NinDB - Errors and Omissions

[Fryguy64]

(There's something I would have said about ANN SMB, but I'll see if a certain third party would allow me to reveal that.)

With 700 pages, I expected a few holes... And that's why I unleashed YL on it a couple of days early . He did spot the ANN Super Mario Bros. mistake, to be fair to him... And I forgot to fix it

The SNES photo is from here, right? You have to annote the photographer (Sandos) and the free license, either GNU-FDL or CC Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported. Well, that's how free content works.

Hang on... How do you know the photographer is Sandos? Sandos is simply the user who uploaded the photo for all I can tell... and clicking on his user page, he doesn't sound like a professional technology photographer.

And actually, I found it on a different website by Googling "SNES".

You seem to have a strange understanding of what "fair use" means... particularly with picking that ONE image on NinDB out. All of the images on NinDB aren't "fair use", except for the layout bits. Similarly, all of the images on all of the gaming fansites you've ever read aren't "fair use".

And that one SNES image? I'd wager that's not fair use, covered by the GNU or property of the guy who uploaded it.

It was spelled Kuru Kuru Kururin in Brawl, but I know that it was Kurukuru in the European manual. Well, what's correct now?

Well, its Japanese name is Kurukuru Kururin, and the only English manual called it Kurukuru Kururin. And "Kurukuru" is a word (kinda). So It's Kurukuru Kururin.

[Grandy02]

Aug 15, 2009 14:03:15 GMT -5 Fryguy64 said:

Hang on... How do you know the photographer is Sandos? Sandos is simply the user who uploaded the photo for all I can tell... and clicking on his user page, he doesn't sound like a professional technology photographer.

And actually, I found it on a different website by Googling "SNES".

You seem to have a strange understanding of what "fair use" means... particularly with picking that ONE image on NinDB out. All of the images on NinDB aren't "fair use", except for the layout bits. Similarly, all of the images on all of the gaming fansites you've ever read aren't "fair use".

And that one SNES image? I'd wager that's not fair use, covered by the GNU or property of the guy who uploaded it.

It's actually not about fair use in this case, that image was uploaded under a free license. Well, the user Sandos who originally uploaded the image (it was later uploaded to the Commons by someone called Holek) claims that he made the photograph. Seeing that the image is several years old and widely used at Wikipedia in many languages, I don't think that it was stolen, they would have deleted it otherwise. That you found it on another website is no wonder, people take a lot of images from Wikipedia without attribution.

The licenses of the image say that one has to give attribution to the photographer. Yes, I don't know if Sandos stole it or not, same goes for other images at Wikipedia.

Other minor stuff:
nindb.net/punch-out_series.html
Wrong release year for the Wii version.

nindb.net/tingles-rosy-rupeeland.html
Lacks the hyphen for "Freshly-Picked", there's no hyphen for "Rosy Rupeeland".

nindb.net/super-mario-rpg.html
Lacks Japanese title (Super Mario RPG).

[Wildcat]

The FAQ page:

Where can I get ROMs of Nintendo games?
I'm sure you're all aware of this by now, but supplying ROMs of games is an act of copyright infringement, and is punishable by national and international copyright law. Providing information about game ROMs or supplying them is also in contravention of Gamespy server rules, and could have Nintendo Database kicked off the web.

So don't ask.

Highlighted the problem. Damn Gamespy and its hats!

Secondly, the FAQ page refers to the site as Nintendo Database an awful lot.

[nocturnal YL]

Fryguy64 summons YL!
Error takes 162 damage!
Fryguy64's attack rises by 73.

Actually, Fry contacted me a few days earlier before this site got publicized. I did pick out about 20 errors (which is a lot, considering they are mostly from the old site and I already annoyed Fry all over back then.) Of course, I couldn't cover everything, considering I give a whole lot of games (especially otherwise-popular ones like Zelda and Pokémon games) a miss.

The FAQ does need to be updated, yeah.

[Fryguy64]

Started working through these corrections. I have no doubt there will be more, as I was working to a tight deadline. I'm actually surprised there's so few so far.

The Site FAQ wasn't touched... I basically just uploaded the old one verbatim as one of the last things I did (similarly ANN Super Mario Bros. was one of the last pages uploaded too, as it had somehow ended up lost in the ether with no other page linking to it).

[Grandy02]

Here's more:

nindb.net/yoshis-safari.html
Hm, now that I see that the date from Nintendo.fi is the same as the Japanese one... doesn't seem that likely, but it's up to you.

www.nindb.net/search-series.html
I wonder why the Art Style / bit Generations games appear both under "Individual Games" and "Series"? Haven't noticed this for any other series.

www.nindb.net/tingles-balloon-fight.html
The full title is Tingle's Balloon Fight DS (both on proper box art and title screen).

www.nindb.net/banjo-kazooie_series.html
In both game pages, the Japanese release appears first in the table, even if the US one was always the first (and also the Euro release in case of the first game).

www.nindb.net/donkey-konga-3.html
Developer and genre are just "abc"...

www.nindb.net/dk-jungle-climber.html
www.nindb.net/donkey-kong_series.html
Japanese and European title is Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber. In the Donkey Kong series list, the game appears under this title rather than just DK: Jungle Climber.

www.nindb.net/dk-king-of-swing.html
Japan flag for Japanese title is missing.

www.nindb.net/donkey-konga-2.html
Japanese version is fully known as Donkey Konga 2: Hit Song Parade.

www.nindb.net/super-mario-strikers.html
Euro release was first, but is second in the list.

www.nindb.net/warioware-inc.html
"Mega Microgames" needs an !.

What I've noticed very often: The alternate text of many images don't fit the image (example: www.nindb.net/cheer-squad_series.html Image's alt. text calls the Agents "Dr. Kawashima in Brain Age"). But I don't know how much you care about that.

By the way, where did you find all the Nintendo Power release dates? I've been looking for those.

[nocturnal YL]

LOL, "Spinning Donkey".

Tingle's Balloon Fight DS: club.nintendo.jp/member/exec/entranceNaviPrivilege Scroll to the bottom. I dunno... the boxart doesn't show "DS"...

LOL @ Donkey Konga 3. It happened before elsewhere (in the original Mahjong page, now fixed).

Do you still do pure HTML editing, Fry? If you do, I'd suggest using some specialized text editor, not the simple NOTEPAD.EXE, if you're not color-blind (honestly, color blindness is something I can't tell by just talking).

[Grandy02]

Aug 16, 2009 6:26:17 GMT -5 nocturnal YL said:

Tingle's Balloon Fight DS: club.nintendo.jp/member/exec/entranceNaviPrivilege Scroll to the bottom. I dunno... the boxart doesn't show "DS"...

Indeed, and there's even another "alternate" box art with the title spelled in English. But here's what the package and title screen actually look like:
uk.media.ds.ign.com/media/901/901595/imgs_1.html

[nocturnal YL]

Aug 16, 2009 6:36:33 GMT -5 Grandy02 said:

Indeed, and there's even another "alternate" box art with the title spelled in English.

You mean the one that looks like the Faimcom version with Tingle's name pasted on it?

[Fryguy64]

I wonder why the Art Style / bit Generations games appear both under "Individual Games" and "Series"? Haven't noticed this for any other series.

The Art Style / bit Generations series is unusual in that each game is an individual standalone entry, but the Art Style series is a worldwide series that is just as likely to be searched. There are no other games that fall into the same category.

The only other series that could potentially fall under this is "DS Training", but because there are more standalone series (Brain Age, English Training) under that banner, I decided to keep them separate.

What I've noticed very often: The alternate text of many images don't fit the image (example: www.nindb.net/cheer-squad_series.html Image's alt. text calls the Agents "Dr. Kawashima in Brain Age"). But I don't know you much you care about that.

Yep, I still need to check all the alt tage and title tags, as I'm aware some of them have suffered from copy-pasta.

By the way, where did you find all the Nintendo Power release dates? I've been looking for those.

I've had them archived for years from back when Nintendo had them on its website.

Do you still do pure HTML editing, Fry? If you do, I'd suggest using some specialized text editor, not the simple NOTEPAD.EXE, if you're not color-blind (honestly, color blindness is something I can't tell by just talking).

I've been using Dreamweaver for a couple of years.

[Grandy02]

Aug 16, 2009 6:57:10 GMT -5 nocturnal YL said:

Aug 16, 2009 6:36:33 GMT -5 Grandy02 said:

Indeed, and there's even another "alternate" box art with the title spelled in English.

You mean the one that looks like the Faimcom version with Tingle's name pasted on it?

media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/29679/1029931-tingle_s_balloon_fight_super.jpg

Exactly.

[Nester the Lark]

Fry, are you sure the Site FAQ is up to date? Surely you must've gotten tons of emails asking "What happened to the 3PS?" or "Why doesn't that cool guy Nester write for the site anymore?"

[Grandy02]

www.nindb.net/sheriff.html
According to these arcade flyers, the game was also released in Europe.

EDIT: 600th post!

[nocturnal YL]

Aug 16, 2009 14:49:00 GMT -5 Nester the Lark said:

Fry, are you sure the Site FAQ is up to date? Surely you must've gotten tons of emails asking "What happened to the 3PS?" or "Why doesn't that cool guy Nester write for the site anymore?"

All written by Nester. =P

[Fryguy64]

Aug 16, 2009 16:13:56 GMT -5 Grandy02 said:

www.nindb.net/sheriff.html
According to these arcade flyers, the game was also released in Europe.

EDIT: 600th post!

Umm... I understand that the flyer is in English... but where did that site get the idea that the flyer was for Europe? SSBM listed Sheriff as Japan Only over here as well...

I expect that's just a Japanese flyer written in English. That happened sometimes.

Fry, are you sure the Site FAQ is up to date? Surely you must've gotten tons of emails asking "What happened to the 3PS?" or "Why doesn't that cool guy Nester write for the site anymore?"

Yes, I got tons of emails about it. All from some guy called "Corey Woods", whoever that may be

Seriously though, aside from these forums, I only had one guy email me in the past year asking what was happening with the entire site. And that guy used to email me every week complaining that I hadn't added the latest releases...

That made me a bit sad