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Post by Shrikeswind on Feb 25, 2017 18:05:07 GMT -5
So I've decided to undertake a massive musical project and I need some input from you guys. So here's the situation: I'm going to be recording the entire history of video games in song. I need influential releases, major events in gaming history, and so on. The big thing here is that, even if the event doesn't necessarily involve a game, I'd like to hear some input on a game from the period of that event which is immediately relevant to that event (so for example, the Gaming Crash of '83 would need a game from that time period with a direct link to the Crash...so, y'know, E.T.) Two things to remember: This is going back to Pong-era, so feel free to go a bit prehistoric on me; and while gaming's become a huge thing lately, I'm not going to be providing equal opportunity for games of all eras, so I'm not going to spam this project with every big release of the past 10 years. Super Mario Galaxy was a big release but Wii Sports was more historic - it represented a shift in focus to casual gamers that continues to resonate even today despite ultimately being a bland sports simulator. I'll be sticking around in this thread so that, if you need some help in clarifying what sort of events I'm looking for, I can provide some information when needed, but I will not be joining the discussion at large. My input is only to clarify if you guys get in a snit about what I mean by historically relevant. So: Here's the base of what I'm looking for (list subject to update as discussion unfolds.) - Influential releases - You can probably guess which games I'm talking about here. What influence did it have on the development of the gaming industry? Mortal Kombat was responsible for the ESRB, Donkey Kong Country was a huge step forward in graphical development, Final Fantasy defined a major genre, Halo introduced a new and important console, Sonic the Hedgehog started a major industry relationship...things like that.
- Industry shakeups - Remember when Microsoft bought Rareware? How about when Sega stopped making hardware? Things like that.
- Developer changes - When a new developer comes on the scene and makes something big, or when a well-known developer stops making games or...ahem...stops. From the first games out of Shigeru Miyamoto and Notch to the deaths of Satoru Iwata and Gunpei Yokoi, these are worth at least a quick jingle.
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Post by Leon on Feb 25, 2017 21:17:07 GMT -5
Nintendo buying Monolith Soft in 2007 made a lot of teenagers cry.
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Post by nocturnal YL on Feb 26, 2017 0:20:36 GMT -5
I'm thinking in terms of general notability. Some games may not affect the industry much, but are played by many. If you look at gaming as a whole, those PC guys get all the fun when it comes to influence. Think along the lines of Counter Strike and Team Fortress 2. Or StarCraft, which pretty much gave birth the whole eSports thing in Korea (and had its fair share of worldwide influence). Also, phone gaming. Whether's it's Nokia's Snake, those Japanese phone games (like those mahjong tiles games for i-mode devices) before smartphones were a worldwide thing, and (of course) the more notable examples of the recent phone games. What about broswer games? Helicopter Game came to mind. And while I can't say if it's notable at this moment, here's the first WebAssembly game widely known to the general public (as much as I hate Unity). And then there are PC toys like SkiFree or Solitaire (Klondike). (Question: Does this thread belong to this board or elsewhere like the general board? This project seems to be game-related, but barely Nintendo-related.) |
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Post by Shrikeswind on Feb 26, 2017 3:32:55 GMT -5
I figured it fit here since the project is fan-art (fan-music?) which, given the theme, is most definitely going to have a lot of Nintendo in it, given the very clear influence Nintendo's had on gaming pretty much since Nintendo started making games.
As an aside, if a game doesn't have music (like PC Solitaire, unless I've forgotten?) then I necessarily can't include it, even if the game is influential - or rather, I'd have to make some serious stretches to get it in (as I'm doing with Pong - and if you think that's a spoiler you've made a critical error. Now go reboot in the corner.) On that note: If a game doesn't have audio but you think it needs to be included, I'd like some ideas on some audio I could include to represent it despite the lack (for example, a re-release with audio.)
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Post by nocturnal YL on Feb 26, 2017 4:02:18 GMT -5
Oh, I thought you were writing a song about games (as opposed to a game music medley), in which case having no music wouldn't affect whether the game can be included. Games with sound effects aren't the hardest to work with, but it does mean you have to come up with your own melody or at least beat (see the Game & Watch songs in Smash). I was wondering if you can include sound effects from a later release (e.g. Windows 10's Microsoft Solitaire Collection or the Windows Vista Solitaire remake in place of Windows 3.x's Solitaire), but it may undermine the historical context (especially with my example, where the early Solitaire is well-loved and the Windows 10 version, not so much). ( EDIT - In my example, the Windows Vista Solitaire sound effect of the cards flipping combined with the Windows 3.0-Me ding.wav sound may work. That should convey the "Windows card game" message.) There may be one more problem: even if you take sound effects from famous games, they may not make sense to a general audience without context. Your average general public gamer may recognise the Super Mushroom powerup sound, but can they tell apart a beep from Nokia's Snake and the ticking sounds of a Game & Watch system? Nintendo has a lot of influence on games in general, but I think it may contribue to less than 10% of your project. I don't think it's actually wrong to call it a Nintendo-related project; it can go either way. Out of curiousity, to what extent are you going to reach the past? Do you count Nimrod or Tennis for Two? Or do you only count events after there was a whole industry around video games? |
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Post by Shrikeswind on Feb 26, 2017 6:38:58 GMT -5
I'm not sure. I mean, on one hand I want to cut it at the '70s when commercialization started, but on the other, I realize I damn well could go all the way back to Bertie or CRTAD, and it feels like I'm rationalizing whichever I choose. I'll leave that decision in your guys' hands, though right now, like I said in OP, I'm cutting it at the '70s and Pong.
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Post by Evie ❤✿ on Apr 18, 2019 15:01:11 GMT -5
So have got a few ideas for you  in no particular order, based on some well-received games/cultural phenomena if you ever want to get back to this: Pong 3D Pinball Space Cadet (Microsoft, Windows) Pac-Man (Namco, arcade) Xevious (Konami, arcade) Angry Birds Space Invaders Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo, NES) Super Mario 64 (Nintendo, N64) Call of Duty Tomb Raider Final Fantasy VII Halo Grand Theft Auto Sonic the Hedgehog Skyrim World of Warcraft Undertale The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Pokémon Red and Blue/Yellow Pokémon Gold and Silver/Crystal Pokémon GO! Super Mario Odyssey Crash Bandicoot Street Fighter Tekken Castlevania Tetris Super Mario Galaxy Candy Crush and FarmVille Harvest Moon Star Fox 64 Animal Crossing Sonic The Hedgehog 2 Super Mario World (and many other iconic games that moved the industry in becoming popular, with many I can't think of right now) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_considered_the_bestIf notable but negatively received video games are included: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_notable_for_negative_reception |
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in no particular order, based on some well-received games/cultural phenomena if you ever want to get back to this: