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Post by TV Eye on Jul 6, 2010 12:30:45 GMT -5
'Kay, plenty of geeks on this forum. I'm just curious about your guys' preference.
I'm a big Marvel fan myself. Grew up buying Spiderman and X-men comics.
But, yeah. Out of all the superheroes, Spiderman is my favorite. I just love how he's evolved over time. Starting as a nerdy teenager and ending up marrying a model. Shouldn't we all be this lucky?
As for DC...I honestly can't stand any of the heroes besides Batman. They are all so generic. Luckily, most have developed into likable characters, but Superman is still so...dull.
And Marvel games have been known to kick tremendous ass. Marvel vs. Capcom is one that comes to mind as well as X-men Legends and Spiderman 2.
What about you guys?
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Post by Old Man Rupee on Jul 6, 2010 14:19:34 GMT -5
Marvel. SO HARD. All though DC does good stuff of course, Batman being the top of the pile. But they just haven't got as many good ideas as Marvel, I mean, Superman and Wonder Woman? Yawn.
Even so, Marvel takes a back seat to my love of the little guys: Atomic Robo of Red 5 comics, Chew, Scott Pilgrim himself, and web originals, especially now I've got some in book form! Webcomics have really cornered the awesome market recently.
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Post by parrothead on Jul 6, 2010 16:45:33 GMT -5
Well, I'm not very interested in comics, but Marvel seems slightly more interesting than DC, in my opinion, because DC looks pretty plain, although Superman defines a superhero that flies and wears a cape, while nearly every (if not every) tool and vehicle Batman uses exists (or are based on the ones that exist) and works in reality. My brother got me interested in the Fox Kids X-Men show for a while, and I still have one of the VHS tapes given out to Pizza Hut customers. Me and my brother also collected mostly X-Men trading cards, some about other Marvel characters. He gave me the most common ones, while he kept the more interesting ones. I also enjoyed playing the SNES and Genesis versions of Data East's arcade classic, Captain America & The Avengers. Although, I've never played the NES Captain America nor Avengers in Galactic Storm, they look fun. I don't have anything to say about the NES title, but Avengers in Galactic Storm was one of Data East's last fighting games, as well as their last Captain America game. Other than being a fighting game that resembles Rare's Killer Instinct series in graphics, Avengers in Galactic Storm was probably the earliest fighting game that features what many refer to as "helpers" or "strikers". Here are some combos performed in it. If any of you have ever seen the Japanese (or Toei) Spider-Man, and wonder why he has a vehicle and a giant mech, then that's the same reason why the TMNT got the Turtle Van and Turtle Blimp in the 1987 cartoon show (which they originally didn't have them in their comics that started it all). They were added to help create toys based on them. Before the Super Sentai / Power Rangers series and other Japanese shows had giant mechs, Toei's Spider-Man had it first. Nowadays, Toei's Spider-Man became a meme in Japan. |
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Post by The Qu on Jul 6, 2010 17:01:26 GMT -5
DC all the way, baby. I don't need to relate to my heroes- that isn't what you should look for in heroes. DC offers impeccable heroes, the kind you aspire to be like. That's why I love Superman so much- he's the definitive hero, super or not. As Alan Moore, a writer I usually detest, put it, he's the "perfect man who came from the sky and did only good."
Not that DC doesn't have relatable heroes. Look at Wally West or Kyle Rayner. Jamie Reyes is one of my favorite heroes because I can relate to what he's going through, despite what I said in the above paragraph.
DC;s old guard seems a lot better to me as well. Marvel HAS Golden Age characters. But outside of a few (Steve Rogers FTW!!), they can't hold a candle to Jay, Alan, the Teds, Terry, Carter, etc. etc. The best old fogies in comics.
In short, I love the shit out of DC.
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Post by Manspeed on Jul 6, 2010 20:04:52 GMT -5
What The Qu said.  I was practically raised on DC. The fact that WB made so many awesome TV shows outta them is what made them my favorite of the two for all these years. |
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Post by Johans Nidorino on Jul 6, 2010 20:49:16 GMT -5
The fact that WB made so many awesome TV shows outta them is what made them my favorite of the two for all these years. I wasn't raised reading American superhero comics, but this is exactly what has made me love DC, specifically the "DC Animated Universe" that comprises Batman's and Superman's animated series of the 90s, Justice League + Unlimited and spin-offs of them. The recent direct-to-video animated movies are awesome, too! |
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jul 6, 2010 21:53:24 GMT -5
DC by far. Marvel's great and all, but I've always been put off by the lack of originality in their origin stories. The X-Men are all mutants, Spiderman got bit by a mutant spider, the Hulk mutated himself, Fantastic Four got mutated by space-rays, it goes on. With DC, you get Superman and the yellow sun, Wonder Woman being an Amazon, a ring for the Lanterns, Batman's utility belt, the Teen Titans coming from an ass-load of sources from Cyborg's cybernetics to Raven's demonic parentage. The list goes on. About the only mutant I can think of in DC is Beast Boy, the only non-mutant in Marvel is Iron Man. (By the way, the intent behind the word "Mutant" is to use the medical definition where it stems from a genetic abnormality not present in the parents, such as being born able to shoot lazors from your eyes for Cyclops or being bitten by a messed up spider that screws with your DNA for Spiderman. That's the story on pretty much all of Marvel: Something fucked up their DNA.)
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Post by The Qu on Jul 6, 2010 22:09:12 GMT -5
Well, Beast Boy got his powers from a radioactive monkey, so he's not exactly that different from Spidey either... =P
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Post by TV Eye on Jul 6, 2010 22:09:13 GMT -5
^ Pfft, that's crazy. Marvel characters may not have interesting origins, but they have fantastically developed backstories. Magneto grew up in Poland during the Nazi regime. Seeing how the Jews were treated he became increasingly angry at humans and their constant hatred of what they don't understand. Bruce Banner has to make sure his pulse remains low, otherwise he'll transform into an unstoppable monster (which he has now been able to control). Hell, Akira Toriyama liked this so much he added elements of the Hulk into Dragonball with those giant ape transformations. Storm was raised in Africa where she was treated as a goddess due to her powers.
I could go on and on.
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jul 6, 2010 23:28:30 GMT -5
@ The Qu - I believe I mentioned that.
@ TV Eye - Well, true. But I'm still a bit unimpressed by the power origins. Though I have to say, I'm quite the more impressed with Magneto knowing that and a bit surprised at how he turned out to have a backstory similar to one of my own characters. And that pulse thing doesn't give Hulk a more interesting backstory.
I never really got into X-Men, as you can tell from my lack of knowledge about Magneto, feeling that they just started swamping the franchise with flat, crappy characters like Cyclops or Jean Gray (even after she went nuts I still found her dull.) In spite of this, I did grow fond of several characters, off the top of my head, Magneto, Storm, Wolverine, and Nightcrawler.
Is Deadpool a mutant? Much as I love him, I never got a chance to get too involved in him, since I could never find his comics.
And finally, if anyone knows where I can find some Deathstroke comics (not Teen Titans featuring him, but "Deathstroke the Terminator,") I would be appreciative. Big fan of his.
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Post by TV Eye on Jul 6, 2010 23:53:51 GMT -5
^ Have you tried looking through torrents?
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jul 6, 2010 23:56:22 GMT -5
I mean stores that stock the paper versions.
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Post by The Qu on Jul 7, 2010 0:23:25 GMT -5
Deadpool isn't a mutant, he's a mutate: Someone who has had their DNA artificially altered. He has an advanced healing factor form the Weapon X program, which he enrolled in to try and stave off his cancer. It worked, but now he's terribly scarred in the face. His tenuous sanity has lead him to apparently actually believe the mask is his face.
Deathstroke isn't really worth it, honestly. It changes directions- and names- about every fifteen issues. IIRC, nothing ever really gets resolved, either. Plus, in issue 19, a terrorist blows up an entire country and never got punished for that, despite working with governments from time to time. Yeah, it was a haphazard comic.
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Post by Shrikeswind on Jul 7, 2010 0:59:20 GMT -5
A rose by any other name, mate. Genetic alteration is what it takes. Though in Deadpool's case I'm willing to ignore it since it's fucking Deadpool, and it doesn't give him a visible superpower (i.e., enhanced strength, flight, pyrokinesis, ability to shoot strawberry custard out of your armpits, shit like that.)
Actually, that was kinda what I liked about it. Well, that and ol' Slade Wilson's a fucking bad-ass.
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Post by The Qu on Jul 7, 2010 1:24:02 GMT -5
Slade is a badass. I'm looking foreword to his Titans team made of villains and anti-villains. And Arsenal. Didn't know you'd read Slade's series- good luck tracking it down if you liked it. It's kinda hard to find, but not especially rare, if that makes sense. No demand. Try milehighcomics.com or mycomicshop.com. I've had good results with them.
Yeah, mutates are pretty much the same thing as mutants. There is some bickering about whether they "count" as mutants that is pretty interesting. The X-Men can come off as rather condesencing at best, "racist" at worst. It's like if a white guy tried to help out the crazier Black Panthers- it's not pretty and is rather counter intuitive. But nobody seems to want to play off of that aspect.
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