Post by nocturnal YL on Mar 20, 2017 13:11:02 GMT -5
Something of a rant topic, but I really wanted a place to vent my frustration.
Game publishers would sometimes take an existing game, add a few extra features, and release it as a new game that could be on the same system or a different one. Unlike remakes, features from the old version is used substantially and the added parts account for, say, less than 30% of the new game. Almost everyone does it. Nintendo does this a lot too, though sometimes the old version may get a free update to match the new game's contents (Style Savvy 3 and Animal Crossing: New Leaf, IIRC).
For the most part, this doesn't bother me, but more recently, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe made me resent Nintendo for punishing loyal customers. Maybe I'm not that "loyal", but I took the hit worse as I got MK8 pretty late. At first, I was not interested; MK7 left me uninterested in "another Mario Kart", but the MK8 DLC got me interested. I was actually waiting for a version that includes DLC tracks by default, which I eventually assumed wouldn't happen as the Wii U approached its end. I bought the game, very late, DLC and all. In all fairness, this is an excellent game.
And then they announced Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. With a brand new Battle Mode.
And this got me very annoyed. I just paid the equivalent of 1.1 games for the whole thing (I got it late, so the base game was a bit cheaper), and now you're telling me that to fix some of its most glaring mistakes (missing obvious characters like Bowser Jr. and mechanics likethe 2-item system and a full Battle Mode), I have to get a different version of the game. Not to mention that if I waited just about half a year (on a game that I was in no hurry to get), I'd actually end up paying less for more.
You owe me $60, Nintendo.
I'd have similar complaints for Puyo Puyo Tetris, but I got that game closer to launch. Still, given the relatively small differences between the old versions (PS3 / PS Vita / 3DS / Wii U) and the new ones (PS4 / Xbox One / Switch), I was surprised they didn't update the old versions. If anything, a better game balance would help alleviate the problem of online battles filled with nothing but elite Tetris players.
I'm on the opposite end for another game: Hatsune Miku Project mirai DX. This game is an enhanced remake of Project mirai 2, which in turn features a superset of mirai 1's songs (but with completely different gameplay, so mirai 1 and 2/DX are considered different games). I got into the Hatsune Miku fandom only very recently, so naturally I skipped everything and jumped straight into DX.
More general discussion: I wish they could at least provide a discount (and save file transfer, which Project mirai 2/DX did have) for cases like this. The practice of releasing slightly changed versions and leave the older releases behind may make me skeptical about getting new games, especially the ones I'm only casually interested in (as is the case with Mario Kart). Though knowing game publishers (and especially Nintendo), I don't think they're ever going to do this. There will be fans who get MK8DX despite already having MK8, so why would they bother?
Sigh.
EDIT: TV Tropes page on this phenomenon. Besides the Nintendo and SEGA examples above, Koei Tecmo is guilty of this too with Hyrule Warriors on 3DS.
Game publishers would sometimes take an existing game, add a few extra features, and release it as a new game that could be on the same system or a different one. Unlike remakes, features from the old version is used substantially and the added parts account for, say, less than 30% of the new game. Almost everyone does it. Nintendo does this a lot too, though sometimes the old version may get a free update to match the new game's contents (Style Savvy 3 and Animal Crossing: New Leaf, IIRC).
For the most part, this doesn't bother me, but more recently, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe made me resent Nintendo for punishing loyal customers. Maybe I'm not that "loyal", but I took the hit worse as I got MK8 pretty late. At first, I was not interested; MK7 left me uninterested in "another Mario Kart", but the MK8 DLC got me interested. I was actually waiting for a version that includes DLC tracks by default, which I eventually assumed wouldn't happen as the Wii U approached its end. I bought the game, very late, DLC and all. In all fairness, this is an excellent game.
And then they announced Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. With a brand new Battle Mode.
And this got me very annoyed. I just paid the equivalent of 1.1 games for the whole thing (I got it late, so the base game was a bit cheaper), and now you're telling me that to fix some of its most glaring mistakes (missing obvious characters like Bowser Jr. and mechanics likethe 2-item system and a full Battle Mode), I have to get a different version of the game. Not to mention that if I waited just about half a year (on a game that I was in no hurry to get), I'd actually end up paying less for more.
You owe me $60, Nintendo.
I'd have similar complaints for Puyo Puyo Tetris, but I got that game closer to launch. Still, given the relatively small differences between the old versions (PS3 / PS Vita / 3DS / Wii U) and the new ones (PS4 / Xbox One / Switch), I was surprised they didn't update the old versions. If anything, a better game balance would help alleviate the problem of online battles filled with nothing but elite Tetris players.
I'm on the opposite end for another game: Hatsune Miku Project mirai DX. This game is an enhanced remake of Project mirai 2, which in turn features a superset of mirai 1's songs (but with completely different gameplay, so mirai 1 and 2/DX are considered different games). I got into the Hatsune Miku fandom only very recently, so naturally I skipped everything and jumped straight into DX.
More general discussion: I wish they could at least provide a discount (and save file transfer, which Project mirai 2/DX did have) for cases like this. The practice of releasing slightly changed versions and leave the older releases behind may make me skeptical about getting new games, especially the ones I'm only casually interested in (as is the case with Mario Kart). Though knowing game publishers (and especially Nintendo), I don't think they're ever going to do this. There will be fans who get MK8DX despite already having MK8, so why would they bother?
Sigh.
EDIT: TV Tropes page on this phenomenon. Besides the Nintendo and SEGA examples above, Koei Tecmo is guilty of this too with Hyrule Warriors on 3DS.