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Post by Fryguy64 on May 9, 2006 8:21:10 GMT -5
So, the first bit of news relevant to Nintendo is actually from Sony's conference.
Nintendo was right and wrong about unveiling their controller concept. They said that the technology would be copied by their competitors if they unveiled the Wii controller early.
They were right: Sony jumped on the bandwagon in one of the most shameless copycat actions the company has performed since... well... the Dualshock. The PS3 controller has been revised - the boomerang design has been chucked in favour of the classic (finger-bending) Dualshock design... it's wireless and... yes... it's motion sensitive.
However, Nintendo was also wrong: If Sony was trying to copy the technology of the Wiimote, they seriously ballsed it up. The PS3 controller contains a tilt sensor which is in no way similar to Nintendo's technology. It can be used for steering, perhaps even lifting things in the game... You cannot swing it and expect the same action on the screen. You cannot perform precise actions or manipulations. You cannot even aim and fire.
Better still, the Dualshock 3 will not have a "shock" - the rumble actually messes with the movement sensors, making it impossible for the two to co-exist. The Wiimote does rumble and... if recent rumours are anything to go by... may even contain a small speaker for sound effects (Clashing swords? Gunfire? Swish!)
And Sony's console will cost $499-599... while the Wii is likely to cost $150-$200. Hopefully more on that soon.
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Post by kirbychu on May 9, 2006 9:06:32 GMT -5
I think we all expected this, didn't we? Though personally I thought they'd release it as a different kind of controller for use with certain games. Does this mean a PS3 controller with rumble capabilities is non-existant?
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Post by Fryguy64 on May 9, 2006 9:25:02 GMT -5
I guess so. This is now the default controller...
Sony's weird.
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Post by Flip on May 9, 2006 10:05:15 GMT -5
They can rot :/
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Post by Smashchu on May 15, 2006 17:51:19 GMT -5
Yeah. I think Sony become attantion whores lately. I am hoping the Wii can kick Sony out of the industry cause it seems sincwe the press conference there going down that path and they damn well know it.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on May 16, 2006 2:21:29 GMT -5
hahaha... no.
Sony aren't going anywhere.
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Post by wanderingshadow on May 16, 2006 7:47:08 GMT -5
 Control-Alt-Delete Online says it all. |
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Post by amazingeee on May 16, 2006 15:24:59 GMT -5
Jeez, Sony can be stupid. They replace a controller with bad buzz with a rip-off. They should have just released a peripheral. Now they have to throw away their rumble.
Of course Sony isn't going anywhere, but it at least looks like Nintendo can gain some ground in this round of the console wars. Sony and Microsoft want to see them go the way of Sega, and Wii (along with their continued dominance of the handheld market) has obviously bought them at least 5 more years of competitiveness and a shot at a 6th home console.
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Post by Smashchu on May 16, 2006 19:49:43 GMT -5
hahaha... no. Sony aren't going anywhere. Although most of you dont think it could happen I say the opposite. The biggest reason is hopw sony manufactuers systems. They will sell it for less then what they made it for. The idea is that you'll take a hit, but in the long run have better hardware. This should make you more money as well. So think about this. Sony makes a system for 700$ but your getting it for 600$. So if Sony doesn't sell that system they lose 700$, not 600$. If they cant move them early to have the lose even out they'll find them selves in deep finanshal troubles. This happened to Microsoft with the X-box. They couldn't sell enough systems so they took a big hit. The difference is they weren't trying to to sell a 600$ system and could bounce back No Im not saying Sony will go out of bissness, that wont happen easily; however, if they lose to much money they pull out of videogames. It seems Sony want this attention because they relize no one cares anymore and that could be the straw that broke the camels back. |
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Post by amazingeee on May 17, 2006 0:19:40 GMT -5
that could be the straw that broke the camels back.
Sony has dominated the home console market for a decade. In the last round of console wars, Nintendo lost to Sony 5:1. Sony just broke into the handheld market and have matched Nintendo's newest handheld in sales. Yes Nintendo have a more prolific software department, and yes they will turn a bigger per unit hardware profit despite selling at a fraction of the cost by sacrificing graphics- and I am optomistic that Nintendo will gain ground this round of the console wars- but Sony is nowhere NEAR to quitting videogames.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on May 17, 2006 1:56:24 GMT -5
Jeez, Sony can be stupid. They replace a controller with bad buzz with a rip-off. They should have just released a peripheral. Now they have to throw away their rumble. I think the entire reason they did this was because they couldn't have rumble (or at least not the old rumble system they were using) because of the recent court cases. So rather than have nothing, they put in a motion sensor (which, infact, is nothing like the Wiimote's one, though I'd assume the reason they picked the motion sensor was because they realised Ninty were onto something). And Smashchu, what do you mean "no-one cares anymore"? There is a ridiculous amount of PS2 owners, I am 100% sure they aren't gonna all go "OMFG SONY COPIED NINTENDO! I'M NEVER BUYING A PLAYSTATION AGAIN!". Sony will continue to be popular despite what they do, as they have the biggest library of games and enough exclusive franchises for people to buy the console. I personally don't think they are going to be as dominant this generation (in fact, I'm predicting a fairly even split between the 3 companies this time), but they aren't going to suddenly fold just because they are "out of ideas". |
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Post by Smashchu on May 17, 2006 17:51:22 GMT -5
And Smashchu, what do you mean "no-one cares anymore"? There is a ridiculous amount of PS2 owners, I am 100% sure they aren't gonna all go "OMFG SONY COPIED NINTENDO! I'M NEVER BUYING A PLAYSTATION AGAIN!". Sony will continue to be popular despite what they do, as they have the biggest library of games and enough exclusive franchises for people to buy the console. I personally don't think they are going to be as dominant this generation (in fact, I'm predicting a fairly even split between the 3 companies this time), but they aren't going to suddenly fold just because they are "out of ideas". Maybe I shouldn't have said "No one care anymore" but "They care less". Pdeople arn't happy about the PS3 in general. The 600$ is just to much for the average person. Sony is popular in the industry, but just becuase your popular today osn't mean your popular tomarrow. The same thing happen to Nintendo. Nintendo was King of the industry until Sony came. Al of a sudden the PS1 was the "cool" console. Now it dosn't happen quickly(despite what I said). Nintendo was slowing down for a while. On thing that is true is that they spiked quickly. All of a sudden the PS2 is the mahjor console and the Gamecube is kiddy. Now this negativity for Sony isn't new. The PSP is one of the probloms. Its not doing what people though it would and, once again, how Sony manufacture consoles it probobly isn't making them a truck load of cash. Now the PS3 is where you have that spike. The majority of E3 was the Wii and the 360. In fact I was watching X-play's Best of E3 recently and it was surprising. They gave awards to the games by console and other catigories. Sony only had 3 games that were nominated, 1 being a PS3 game. The Nintendo had 5 Wii games and 2 DS games. The 360 had more then 3(I dont remember how many). Its obvious the people aren't happy with Sony from, the price to the bad press conference. E3 means alot, so a screw up here is not something that heals quickly. Other consoles have dont bad, but theres wern't 600$. People do consider brand name and Sony has it. However money talks,so a 600 price tag means alot more then brand name. I dont expect you guys to beleive me. Its a weird consept and hard to say that Sony would flop. There may be a PS4 but this insident may be foreshadowing thing to come. |
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Post by amazingeee on May 18, 2006 0:25:26 GMT -5
Smashchu,
No one can say that E3 looks bad for the future of Nintendo. They had the most buzz-worthy hardware AND software and were deemed the unofficial winners by both critics and the public. This at a time when Sony are not only trying to minimize Nintendo's console market share, but aggressively attacking Nintendo's monopoly on the handheld market. FACT: Sony and Microsoft want Nintendo to become a third party game developer just like Atari, Hudson, Sega and every other independant company which has EVER tried to make their own hardware. And Nintendo have officially thumbed their nose at that idea, and delivered on their "revolution" when Sony once again imitated them.
BUT, this still means NOTHING in terms of bottom lines. Sony have tens of millions of loyal customers, they still have big name franchises, and they have the next several months to build the hype. I would not be surprised to see Sony's dominance wane, but that is something to observe over the next 6 years.
Edit: clarity.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on May 18, 2006 1:03:33 GMT -5
I assume you mean Sony in the first line there, otherwise I'm really confused.  I'm not necessarily gonna say you are wrong, Smashchu, since its your opinion, and, obviously, we can't predict the future. But I will say the thing that you need to remember is that not everyone in the world who plays games does what we do, going on the internet and researching and discussing games. The majority of people will walk into a store and buy the game that looks nice sitting there. And to them, Sony has done nothing wrong. In fact, if Nintendo don't beat the PS3 to the shelves, the Wii could very well be seen as stealing the PS3's idea. But what it comes down to is the games. If Ninty can convince everyone that they need Super Mario Galaxy, the Wii will win this generation. But, at the same time, Sony could do the same thing with Warhwak, and so the PS3 will once gain rule the roost. Its just too hard to tell. |
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Post by amazingeee on May 18, 2006 1:30:14 GMT -5
I assume you mean Sony in the first line there, otherwise I'm really confused. "No one can say that E3 looks bad for the future of Nintendo." Better? I think I had a few too many negatives before. In fact, if Nintendo don't beat the PS3 to the shelves, the Wii could very well be seen as stealing the PS3's idea.Ugh. Didn't even think of that. Honestly I'll be happy if Nintendo sell half as much as Sony though. Thats better than selling 1/5th as much. |
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