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Post by TV Eye on Sept 8, 2008 15:57:48 GMT -5
Fry, if you still need help with Trophy descriptions, try MarioWiki. They have lots of definitions. But then the debut game in Melee would be false as well. As far as I know, the Toads are known as Kinopio in Japanese from the beginning (correct me if I'm wrong), while in English, the name Toad wasn't used until Super Mario Bros. 2 (before that, they were called "Mushroom Retainers"). We don't know if the Toad/Kinopio was already among the mushroom fellows you had to save in SMB. Well, Toad is named after a toadstool, which is a mushroom. |
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Post by Fryguy64 on Sept 8, 2008 16:17:25 GMT -5
Thanks for looking into that Meowth's Party thing, The Qu. The Meowth's Party was one of the first Gamecube tech demos, shown at the "Dolphin's" software unveiling. I also know the Meowth's Party ending song wasn't Japan-only. A lot of what you mention aren't really errors, but let's tackle them one by one... Yoshi's first game was SMW not YS.Yoshi's Safari was an odd choice. It's not even the first Yoshi-branded game (Yoshi and Yoshi's Cookie came before it). Definitely worth mentioning. Toad wasn't Toad in SMB.Yes he was, but the US made a mess of the name. Kinopio has always been Kinopio, but Toad didn't get his name until 1988. Toad still debuted in Super Mario Bros., regardless of whether you want to argue about semantics. Since when is Striker Daisy in SML?Daisy was in Super Mario Land. Is there a problem mentioning Daisy's debut? Giant Goombas was first featured in SMB3I think that's worth mentioning. Bob-Omb was first featured in SMB2Ah, only in America. SMB3 came out before SMUSA (although Dokidoki Panic came first). But also... in Japan the walking bombs in SMUSA and SMB3 have different names and are considered different enemies - Bob (DDP/SMUSA) and Bomb Soldier (SMB3 onwards). Again... hooray for US localization  Soccer Ball trophy is LOLHilarious!  |
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Post by Manspeed on Sept 8, 2008 17:25:04 GMT -5
So a Bob is a Bob-Omb with arms?  |
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Post by TV Eye on Sept 8, 2008 17:37:45 GMT -5
Hey Fry, on your description for Kanden, it says "Kanden is the result of a failed lab experiment meant to create invisible soldiers."
Shouldn't it say Invincible? I don't know. I just remember Trace was Invisible, not Kanden.
I also notice you list "Cook Kirby" as first appearing in Kirby SuperStar, shouldn't you also note that Zelda Light Arrow appeared in the last battle in Twilight Princess, or that the Beast Ganon featured was in TP as well?
About Scarfies, I vaguely remember them attacking when you got close in Kirby SuperStar. You say they don't. I'll look into this.
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Post by Fryguy64 on Sept 8, 2008 17:56:29 GMT -5
So a Bob is a Bob-Omb with arms? Well no. A Bob-omb is a Bob without arms. And a key in its back. Bob came first in Dokidoki Panic, remember? But as a member of the Mario series, Super Mario Bros. 3 was released in Japan before the US release of Super Mario Bros. 2. Confused? Yup! Hey Fry, on your description for Kanden, it says "Kanden is the result of a failed lab experiment meant to create invisible soldiers." Shouldn't it say Invincible? I don't know. I just remember Trace was Invisible, not Kanden. This is exactly why I need someone to check the entries. My source isn't my own game - as it's PAL. I had to pinch the trophy descriptions from other sources. So there's a chance some of them are wrong. If you can check Brawl against my entry for Kanden, that'd be great!  I also notice you list "Cook Kirby" as first appearing in Kirby SuperStar, shouldn't you also note that Zelda Light Arrow appeared in the last battle in Twilight Princess, or that the Beast Ganon featured was in TP as well? Yep! Got a few more of those to add |
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Post by TV Eye on Sept 8, 2008 19:34:48 GMT -5
Also, for some reason, Shadow is listed as first appearing in Sonic Heroes, he actually first appeared in Sonic Adventure 2.
Baby Mario's trophy says "Although he lacks overalls" even though he's shown wearing them.
Paper Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Bowser are all listed as first appearing in Super Paper Mario. It should say Paper Mario.
And the Kanden as an invisible soldier thing was a Nintendo mess-up. It's supposed to say invincible.
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Post by Spud on Sept 8, 2008 20:11:13 GMT -5
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That's true of SF64, but is it also true of Assault? I don't recall. Will have to check (I've been looking for an excuse to play that again).[/quote]
I can second TEi's comment. Leon is Falco's Rival in Assault.
And and you get a cookie for not using the <table> tag.
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Post by Fryguy64 on Sept 9, 2008 3:34:13 GMT -5
Tables should be used for data tables. CSS should be used for layout. I know what I'm doing these days Thanks for your help everyone! I'll get a load of the edits done and update these this evening. |
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Post by Captain Walrus on Sept 9, 2008 5:27:09 GMT -5
Wow. Fry, this is very awesomely done and thorough. Great work!
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Post by Wildcat on Sept 9, 2008 9:49:45 GMT -5
Zelda first used the Light Arrow in Wind Waker against Ganondorf, if my memory's not mistaken.
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Post by Spud on Sept 9, 2008 10:11:58 GMT -5
The Super Smash Bros 64 part on The Mario Guide reads Super Mario Bros. (64)
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Post by Swedol on Sept 9, 2008 12:41:54 GMT -5
Was Falcon Flyer in F-Zero X?
Shadows first game was Sonic Adventure 2.
As for Melee the Motion Sensor Bomb was called Proximity Mine in Europe but used the U.S. design.
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Post by Fryguy64 on Sept 9, 2008 13:21:00 GMT -5
Was Falcon Flyer in F-Zero X? No. It only appeared in the comic in the F-Zero instruction manual. Its next appearance was in Melee. |
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Post by Dasher Misire on Sept 9, 2008 14:00:28 GMT -5
It's a very obscure cameo, and shouldn't really be in Smash over freaking everything else.
Zoras are written to appear first in OOT. But the Zoras were around since LoZ, just not as friendly allies. They were called Zolas but since l and r are interchangeable in Japan...
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Post by Fryguy64 on Sept 9, 2008 14:04:28 GMT -5
Zoras have been around since LoZ, sure... but the friendly alien-like Zoras have only been around since OoT. I believe one of the Oracles explained this. Nevertheless, probably worth mentioning |
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