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Post by Savage Adam on Dec 30, 2007 20:22:32 GMT -5
On the Dojo copy rights list, it lists Ape inc. The only game that Ape ever made was Mother 2/Earthbound. There is no other character from Mother 2 that would get in before Ness.
There is still the possiblity of him being an AT. But I have evidence that this is not the case. The team that made Sin and Punishment is called Treasure Co. Ltd. They, among other teams who made games whos characters are Ats, are not listed in the copy right list. On top of that, next to the list it clearly states that the rights are for characters only.
Just something for you guys to think about.
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Post by Snuka7 on Dec 30, 2007 20:26:31 GMT -5
I really want Ness playable too...but I don't think Mother will get two representives. And if they do...wouldn't they get somebody from the newer mother games(mother 3). Like Claus or Pokey(Porkey).
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Post by Savage Adam on Dec 30, 2007 20:28:54 GMT -5
Thats what I would have thought, but the evidence does make it seem like Ness will be back.
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Post by Snuka7 on Dec 30, 2007 20:37:08 GMT -5
Thats what I would have thought, but the evidence does make it seem like Ness will be back. Yeh, your propley right.  I hope Ness is back...NESS FOR BRAWL!  |
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Post by Da Robot on Dec 30, 2007 21:20:01 GMT -5
Interesting, it does seem to be a link. The only Earthbound mention on the site is when it talks about Ness in the Lucas character descriptions.
I wonder if the devolted fans at Starmen.net know about this, shouldn't they have picked up on this months ago?
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Post by Captain Walrus on Dec 30, 2007 21:57:44 GMT -5
Mr. Saturn is APE Inc.
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Post by Savage Adam on Dec 30, 2007 22:07:34 GMT -5
Yes, but as I said, the copyrights are for characters only.
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Post by TV Eye on Dec 30, 2007 22:11:33 GMT -5
Where are the copyrights listed on the site? The bottom? I need to check and see all the companies.
Okay, all companies listed are
Nintendo
HAL Laboratory
Pokemon
Creatures Inc
GAME FREAK Inc
SHIGESATO ITOI
APE Inc
INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS
Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd
SEGA
It also specifically says CHARACTERS right before it lists the copyright info. I think SA might've come up with something...
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Post by The Qu on Dec 30, 2007 23:23:48 GMT -5
It should be noted Sega wasn't added until Sonic was revealed.
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Post by Flip on Dec 31, 2007 0:17:08 GMT -5
Well, Ness becoming an AT I thought was kinda obvious... Kickass find, though. Basically confirms it |
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on Dec 31, 2007 3:00:57 GMT -5
Yes, but as I said, the copyrights are for characters only. An assist trophy is still a character. Doesn't explain why Treasure isn't on there, but yeah. |
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Post by Game Guru on Dec 31, 2007 4:11:55 GMT -5
A few helpful facts: Shigesato Itoi is an actual guy! He's an essayist who just happened to write the plot for the Mother games, not a company. Oh and Creatures Inc is actually a renamed APE Inc!
Either way, I'd also point out to those who say Assist Trophies count to the Character copyright... Stafy is owned in part by TOSE and TOSE isn't listed in the copyright... Also, Treasure doesn't own any copyright on Sin & Punishment... It's only copyrighted by Nintendo. I know, I OWN the game.
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Post by Flip on Dec 31, 2007 11:32:30 GMT -5
A few helpful facts: Shigesato Itoi is an actual guy! He's an essayist who just happened to write the plot for the Mother games, not a company. Oh and Creatures Inc is actually a renamed APE Inc! Either way, I'd also point out to those who say Assist Trophies count to the Character copyright... Stafy is owned in part by TOSE and TOSE isn't listed in the copyright... Also, Treasure doesn't own any copyright on Sin & Punishment... It's only copyrighted by Nintendo. I know, I OWN the game. Treasure has a knack not only for producing fantastic games w/o sequels, but they also give whatever rights to the game they had to the publisher. Sega technically owns the rights to Gunstar Heroes and Dynamite Headdy while Nintendo gets Sin and Punishment and Wario World (IIRC). I guess by that logic, it explains why Pulseman didn't become a Nintendo property when they pretty much absorbed Game Freak. Or why Mischief Makers disappeared into the abyss (it had a few different publishers). And Ape became Creatures, but they still list it as Ape. Maybe the Mother 2 stuff is only copyrighted under Ape and didn't get transferred up to Creatures? |
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Post by Flint on Dec 31, 2007 12:15:42 GMT -5
Ape also did MOTHER/Earthbound O (they appear in the ending credits), I'm not sure if they got somehow credited for MOTHER 3 as I haven´t finished the game (yes I as still waiting for the fan translation)
SPOILER
(also dont forget certain character that apears in the background from New Pork city, he is from MOTHER 2)
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Post by Savage Adam on Dec 31, 2007 12:20:01 GMT -5
Ape also did MOTHER/Earthbound O (they appear in the ending credits), I'm not sure if they got somehow credited for MOTHER 3 as I haven´t finished the game (yes I as still waiting for the fan translation) SPOILER (also dont forget certain character that apears in the background from New Pork city, he is from MOTHER 2) I already researched it. Ape had nothing to do with M3, so that rules that out. And we have already concluded that the copyrights are for playable characters only. |
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I hope Ness is back...NESS FOR BRAWL! 
