Wii music

[jaken23]

Oct 20, 2008 5:05:34 GMT -5 Dances in Undergarments said:

Thing still isn't a game though.

From the back of the jpn box (tl);

"...a thing that can't be called neither a game nor a musical instrument" - Miyamoto Shigeru

I played a bit, it's been fun so far.

[Justin Bailey]

So besides the few people who admit on getting it, who else is going to get it? =p

I'm getting it just for my collection, and play the Mario and Zelda theme. Pretty much the same reason I got Donkey Konga.

As for the discussion about weather it's a game or not, can we call it a toy...despite the fact games ARE toys.

[Grandy02]

Oct 23, 2008 9:13:06 GMT -5 Justin Bailey said:

...despite the fact games ARE toys.

"They're NOT DOLLS! They're ACTION FIGURES!"
--Francis, Super Paper Mario

[BeamClaws]

The same type of thing happened in The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. He was playing with action figures and carlton called them dolls.

And games aren't toys anymore. They are a form of art and entertainment and can compete on the same level with movies, plays and even books.

[Justin Bailey]

Oct 23, 2008 9:49:05 GMT -5 Grandy02 said:

Oct 23, 2008 9:13:06 GMT -5 Justin Bailey said:

...despite the fact games ARE toys.

"They're NOT DOLLS! They're ACTION FIGURES!"
--Francis, Super Paper Mario

I stand corrected. =D

Well I do believe games have evolved to the point or even beyond the medium of movies, plays, and books. =D

But does this make Wii Music a toy since according to the quote it can't be called a game or a musical instrument.

Either-way, I'm having fun playing the Mario theme. =D

[BeamClaws]

Your having fun just shaking your wiimote?

[Fryguy64]

Oct 25, 2008 12:25:18 GMT -5 BeamClaws said:

Your having fun just shaking your wiimote?

Dude - have you played Wii Music? You have made this giant assumption without giving it a go (which is OK I guess - we all do that)... But now you're having a go at people who HAVE played the game based entirely on your assumption.

That's is fucking retarded. Please don't post in this topic again until you've played the game.

[Smashchu]

I smell core in this thread.

I will say this: the game is pretty freaking fun. Again, it's not meant to be played like Rock Band so you will get board easily if you just try to hit a bunch of note. It's really about mixing it up and making a whole bunch of songs.

That being said, if you have no interest in making music, then don't bother with it.

[Captain Walrus]

But you can't MAKE music, can you? Could I get Wii Music to play the theme to Jurassic Park?

It'd be a lot more fun if they allowed you to compose and/or arrange music with all the instruments they have, instead of just conducting or playing an instrument in a pre-existing song.

[Smashchu]

Oct 26, 2008 23:44:48 GMT -5 Captain Walrus said:

But you can't MAKE music, can you? Could I get Wii Music to play the theme to Jurassic Park?

It'd be a lot more fun if they allowed you to compose and/or arrange music with all the instruments they have, instead of just conducting or playing an instrument in a pre-existing song.

True. The problem is the software has to sacrifice something in order to stay simple.

You could do software hacks pretty easily and put what ever you want, but I doubt Wii Music will have a big mod community.

[Da Robot]

This is interesting, after in a Wii Music interview with Miyamoto, when asked about IGN low review score, Miyamoto immediately assumed it was Matt Casamassina who reviewed the game and that he is a core gamer who didn't like the game. Now that's just amazing

Source.


From MTV Multiplayer

I wanted to ask you about the reception that “Wii Music” has had. And you alluded, before, to the fact that this is a bit of a different kind of game to present to people. You said you mention to the [public relations] team to describe this as a musical instrument. Obviously, there’s a challenge in presenting “Wii Music.” If you don’t get to play it yourself, it can be confusing as to what it is. It’s reached a point where, coming out of E3, talking to other gamers who were there, and talking to other gaming reporters who were there, that I got the sense there are people who used to love everything that you made. And some of those people now have a tough time getting excited about a “Wii Music.” IGN, which is a hugely popular website in the United States, they’ve seemingly loved every game that you’ve been involved in. Very high review scores. And on their 10-point scale, they gave “Wii Music” a five.

I’m wondering to what extent you are aware that there do seem to be some Miyamoto fans who are having this trouble getting as excited about your work as they used to? And how does that affect you and the work that you’re doing?

From Miyamoto

There’s two ways I can talk about that. One is, I think — you point out the IGN review in particular. And my guess is that rather than it being an instance that the individual who wrote that — I’m not sure if it was Matt [Casamassina, IGN's Wii editor] or not — but whoever wrote that review, I think that the perception is because they’re a core gamer they don’t like “Wii Music.” And, in fact, what I think is that the ideas behind “Wii Music” simply didn’t resonate with that individual. [Note from Stephen: Casamassina did indeed write the review.] I don’t think it was a case of: because they like games, they don’t like “Wii Music.” That person simply didn’t like what we presented in “Wii Music.”

I think the other thing to us that’s very important is there’s two things. Number one is that we continue to work on the same types of games that we have made for many, many years. Beyond that, we have branched out and we are creating additional products aside from those that, like “Wii Music” and like “Wii Fit” are very different in tyle and have a very broad appeal. The way that our teams work, as I mentioned earlier, is that a lot of the team members, let’s say for example from a “Mario” or a “Zelda” team, will swap in and out among different teams. And so I think internally for us, the ability to have people who have been working on the same game for many, many years and to be able to take a break from it and work on a product like “Wii Music,” where they’re able to look at design from a different perspective and broaden their own perspective in terms of the types of things that you can do in interactive entertainment [is good.]. Then, I think, when they go back and take that experience with them back to the other teams, back to, say the “Zelda” team or the “Mario” team, when they’re working on those franchises, they’re going to be able to draw on that experience to create experiences that not only are broader-appealing for those franchises but also are bringing in new ideas that are going to appeal to people who have been very familiar with those franchises for a long time.

[TV Eye]

I think it's interesting that Miyamoto mentions the "Mario Teams" and the "Zelda Teams" like that's what we really want, but it's not. Us gamers want Miyamoto to make new games that are as awesome as Mario and Zelda, and not as not awesome as Wii Music or Wii Fit.

We need more games like Pikmin, Metroid, Kid Icarus, F-Zero, Earthbound, and I could freaking go on.

We already have 1 Mario platformer on the Wii. We have 1 epic Zelda for the Wii. We have millions of crappy games with "Wii" in the title, but we are still missing hundreds of other Nintendo series that would work perfectly on the Wii. Miyamoto gets all pissy because he thinks we just want another Mario or Zelda, and it pisses me off that he doesn't listen to know that we just want our Miyamoto back. Not the casual-gamers-who-couldn't-give-a-crap's Miyamoto.

[Koopaul]

Makes me worry when he talks about developers bringing their new "experiences" to our beloved franchises... I mean what kind of an experience do you get when developing Wii Music? And bringing that attitude to Mario?

The problem is that Miyamoto thinks that gamers don't know what they want... But in fact we do.

[Yamato.EXE V2]

@tv eye

......True, I would like to see a new DKC Platformer for either Wii or DS unlike that of the King Of Swing + Jungle Climber.

[Da Robot]

Well one of Miyamoto's idea's for WiI Music is coming true, it's going to be used in schools now.




I heard from article (by teachers of music) that Wii Muisc isn't the most (musically) educational game but it does allow people to pick up a few skills and I'm heard the Miyamoto (and rest of the development team) that can now pick out the individual parts of a piece of music after playing Wii Music.