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Post by Spud on Jan 1, 2008 19:12:21 GMT -5
Anyway, Johans has a lot of interesting points, but a bunch of different Pokemon-related domain names have also been bought out by Nintendo--not just opal. I believe amethyst and topaz have been taken as well, so that doesn't really lend itself to either side of the argument. It's possible their just registering any domain name they may plan on using to prevent others form using them. This brings up the case of Nintendo of America Inc. v. Berric Lipson in regards to www.pokemon-center.com which in the end was handed over to NOA because of the use of the pokemon characters on a commercial website and similarity to Nintendo Owned website www.pokemoncenter.com. |
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Post by Johans Nidorino on Jan 1, 2008 19:37:38 GMT -5
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Post by Flip on Jan 2, 2008 0:25:11 GMT -5
Because of that fact, they now had to explain away in-game why Johto/Kanto Pokemon weren't available and then re-released Red/Blue and create Emerald/XD/Coloseum features that give you Johto monsters, essentially retconning GSC out of existence. ...I don't think you understand what retconning means. XD If Gold and Silver were retconned, it'd never be mentioned. But it is, so... it's not. It baffles me that people think GameFreak's reprogramming the Pokémon with a far superior system allowing for more individuality (even before considering natures) is a step backwards. Ouch. "Retcon" was the closest word I could think of; I'm pretty sure I'm familiar with the term being a geek and all  I LOVE the new battle system; I never said I hated it. What I did hate was that RSE wasn't an EXPERIENCE like the other 3 generations. It felt like I was just beating the game to get to the end and start training. At least the other games give you stuff to do along the way and beyond. RSE was such a shell of a game. Also, I bet they register domains like Pokemon Opal and Topaz to keep pirated games from hitting shelves. Remember all those people that bought Purple, Orange, White, and Brown? And the fake Pokemon Diamond... Yeesh |
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Post by Goomba Joe on Jan 2, 2008 0:39:28 GMT -5
Um...less legendaries? Infact, I really wouldn't mind a lack of legendaries in the next gen.
As for names, how about the simple Black and White?
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on Jan 2, 2008 4:18:36 GMT -5
This dude knows the score. For the next generation of Pokemon (not the 3rd game, but the next gen) there better be a hell of a lot more fire types than any other game, and they better be catchable early. |
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Post by Fryguy64 on Jan 2, 2008 5:19:12 GMT -5
Tei, I'm with you. Gen2 was my least favourite as well. They were good, but I much prefer the later generations (and Gen1 just holds a special place in my nostalgic heart).
The not-being-able-to-trade was a technical issue as much as anything else. The fact you had to suck it in and collect them all again by playing FR/LG and Colosseum/XD (and to some extent, D/P) was a great way to ensure people continued to get engrossed in the games.
I mean, it's not like your RBY or GSC team would even work in the new games, what with stat changes, natures and all the new 'mons. You're SUPPOSED to update your team from game to game.
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Post by TV Eye on Jan 2, 2008 8:28:21 GMT -5
But D/P was great. After you got the Nat Dex, you could catch practically any Pokemon! I thought that was amazing. (Yeah, I'm pretty easy to please  ) |
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Post by Johans Nidorino on Jan 3, 2008 21:16:56 GMT -5
Who here thinks that Volkner is going to challenge the Elite Four and become an Elite Four or Champion himself? Maybe he'll have never met a strong enough Trainer in the new storyline and decide to challenge the Elite Four. He sounds a bit like Wallace.
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Post by Spud on Jan 3, 2008 21:39:28 GMT -5
He sounds a bit like Wallace.   |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2008 21:59:59 GMT -5
I feel like I'm the only one here who didn't care much for Gen2. XD I was a huge fan for Gen3 though; it got me back into the franchise and I didn't have to worry about spillover from the past games. Never really understood the animosity towards Gen3. Wow, you didn't like gen2? It was the longest one, sixteen badges! I felt that Ruby/Sapphire was too short. Anyways, I hope the third version of Pokemon DP is longer. Maybe they have those other domains to throw you off?
(On a lesser note, I also bore issue with a lot of the Monsters from Gen2 - they didn't feel as memorable where they were new, and then old ones you'd have already trained in the past kept cropping up. Musically, the game felt lackluster as well, but that's probably just me and I did quite like the GSC remixes in FRLG.)
Besides, trading cross-generation from 1 to 2 was a hassle - from GSC you needed a Gen1 Pokémon that knew only Gen1 moves, as you actually performed a trade instead of just porting your Gen1 creatures over like you can do for Gen3 to Gen4.
Tei, I'm with you. Gen2 was my least favourite as well. They were good, but I much prefer the later generations (and Gen1 just holds a special place in my nostalgic heart). The not-being-able-to-trade was a technical issue as much as anything else. The fact you had to suck it in and collect them all again by playing FR/LG and Colosseum/XD (and to some extent, D/P) was a great way to ensure people continued to get engrossed in the games. I mean, it's not like your RBY or GSC team would even work in the new games, what with stat changes, natures and all the new 'mons. You're SUPPOSED to update your team from game to game.
I've had the "old team, new battle method" issue since I first started importing older Monsters. I had an absolutely sick Venusaur from Gen3, but due to the Physical/Special swap, most of its moves aren't as effective as it used to be. Added with a whole new plethora of moves it can learn, my Gen3 Venusaur is combatively outdated and not as fun to use. If nothing else, Pal Park has been great for filling out my PokéDex, which is a quest I only undertake once a Generation and I have yet to finish it this time around.
And again, Gen4 may not have a liek woah hueg amount of places to go, but the overworld is just freakin' enormous.  And it doesn't have fifteen different Surfing routes like Gen3 did, so it's a lot more fleshed out! The variety is nice and refreshing - what really tickled my pickle this generation was everything north of Route 218, where it was all snowy, and that route northeast of Solaceon where it always rained. Great times.
Um...less legendaries? Infact, I really wouldn't mind a lack of legendaries in the next gen.
I second both these notions; first, Fire Pokémon are prone to having the most interesting designs, and I'm sooo tired of Water-types...and the second, because Legendaries are boorish. Gen1 only had five, and three Gens later we're looking at...what, fourteen to sixteen? We don't need that many, especially when we start hitting bland designs like the Regis. (Despite the awesome punnage obtained via Reggie-Rock.) |
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Post by reeka on Jan 5, 2008 8:45:32 GMT -5
- Assuming that Giratina would be the mascot, Opal was a candidate name, since girasol is a kind of opal gem.
- This year, it was discovered that www.pokemonopal.com is a domain name reserved by Nintendo; it redirects you to a page at Nintendo.com
You're probably right with Giratina, but I just typed www.pokemonamethyst.com/ into the address bar and it redirected to the same page. I suppose it's possible that they're registering a few gemstone URLs for future games, but still. Dude it should be called Pokemon Peridot because of birthstone order. April: DiamondMay: Emerald June: Pearl (with irony the other birthstone for June is called "moonstone") July: RubyAugust: PeridotSeptember: SapphireOctober: OpalGoing by that logic, shouldn't it be the gemstone two months before Diamond? Which, by an odd coincidence, is Amethyst. XD |
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Post by NinjaRygar on Jan 5, 2008 9:08:17 GMT -5
Tei, something happened to me and my Crobat.
It ruled in Gen3 and got butchered in Gen4 once Sludge Bomb became a special attack.
I didn't like alot of the monsters from Gen2 either. With the exception of Wobbuffet, and a few others, I really just didn't like the designs. Walking sunflowers and cows? I wasn't interested.
Generation 3 had really weird ones, but alot of my favorites were introduced in that generation.
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Post by Johans Nidorino on Jan 5, 2008 14:12:44 GMT -5
Dude it should be called Pokemon Peridot because of birthstone order. April: DiamondMay: Emerald June: Pearl (with irony the other birthstone for June is called "moonstone") July: RubyAugust: PeridotSeptember: SapphireOctober: OpalGoing by that logic, shouldn't it be the gemstone two months before Diamond? Which, by an odd coincidence, is Amethyst. XD Hmm, that's a good find. The morphology of "Amethyst" is somewhat weird, though. And the clues for Opal aren't so vague if you consider them together. What if a third version is the one that will take us back to Johto? Perhaps Snowpoint/Canalave and Olivine will be connected. Johto has always been seen connected to Kanto, so if Kanto won't appear, they'd have to come up with a good reason for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2008 16:48:41 GMT -5
They could alternatively come up with no reason and still not use Johto. Not to be a naysayer or anything, but it's something worth keeping in mind, especially as Nintendo can do whatever they damn well please with the areas from the games. XD
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Post by TV Eye on Apr 1, 2008 22:37:39 GMT -5
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And it doesn't have fifteen different Surfing routes like Gen3 did, so it's a lot more fleshed out! The variety is nice and refreshing - what really tickled my pickle this generation was everything north of Route 218, where it was all snowy, and that route northeast of Solaceon where it always rained. Great times.