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Post by Manspeed on Nov 7, 2008 19:33:25 GMT -5
As I've been doing this, I've been questioning whether the system I used is fair or not. I broke down the tiers based on what the highest valued bit of content each series managed to get, with Characters, Assists, Bosses, and Stages being the highest. Since all of the World Symbol series ended up having two or more of the above categories and there aren't any series whose highest valued category is Items, the second highest tier goes up to Assists, third is Songs, fourth is Trophies and the lowest is Stickers. I can tell you right now that all of the 5th Teir series aren't gonna get any higher than the 4th Teir ones, since most of them only have like 1 or 2 stickers tops.  You think maybe I should've given the Character, Boss, Assist, and Stage categories different point values? |
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Post by Fryguy64 on Nov 7, 2008 19:40:13 GMT -5
I would say having a playable character would have more value than having a sticker... but then if you're just tagging how many references each had in the game, then 1 point each also has its benefits.
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Post by Manspeed on Nov 7, 2008 19:46:54 GMT -5
Of course playable characters are more valuable than stickers. I said so in the original post. The reason I stuck with the different point values is because some franchises got a better treatment that others by default. I mean, wouldn't you agree that getting a playable character means you're considered far more important than getting bunch of stickers? The point values are based on signs of importance, basically. Guess I'll have to stick with what I have for now. I essentially just calmed my own worries.  |
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Post by Fryguy64 on Nov 7, 2008 19:55:05 GMT -5
No no, I know - was just pointing out the benefits of both methods  Your lists have shown some interesting points, although the scoring system isn't really based on anything other than an arbitrary points system you created. But they're not unreasonable. Whereas one point each would also produce an interesting list... especially if spread over all the games. |
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Post by Manspeed on Nov 7, 2008 23:02:15 GMT -5
OK, so I got off my butt and managed to pull out one more for the night.
Tier 3
The best these series got was at least one song on the soundtrack.
1080
Songs: 1
Stickers: 3
3D Hot Rally
Songs: 1
Stickers: 1
Balloon Fight
Songs: 1
Stickers: 2
Big Brain Academy
Songs: 1
Stickers: 2
Brain Age
Songs: 1
Chosoju Mecha MG
Songs: 1
Trophies: 4
Stickers: 4
Clu Clu Land
Songs: 1
Trophies: 1
DS Cooking Navi
Songs: 1
Stickers: 1
Nazo no Murasamejo
Songs: 1
Stickers: 1
Panel de Pon
Songs: 1
Trophies: 1
Stickers: 5
Shin Onigashima
Songs: 1
Stickers: 1
Tetris
Songs: 2
Wii (both the hardware and any games in the Wii [something] series)
Songs: 4
X
Songs: 1
Stickers: 1
Category Winners
Songs: Wii
Trophies: Chosoju Mecha MG
Stickers: Panel de Pon
Final Ranking
1- Chosoju Mecha MG- 15 points
2- Wii- 12
3- Panel de Pon- 10
4- 1080- 6
4- Tetris- 6
5- Balloon Fight- 5
5- Big Brain Academy- 5
6- 3D Hot Rally- 4
6- Clu Clu Land- 4
6- DS Cooking Navi- 4
6- Nazo no Murasamejo- 4
6- Shin Onigashima- 4
6- X- 4
7- Brain Age- 3
Comments
Not really much to say here other than the fact that the rankings would probably look quite a bit different if my point system were different. Maybe I'll go back and try Fry's suggestion once I've finished this in it's current form. Teir 4 comes up next time.
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Post by Manspeed on Nov 10, 2008 17:30:03 GMT -5
OK, I know this is a double post, but it's not my fault nobody wants to post here anymore. So here's the next update.
Tier 4
These series were lucky enough to at least get a collectible Trophy.
Chibi-Robo
Trophies: 2
Stickers: 6
Hotel Dusk
Trophies: 1
Stickers: 3
Magical Vacation
Trophies: 3
Stickers: 8
Ouendan
Trophies: 2
Stickers: 9
Soccer
Trophies: 1
Super Scope 6
Trophies: 1
Trace Memory
Trophies: 1
Stickers: 4
Category Winners
Trophies: Magical Vacation
Stickers: Ouendan
Final Rankings
1- Magical Vacation- 14 points
2- Ouendan- 13
3- Chibi-Robo- 10
4- Trace Memory- 6
5- Hotel Dusk- 5
6- Soccer- 2
6- Super Scope 6- 2
Comments
I'm actually a bit suprised that Magical Vacation managed to get three trophies, none of which were borrowed from an already existing game. For a game like Brawl, that's a bit of a record setter. Anyway, we're getting down the wire, and the last Tier is actually pretty stupid since it's mostly comprised of series that got one sticker and nothing else. I think I really am gonna re-do this using Fry's suggestion after it's finished.
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Post by Manspeed on Nov 10, 2008 17:42:23 GMT -5
I told you this part was stupid. It's only been about ten minutes since I posted the previous update, and here this one is.
Tier 5
All these games got were a few lousy stickers. That's why there's no Category Winners and I'm skipping right to the Final Ranking.
1- Digiluxe- 5 points
2- Sennen Kazoku- 4
2- Wave Race- 4
3- Card Hero- 3
4- Slide Adventure MAGKID- 2
4- Stunt Race FX- 2
5- Duck Hunt- 1
5- English Training- 1
5- For the Frog the Bell Tolls- 1
5- Ice Hockey- 1
5- Joy Mecha Fight- 1
5- Mach Rider- 1
5- Pilotwings- 1
5- Wild Gunman- 1
5- Yakuman- 1
Comments
I know I'm known for being a know-it-all when it comes to these things, but what the hell is Digiluxe and why did it get so many stickers? I looked around the main site and couldn't find it documented there, so what gives?
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Post by Manspeed on Nov 10, 2008 19:27:50 GMT -5
Three posts in a row! I'm on FIRE, babay!
Seriously, I've put together the Final Final Rankings list for all five Tiers, so here it is.
Final Final Rankings
1. Super Mario (438 points)
2. Pokemon (319 points)
3. Zelda (283 points)
4. Kirby (210 points)
5. Metroid (163 points)
6. Donkey Kong (154 points)
7. Star Fox (148 points)
8. Animal Crossing (126 points)
9. MOTHER (111 points)
10. F-Zero (103 points)
11. Fire Emblem (98 points)
12. Wario (94 points)
13. Pikmin (92 points)
14. Yoshi (65 points)
15. Kid Icarus (34 points)
16. Game & Watch (30 points)
17. Ice Climber (23 points)
18. Excitebike (17 points)
18. Legend of Stafy (17 points)
19. Custom Robo (16 points)
20. Chosoju Mecha MG (15 points
21. Magical Vacation (14 points)
22. ROB (13 points)
22. Wars (13 points)
22. Ouendan (13 points)
23. Electroplankton (12 points)
23. Wii (12 points)
24. Kururin (11 points)
24. Nintendogs (11 points)
25. Golden Sun (10 points)
25. Drill Dozer (10 points)
25. Panel de Pon (10 points)
25. Chibi-Robo (10 points)
26. Nintendo DS (8 points)
26. Devil World (8 points)
27. Band Bros. (7 points)
27. Sim City (7 points)
27. Punch-Out!! (7 points)
27. Sin and Punishment (7 points)
28. 1080 (6 points)
28. Tetris (6 points)
28. Trace Memory (6 points)
29. Balloon Fight (5 points)
29. Big Brain Academy (5 points)
29. Hotel Dusk (5 points)
29. Digiluxe (5 points)
30. 3D Hot Rally (4 points)
30. Clu Clu Land (4 points)
30. DS Cooking Navi (4 points)
30. Nazo no Murasamejo (4 points)
30. Shin Onigashima (4 points)
30. X (4 points)
30. Sennen Kazoku (4 points)
30. Wave Race (4 points)
31. Brain Age (3 points)
31. Card Hero (3 points)
32. Soccer (2 points)
32. Super Scope (2 points)
32. Slide Adventure MAGKID (2 points)
32. Stunt Race FX (2 points)
33. Duck Hunt (1 points)
33. English Training (1 points)
33. For the Frog the Bell Tolls (1 points)
33. Ice Hockey (1 points)
33. Joy Mecha Fight (1 points)
33. Mach Rider (1 points)
33. Pilotwings (1 points)
33. Wild Gunman (1 points)
33. Yakuman (1 points)
Final Final Comments
Well... I can't say I'm surprised now. Some of them ranked higher that I thought they would. Either way, I gotta get goin' on that re-do list so I can compare the results. Hope you all liked what I did so far.
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Post by Da Robot on Nov 10, 2008 19:33:01 GMT -5
CommentsI know I'm known for being a know-it-all when it comes to these things, but what the hell is Digiluxe and why did it get so many stickers? I looked around the main site and couldn't find it documented there, so what gives? was the english name (but only used in SSBB) to the Japanese only Bit Generations series for the GBA. The games were then rebranded with the new english name of Art Style when remakes/sequels of them were released on WiiWare and some more Art Style games will be heading to the DSi's DSiWare download service. |
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Post by BeamClaws on Nov 10, 2008 19:32:52 GMT -5
Wow, I'm surprised Pokemon didn't make it to 1st place!
I'm also surprised EarthBound's in the top 10!
Great job, let's hope this is a resource used all across the interwebs, and Fry puts it on his site (but not as dramatic). mayhaps you'll do this to the next smash bros?
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Post by Manspeed on Nov 10, 2008 20:10:27 GMT -5
Thanks for that, Robot. I also went back and changed the font size to normal. I decided I liked it better that way.
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Post by Manspeed on Nov 11, 2008 11:57:34 GMT -5
OK this mo'nin' (this mo'nin', this mo-mi-mo-mi-mo-mo'nin') I decided to rank the series based on the amount of references each got as opposed to the value of each specfic kind of reference, like Fry suggested. Let's see if there are any differences.
1. Super Mario (233 references)
2. Pokemon (170 references)
3. The Legend of Zelda (151 references)
4. Kirby (101 references)
5. Metroid (77 references)
6. Donkey Kong (76 references)
7. Star Fox (74 references)
8. Animal Crossing (69 references)
9. MOTHER (52 references)
10. Fire Emblem (49 references)
11. Pikmin (47 references)
12. F-Zero (46 references)
13. Wario (44 references)
14. Yoshi (37 references)
15. Game & Watch (16 references)
16. Kid Icarus (15 references)
17. Legend of Stafy (11 references)
17. Magical Vacation (11 references)
17. Ouendan (11 references)
18. Custom Robo (10 references)
19. Ice Climber (9 references)
19. Chosoju Mecha MG (9 references)
20. Wars (8 references)
20. Chibi-Robo (8 references)
21. Panel de Pon (7 references)
22. Electroplankton (6 references)
22. Nintendogs (6 references)
23. Robotic Operating Buddy (5 references)
23. Kururin (5 references)
23. Drill Dozer (5 references)
23. Trace Memory (5 references)
23. Digiluxe (5 references)
24. Excitebike (4 references)
24. 1080 (4 references)
24. Wii (4 references)
24. Hotel Dusk (4 references)
24. Sennen Kazoku (4 references)
24. Wave Race (4 references)
25. Devil World (3 references)
25. Golden Sun (3 references)
25. Balloon Fight (3 references)
25. Big Brain Academy (3 references)
25. Card Hero (3 references)
26. Nintendo DS (2 references)
26. Band Bros. (2 references)
26. Sim City (2 references)
26. Punch-Out!! (2 references)
26. Sin and Punishment (2 references)
26. 3D Hot Rally (2 references)
26. Clu Clu Land (2 references)
26. DS Cooking Navi (2 references)
26. Nazo no Murasamejo (2 references)
26. Shin Onigashima (2 references)
26. Tetris (2 references)
26. X (2 references)
26. Slide Adventure MAGKID (2 references)
26. Stunt Race FX (2 references)
27. Brain Age (1 reference)
27. Soccer (1 reference)
27. Super Scope (1 reference)
27. Duck Hunt (1 reference)
27. English Training (1 reference)
27. For the Frog the Bell Tolls (1 reference)
27. Ice Hockey (1 reference)
27. Joy Mecha Fight (1 reference)
27. Mach Rider (1 reference)
27. Pilotwings (1 reference)
27. Wild Gunman (1 reference)
27. Yakuman (1 reference)
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