E3 2010

[Arcadenik]

A new Donkey Kong game? Wouldn't that be awesome if it was the proper sequel to Donkey Kong Country 3 or Donkey Kong 64?

[The Qu]

Awesome? Yeah, kinda. Plausible, no.

[Arcadenik]

LOL I am starting to think that Donkey Kong is Nintendo's answer to Sega's Sonic... ;D At least there are no Kong recolors and "original" fancharacters plaguing the Internet... as far as I know.

[Koopaul]

It's because Sonic is "cool" and DK is a "stupid ape"

[Wildcat]

I'm going into this E3 with very little expectations Nintendo-wise, as I mentioned before. I was pleasantly surprised last year, and I'm hoping that it'll pay off this year.

That said, I am eagerly looking forward to Marvel Vs. Capcom 3's revelations, and secretly hoping UBI Soft will do something with Beyond Good & Evil 2 to dispel the frequent and increasingly irritating rumors of its cancelation/delay/WTF? of the last few months.

[Nester the Lark]

Jun 13, 2010 22:32:37 GMT -5 Wildcat said:

I'm going into this E3 with very little expectations Nintendo-wise, as I mentioned before. I was pleasantly surprised last year, and I'm hoping that it'll pay off this year.

I don't understand why you have to try to outguess Nintendo either way be assuming it'll either be awesome or disappointing. Why not just wait and see, and then decide how you feel about it? That's what works for me.

[Wildcat]

Jun 13, 2010 22:36:20 GMT -5 Nester the Lark said:

Jun 13, 2010 22:32:37 GMT -5 Wildcat said:

I'm going into this E3 with very little expectations Nintendo-wise, as I mentioned before. I was pleasantly surprised last year, and I'm hoping that it'll pay off this year.

I don't understand why you have to try to outguess Nintendo either way be assuming it'll either be awesome or disappointing. Why not just wait and see, and then decide how you feel about it? That's what works for me.

That's what I thought I said...maybe I didn't phrase it all that well. What I'm trying to say is that I'm not trying to figure out what Nintendo's doing, but instead I'll be rolling along with whatever they have in store, as that philosophy paid off for me last year. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Shrikeswind]

What works for me is a surprise: I don't actually pay attention to E3 proper, but instead to the discussion surrounding it. That way, I can't hype myself up on E3 stuff. I've just taken it as "That time when the gaming industry starts talking about huge-ass projects."

With regards to DK, Arcadenik, I'm gonna have to disagree. Like everything else Nintendo does cartoony and fun, Donkey Kong was never meant to be particularly attitudinal, so he doesn't have the hedgehog's spirit in that sense. Plus the fact that there is a verifiable reason DK went downhill: After Rare left, no one could match 'em because they set the bar so high. If Retro can pull it, I'll be glad.

[Nester the Lark]

Jun 13, 2010 22:49:42 GMT -5 Wildcat said:

That's what I thought I said...maybe I didn't phrase it all that well. What I'm trying to say is that I'm not trying to figure out what Nintendo's doing, but instead I'll be rolling along with whatever they have in store, as that philosophy paid off for me last year. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

I guess I misinterpreted what you meant by "little expectations." I thought you meant you were expecting a weak showing. But also, my comment was perhaps aimed at the general thread.

I should also clarify that taking a wait-and-see approach doesn't mean we shouldn't get enthused about it. As author W.P. Kinsella once wrote, anticipation is half the fun.

[Da Robot]

Microsoft has apparantly renamed Project Natal to "Kinect."

And some early games for the system . . .


•Nintendogs . . . um . . . cats Kinectimals lets you train and play with 20 different virtual cats, including a lion, cheetah and tiger. (please have a liger . . . please have a liger . . .)

•Wii SportsKinect Sports has six activities including boxing, bowling, beach volleyball, track and field, soccer and table tennis. To serve a volleyball, you mimic the real motion; in soccer, you can kick the ball or do a header.

•Wii Sports Resort canoe game Kinect Adventures includes a river-raft time trial and obstacle course, playable by up to four players. On the raft, playing as a duo, you and a partner must lean one way or another to steer. Jumping helps the raft reach special areas for extra points.

•Joyride, a racing game, lets players use their hands to hold an imaginary steering wheel — pull your hands toward you and push back out for an acceleration boost — and their bodies to execute jumps and tricks. (This was unveiled at E3 last year but as free to play downloadable game with microtransactions played with a normal controller but it appear to now become a retail product played with Kinect).

•Dance Central, in development by MTV Games, brings a So You Think You Can Dance experience home.

•Star Wars characters and iconic Disney favorites will be featured in separate new games being developed at Microsoft in conjunction with LucasArts and Disney.



And now back to Nintendo . . . er . . . Here's some Epic Mickey promo images . . .

[The Qu]

As sparse as they are, those are some cool promos. I love how Oswald looks.

[Deleted]

Jun 13, 2010 22:04:18 GMT -5 Koopaul said:

It's because Sonic is "cool" and DK is a "stupid ape"

I know you were being ironic, but it's hilarious how true it is when you invert that.

I don't feel like Donkey Kong has gone downhill, like most people do. DK isn't like most of Nintendo's other franchises: his "gameplay" style has always been in flux. He started as an arcade series, then became a platformer, and has since crossed into swinging, racing, rhythm gaming and, uh, bongo-platforming. The DKC trilogy is lauded for good reason, though I still maintain that the first was the best of the lot, as the second and third were More of the Same (which isn't a bad thing in this case, but still)...the problem is that the Rare-DK era has long since passed and isn't coming back.

Besides, this is IGN we're talking about. They're so crooked that they need somebody to hold them up when they tie their shoes to keep from falling over.

Jun 14, 2010 1:25:23 GMT -5 Da Robot said:

Microsoft has apparantly renamed Project Natal to "Kinect."

And some early games for the system . . .


•Nintendogs . . . um . . . cats Kinectimals lets you train and play with 20 different virtual cats, including a lion, cheetah and tiger. (please have a liger . . . please have a liger . . .)

•Wii SportsKinect Sports has six activities including boxing, bowling, beach volleyball, track and field, soccer and table tennis. To serve a volleyball, you mimic the real motion; in soccer, you can kick the ball or do a header.

•Wii Sports Resort canoe game Kinect Adventures includes a river-raft time trial and obstacle course, playable by up to four players. On the raft, playing as a duo, you and a partner must lean one way or another to steer. Jumping helps the raft reach special areas for extra points.

•Joyride, a racing game, lets players use their hands to hold an imaginary steering wheel — pull your hands toward you and push back out for an acceleration boost — and their bodies to execute jumps and tricks. (This was unveiled at E3 last year but as free to play downloadable game with microtransactions played with a normal controller but it appear to now become a retail product played with Kinect).

•Dance Central, in development by MTV Games, brings a So You Think You Can Dance experience home.

•Star Wars characters and iconic Disney favorites will be featured in separate new games being developed at Microsoft in conjunction with LucasArts and Disney.



And now back to Nintendo . . . er . . . Here's some Epic Mickey promo images . . .

Good, I'm glad I'm not the only one who made that connection. -_-; Fuck motion sensing in games. Fuck it hard.

[kirbychu]

I bought an Xbox to escape motion sensing in games. Why is it following me?

[Deleted]

Jun 14, 2010 6:27:14 GMT -5 kirbychu said:

I bought an Xbox to escape motion sensing in games. Why is it following me?

CASH MONEY, NIGGAAAAAA.

But yeah, it's just business from Microsoft's end. Nintendo currently has the corner on motion sensor games, which is also associated with Family Friendly Fun. That dual monopoly (duopoly?) has been Nintendo's biggest source of income over the past four years (at least, I'm lead to believe that - I might be wrong), so it only makes sense that Microsoft would try to get their foot in the door.

Honestly, I'm less annoyed and more disappointed by Kinect. I mean, there's nothing forcing me to play the games, and motion sensor isn't going to be an aspect built into every XBox game to follow. Plus, it's not going to be like the Wii, where you have to rely on motion sensing for the most basic things, like navigating the menu. (You can plug in a classic controller and use the joystick on that if you feel like it, but it moves at a snails' pace. And why just the Classic? It doesn't happen with the Nunchuck or GCN controller.)

The 360's current target audience started out as, and will end as, core gamers. I wouldn't worry about it until the XBox 720 comes around, and by then I'm sure Microsoft will have given up on motion sensing altogether.

[Dances in Undergarments]

Jun 14, 2010 8:03:22 GMT -5 @sgtmajorkururu said:

Plus, it's not going to be like the Wii, where you have to rely on motion sensing for the most basic things, like navigating the menu.

Yeah, I hate being forced to use process that are more natural and, lets face it, better.

Shock horror, the Kinect stuff is like the Wii stuff is like the Move stuff. They're all the same, and 99% of developers aren't going do anything different. This is not new.