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Post by Nester the Lark on Feb 14, 2010 14:04:18 GMT -5
I'm sorry if you already knew about this, or if it's already been pointed out. Plus, I don't know if this cameo qualifies for being on the site in any way, but I just happened to stumble upon it and thought it was cool.
The NES/Famicom version of Defender II uses music from the NES version of Punch-out!! in two places. When you start a game, it uses the generic boxer intro music (altho a longer version of it), and the "Attack Wave Complete" music is the same music that plays when Little Mac loses a fight.
You can hear both in the video below:
It's worth noting that the NES/Famicom version of Defender II was ported (and I think also published) by HAL.
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Post by The Great Gatsby on Feb 14, 2010 20:07:18 GMT -5
The sound for destroying an enemy sounds like one of the sounds from Punch-Out as well. Can't put my finger on it at the moment.
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Post by porygon on May 16, 2010 23:22:25 GMT -5
well actually that game came out before punch-out, so punch-out uses defender 2 music
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Post by Fryguy64 on May 17, 2010 3:37:42 GMT -5
Is there "generic boxer intro music"? I thought they were all national anthems or classical music from various countries. Might be worth looking into that possibility first. It'll also be worth looking into whether that music was used in any other versions of Defender II.
As far as sound effects go... I dunno. I thought the NES was limited in its sound-effects library, or maybe Nintendo created a library that they dished out to other parties.
Although, as has been stated, release dates are important here. If Punch-Out came second, it's not really a cameo.
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Post by Manspeed on May 17, 2010 11:26:24 GMT -5
Yeah, various NES games shared sound effects with one another, so I'm thinking this isn't a cameo. Remember how many Nintendo games used the same "Pause" sound effect? Remember when I pointed out that Bald Bull's laugh is the same as Ganon's? Hell, in Castlevania III, the sound of Trevor getting hurt is the same as Link getting hurt in Zelda II.  |
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Post by Nester the Lark on May 17, 2010 12:09:15 GMT -5
Is there "generic boxer intro music"? I thought they were all national anthems or classical music from various countries. Might be worth looking into that possibility first. It'll also be worth looking into whether that music was used in any other versions of Defender II. Although, as has been stated, release dates are important here. If Punch-Out came second, it's not really a cameo. Well, I'm not the expert, but here's what I can tell you. By "generic boxer intro music", I meant the music that plays after the anthem, when the boxer is moving to the middle of the ring. Compare the music at about the 0:14 mark in the video above with the 0:55 mark in this NES Punch-out!! video. Also, according to my own quick and dirty research, Punch-out!! was first released on the NES in North America on October 1987. The NES version of Defender II was first released in Japan on September 1987. However, the song was originally used in the arcade version of Punch-out!! (which you can hear at the 0:32 mark here) that came out in 1984, so it most definitely was not used in Defender II first. Also, the song is not in the original arcade version of Stargate: Defender II (which doesn't really have music anyway). I can't say for other ports, however. Also, compare the music at 0:53 in the Defender II video above with the NES Punch-out!! music at 0:33 here. (I couldn't find an actual gameplay video that shows Little Mac losing, but that's the music that plays. I have the game on the VC if my personal verification means anything.) |
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Post by Fryguy64 on May 17, 2010 12:38:06 GMT -5
I think the fact HAL was involved is definitely interesting... And the fact both games came out at pretty much the same time. Do we know who the composer for Punch-Out!! was?
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Post by Nester the Lark on May 17, 2010 13:10:57 GMT -5
I think the fact HAL was involved is definitely interesting... And the fact both games came out at pretty much the same time. Do we know who the composer for Punch-Out!! was? , it was Akito Nakatsuka. I can't find any evidence that he ever worked at Hal or on the original arcade version of Punch-out!!. |
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Post by The Qu on May 17, 2010 14:27:01 GMT -5
The Look Sharpe/Be Sharpe March from Gillete Calvacade of Sports- one of the most famous boxing programs ever. About as close as generic boxing music as you can get.
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Post by porygon on May 17, 2010 18:43:14 GMT -5
so then if that music was just made for boxing, then maybe defender 2 really is borrowing th music from punchout.
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