue. New PCs for Brawl are in Blue and Bolded. Past and new Items, Trophies, etc. are in Green. Characters who are... jokes or impossible are crossed out. All the rest are nice and Red. Enjoy.

• Bowser
  
• Peach
  
• Wario
  
• King Dedede
  
• Ganon/dorf
  
• James Bond ;p

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[/li][li]Mewtwo
[/li][li]Banjo-Kazooie[/s]
[/li][li]Toad
[/li][li]Mew
[/li][li]Marth
[/li][li]Mr. Saturn
[/li][li]Ash/Red
[/li][li]Any Fire Emblem Character
[/li][li]Gooey
[/li][li]Diddy Kong
[/li][li]Sukapon
[/li][li]Any Other Pokemon
[/li][li]Meta Knight
[/li][li]Lugia
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In other words? If Sukapon and King Dedede are not in this game in some form (and hopefully PLAYABLE), Sakurai is breaking a promise.

[Arcadenik]

I highly doubt Mew, Mr. Saturn, Gooey, and Lugia will be playable.

Mew and Lugia remain in Pokeballs. Mr. Saturn remains as an item. Gooey can be an AT.

[NinjaRygar]

It's weird... Zelda/sheik isn't on that list at all! I really have no doubts about King DeDeDe, but Sukapon might be another story. I wouldn't mind either of them... I imagine both would be unlockable.

[Johans Nidorino]

Yeah, Gooey can act somewhat like Ditto was intended to act in SSBM. In not many places I have seen anybody who shares this idea with me, but what if Kirby can somehow, during a battle, summon Gooey and form a tag team?

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arcadenik said:

I highly doubt Mew, Mr. Saturn, Gooey, and Lugia will be playable.

Mew and Lugia remain in Pokeballs. Mr. Saturn remains as an item. Gooey can be an AT.

...You missed the point. Those characters ALL appear in Melee in some form. We all KNOW they won't be playable. But Dedede and Sukapon barely got one trophy and a slight stage cameo between the two of them. Where's their time to shine?

On the Brawl field. I'm convinced. ONLY characters from there not to appear in any form.

[Boo Destroyer]

Don't forget that Dedede was actually planned to be in SSB for the N64. But why he didn't make it into Melee is beyond me.

I also heard that Sakurai is more than ready to use more of his creations in Brawl, so Dedede may come eventually.

[TV Eye]

I never noticed this! James Bond...I remember asking a kid who his favorite video game character was and he said "James Bond."

I felt like punching him in the face. But instead, I let him borrow some of my Bond movies. ;D

[Arcadenik]

MARIO BROS.
Bowser (169) - Melee/Brawl fighter
Peach (66) - Melee/Brawl fighter
Wario (65) - Melee trophy & Brawl fighter
Toad (27) - Melee trophy & Peach's standard special in Melee/Brawl
Koopa Troopa (9) - Adventure Mode enemy
Kamek (8) - none
Goomba (7) - Adventure Mode enemy
Mallow (5) - none
Geno (5) - none
Baby Mario (3) - Melee trophy

POKEMON
Mewtwo (35) - Melee fighter
Mew (24) - Melee Pokeball
Red (18) - Brawl fighter
Misc. Pokemon (12) - I will assume they are random Melee trophies
Lugia (11) - Melee Pokeball
Meowth (8) - Melee trophy
Raichu (7) - none
Marill (5) - Melee Pokeball
Bulbasaur (5) - Melee trophy & Ivysaur is Brawl fighter & Venusaur is Melee Pokeball
Togepi (5) - Melee Pokeball

LEGEND OF ZELDA
Ganondorf (36) - Melee fighter
Young Link (8) - Melee fighter
Zelda (8) - Melee/Brawl fighter
Sheik (8) - Melee fighter
Shadow Link (2) - Event Match unplayable fighter

KIRBY SUPER STAR
King Dedede (46) - Melee trophy
Gooey (17) - Melee trophy
Meta Knight (11) - Melee trophy & Brawl fighter
Misc. Kirby Companion (10) - Knuckle Joe is an Assist Trophy in Brawl
Waddle Dee (3) - Melee trophy

MOTHER
Mr. Saturn (18) - Melee item & Melee trophy
Poo (6) - Melee trophy
Other Good Guys from Mother 2 (4) - none
Paula (4) - Melee trophy
Starman (3) - Melee trophy
Jeff (3) - Melee trophy

STAR FOX
Falco (7) - Melee fighter
Slippy (5) - Melee trophy
Wolf (4) - shown only in Melee intro
Peppy (2) - Melee trophy

FIRE EMBLEM
Marth (21) - Melee fighter
Misc. Characters from Fire Emblem (18) - none
Oguma (8) - none
Serris (4) - none
Sigurd (2) - none
Leaf (2) - I am not sure but is he one of Roy's alternate colors?

RARE
007 James Bond (35) - none
Banjo & Kazooie (18) - none
Diddy Kong (15) - Brawl fighter
Blast Corps Robot (2) - none
006 (2) - none

OTHER NES/SNES CHARACTERS
Sukapon (15) - none
Lip (9) - her stick is an item in Melee/Brawl
Prince Richard (8) - none
Metroid (6) - Melee trophy
Foreman Spike (6) - none
Pit (5) - Melee trophy & Brawl fighter
Donbe or Hikari (5) - Melee trophy
Misc. Characters from The Marvelous Bunch (5) - none
Samurai Goroh (4) - Melee trophy & Brawl Assist
Popo & Nana (4) - Melee/Brawl fighters
Balloon Fighter (4) - Melee trophy

NON-NINTENDO
Chocobo (9) - none
Doraemon (7) - none
Bomberman (5) - none
Crash Bandicoot (4) - none
Sonic (3) - none
Mega Man (3) - none

This list is why I believe the following characters have good chances of being playable in Brawl, even if some of them seem unlikely:
Toad
Meowth
King Dedede
Sukapon
Lip

[Arcadenik]

boodestroyer said:

Don't forget that Dedede was actually planned to be in SSB for the N64. But why he didn't make it into Melee is beyond me.

I also heard that Sakurai is more than ready to use more of his creations in Brawl, so Dedede may come eventually.

This is the first time I have heard this.. King Dedede was planned to be in SSB64? I also heard that Pit was planned to be in SSB64, too...

[Smashchu]

I always hope Falco could saty becuase he was the most popular Starfox character, which is the reason he got in. I too, would be X( if he was out.

But it's nice too know. Sukapon...................I don't see him as much. But, I sure wont be complaining if he's in. Be a really fun fighter.

Also BooDestroyer, Dedede didn't get in due to space/Sakurai useing othercharacters then his own.

[Flip]

Sakurai preferred to please others than himself (how noble!), so he left Dedede and Meta Knight out of the original and Melee (but still gave them trophies). Pit was among a few others, from what I've read, that included Peach, Bowser, and some FE character that Sakurai would've liked in SSB64, but could not put in due to constraints.

Sadly, none of this can be 100% confirmed unless we ourselves were Sakurai or actually, y'know, talked to him.

But regardless, the polls are becoming more and more true each day. Eerie, huh?

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boodestroyer said:

Don't forget that Dedede was actually planned to be in SSB for the N64. But why he didn't make it into Melee is beyond me.

HEY HEY HEY HEY. Stop that right there! The only characters absolutely planned for SSB that didn't make it in were Bowser and Peach. Everything else is hearsay. No rumor-milling allowed!

[Game Guru]

Dedede and Sukapon are so going to be fighters... Just that they will be secret because Meta Knight's already with Kirby, and Sukapon comes from a Japan-only game.

[parrothead]

Here are the characters mentioned more than once in Sakurai's SSBB poll, with the number of times in bolded parenthesis:

King Dedede (Kirby series) (5)
Diddy Kong (Donkey Kong Country series) (4)
Geno (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars) (4)
Ike (Fire Emblem 9: Path of Radiance) (4)
Ridley (Metroid series) (4)
Captain Olimar & Pikmin (Pikmin series) (3)
Krystal (Star Fox series) (3)
Takamaru (Mystery of Murasame Castle) (3)
Wind Waker version of Young Link (The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker) (3)
Protagonist (Animal Crossing/Animal Forest series) (2)
Claus (MOTHER 3/GBA EarthBound) (2)
DeMille (Tomato Adventure) (2)
Isaac (Golden Sun series) (2)
Jeff (MOTHER 2/SNES EarthBound) (2)
Professor Kawasima (Brain Age series) (2)
King K.Rool (Donkey Kong Country series) (2)
Lip (Super Famicom version of Panel de Pon) (2)
Lucas (MOTHER 3/GBA EarthBound) (2)
Mega Man (Mega Man Classic series) (2)
Oguma (Fire Emblem 1: Dark Dragon and Sword of Light and Fire Emblem 3: Mystery of the Emblem) (2)
Ouendan (Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan series) (2)
Skapon (Joy Mech Fight) ((2)

And here are all the characters mentioned in Sakurai's SSBB poll, along with the ones mentioned more than once at the bottom.

[Arcadenik]

I thought all the Zelda characters each got one vote in the Brawl poll?

I also thought that Tom Nook got 3 votes while the human main character only got one vote?

I also thought that Claus and Krystal got 4 votes?

I really think we need to see the Brawl poll results with numbers, not just characters' names.