I found some StarTropics cameos

[Manspeed]

His face looks pretty damn similar to the Zoda in the games, and from what I understand his outfit looks a lot like the one from the anime:



For the record, here's Ryu and his resemblence to Mike:

[Fryguy64]

They look about as similar as Mario and Donkey Kong

And their outfits are nothing alike either. Trust me... I've looked into this.

[goombaking]

admin said:

I really hope you're joking. It looks sod all like F-Zero Zoda.

Sure he's a head, but look:
1) Both have small eyes with no pupils
2) The head shapes are similar and the nose and mouth are nearly identical, complete with sharp teeth in both Zodas
3) Both have large hands with claws
Of course, F-Zero Zoda has a body, but all of the racers were made to be humanoid.

[Da Robot]

goombaking said:

admin said:

I really hope you're joking. It looks sod all like F-Zero Zoda.

Sure he's a head, but look:
1) Both have small eyes with no pupils
2) The head shapes are similar and the nose and mouth are nearly identical, complete with sharp teeth in both Zodas
3) Both have large hands with claws
Of course, F-Zero Zoda has a body, but all of the racers were made to be humanoid.

Shouldn't you be using Zoda's true form, Zoda Prime Invader instead of Zoda manifest.





Also after beating ST on VC just this week, I decided to find if the Nester cameo was actually in the game. It is, and here is a photo to prove it.

i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/someimages/DSCF8169.jpg


Also a slight question could Octo the Huge be considered a cameo for a Zelda Octorok? I would think not, but my Zelda game experiences do not have anything from the NES.

[The Qu]

Fry has went over this probably a thousand times by now: Octoroks are generic representations of the traditional Japanese depictions of octopi.

[Spud]

Yeah Ball shaped Octi's Snowmen with buckets Aliens with a name that sounds like Yoda, there all generic.

[Deleted]

This is creepy.

[Fryguy64]

spud said:

Yeah Ball shaped Octi's Snowmen with buckets Aliens with a name that sounds like Yoda, there all generic.

Well, I believe the Zoda thing is just a coincidence. The octopii and snowmen are just standard Japanese depictions of things (the Gyroids from Animal Crossing are the same - if they show up elsewhere they're not AC cameos). It's just because us in the west don't draw round, red octopii or use buckets for snowmen hats.

[Nester the Lark]

admin said:

Well, I believe the Zoda thing is just a coincidence.

I mentioned this before, but Zoda is, in fact, a real name. It's just that, for me, it's an unusual enough name that the implication by its presence is too obvious to ignore. But at this point, it could go either way, and the debate is pretty much exhausted.

My one question, though, is do you dismiss it so easily because Zoda, the StarTropics character, is fairly obscure in the Nintendo universe? For instance, if his name was instead Ridley, would it be any different?

[Fryguy64]

It's largely down to the fact I don't believe any game made in Japan is ever going to reference Star Tropics - an IRD-developed, America-only game. Nintendo's very Japan-focused like that.

The Ridley thing kinda wouldn't work - as we're talking about games referencing Star Tropics rather than the other way round. But I get your point. If Zoda was called, I dunno, Pikmin... no, I still wouldn't believe that the Pikmin game was directly referencing the villain in Star Tropics.

[Nester the Lark]

admin said:

The Ridley thing kinda wouldn't work - as we're talking about games referencing Star Tropics rather than the other way round. But I get your point. If Zoda was called, I dunno, Pikmin... no, I still wouldn't believe that the Pikmin game was directly referencing the villain in Star Tropics.

I phrased that poorly. What I meant was, if the F-Zero Zoda were named Ridley, and all else being equal, would it count as a Metroid reference, or would it simply be coincidence by the same standards? (Ridley is also a real name.)

[The Qu]

coreywoods said:

admin said:

The Ridley thing kinda wouldn't work - as we're talking about games referencing Star Tropics rather than the other way round. But I get your point. If Zoda was called, I dunno, Pikmin... no, I still wouldn't believe that the Pikmin game was directly referencing the villain in Star Tropics.

I phrased that poorly. What I meant was, if the F-Zero Zoda were named Ridley, and all else being equal, would it count as a Metroid reference, or would it simply be coincidence by the same standards? (Ridley is also a real name.)

Ridley is also named after film director Ridley Scott, director of Alien. So that is a rather poor example.
That said, I do consider Zoda a cameo as it's an obscure name. I can't imagine them coming up with the two independently of each other.

[Fryguy64]

coreywoods said:

I phrased that poorly. What I meant was, if the F-Zero Zoda were named Ridley, and all else being equal, would it count as a Metroid reference, or would it simply be coincidence by the same standards? (Ridley is also a real name.)

I don't think I would, not without something more concrete.

[goombaking]

I don't understand where your evidence that Nintendo is Japan-focused comes from. Sure most of their cameos are from games released in Japan, but that's just because most of their games are released in Japan. StarTropics is a rare counterexample.

[Fryguy64]

Except it isn't! It isn't a counter-example at all! Because Zoda looks fuck all like Zoda!

Where's my evidence? Please... Why do you think I was so shocked that a couple of SSBB stickers show Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters? Because it's the FIRST EVER reference to an America-only game EVER shown in a Nintendo Japan release.

FIRST EVER!