Pokemon Black & White

[Dances in Undergarments]

I'm pretty sure this is all as good as confirmed now with how many things they've gotten right.

Theres a motherfucking garbage bag Pokemon! And an Icecream Pokemon! Best gen since gen 1 confirmed.

[The Qu]

Wait.
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what? Where'd you hear about those two Pokemon?

[Koopaul]

I saw that Ice Cream Pokemon. God I'm so anxious to see them all!

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I always loved the goofy silly Pokemon from Gen 1. I'm glad to see them returning!

[Dances in Undergarments]

Sept 12, 2010 19:24:19 GMT -5 The Qu said:

Wait.
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what? Where'd you hear about those two Pokemon?

I shall tell you with my Super Amazing Cross-Forum Post Action!

Have you guys seen the leaked list of Pokemon, which is getting more and more confirmed with every bit of official information, so is pretty much confirmed to be right? He's posting descriptions and some fanart of some (apparently to avoid NDAs). Check the dude's twitter: twitter.com/pokexperto

There's a 3 stage Icecream Pokemon! And a garbage bag Pokemon! And a bug dress like a knight! And that last legendary, the bug/steel one, is a space robot bug with a laser on its back!

Best gen since gen 1 confirmed.

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494 Victini,
495 Tsutarja,
496-497 Tsutarja Evos,
498 Pokabu,
499-500 Pokabu Evos,
501 Mijumaru,
502-503 Mijumaru Evos
504 Minezumi,
505 Miruhoggu
506: A small dog-like Pokemon. Probably a breed of the Shih Tzu race: bit.ly/djWCxl (but with brown-golden hair).
507: Longer dog-like Pokémon, has same face but with mustache. Face and legs are golden, body is dark grey. Also a Normal type.
508: A dog-like Pokémon, resembles an adult Shih Tzu but with longer body. Long mustache and black-to-grey body bit.ly/9diX5S
509: A cat-like Pokémon with a somewhat suspicious look. Dark Type. See Fanart by Hiro: bit.ly/dyX6SM
510: A panther Pokémon. Most of its body is purple, but legs, head and body marks are light brown. Very elegant and slender. dark type.
511: Yanappu.
512: Yanappu Evo, same design but bigger, with an Elvis forelock, more hair and arrogant pose. Also a pure Grass type.
513: Baoppu. Fire Type monkey. Orange body with a flame-style hair and tail. It has a sleepy face.
514: Baoppu Evo. Fire Type monkey. It is fatter than Grass one, and seems confused. Tail and hair have flames. Redorange color
515: Hiyappu. A Water Type monkey. It's cheerful and has fountain-shaped hair. Light blue color.
516: Hiyappu Evo. Water Type monkey. The most sociable of all these monkeys, it has somewhat rasta hair style. Light blue color.
517: Munna,
518: Musharna,
519: Mamepato,
520: Hatoopoo (also Normal / Flying).
521: Mamepato 3rd Evo. Typical bird Pokémon with an arrogant pose, resembles a pigeon. Same colors, but brown chest. Normal/Flying Type. Oh, btw, 521 has an alternative Forme. Still a pigeon, same pose, but with a pink mask, maybe a Spring Forme or somewhat.
522: Shimama.
523 Shimama Evo. Still a zebra: bigger, fiercer, more white stripes and hair. Still Electric Type
524, 525, 526 -- not mentioned
527: Koromori.
528: Koromori Evo. A bat Pokémon with blue body and white fur. It maintains heart-shaped eyes but adds a hook tail.
529: Moguryuu,
530: Doryuuzu,
531 Tabunne
532: A Fighting Type guy with a wooden plank. See image: yfrog.com/mzkn7p
533: Fighting Type guy with an iron girder. It is stronger that its pre-evo and has a clown nose.
534: Fighting Type guy with a concrete block on each hand. It got huge and badass in the process. The clown nose is not funny anymore
535: A small tadpole. No arms, no legs, only a blue tail. Also two blue protuberances each side of its head. Pure Water Type yfrog.com/2dwsrp
536: A bigger tadpole. Has developed legs, still no arms. Blue color, white tail. Three protuberances from head, four from body. Water/Ground
537: A big frog, full with protuberances in head, arms and legs. No more tail. Its very big and has kinda mafia pose. Water/Ground (Weyard has kindly drawn the 537 Frog Pokémon for you. Actual pose is different, but it's a good try: bit.ly/apFLe6)
538: Judo Pokémon, appeared on musical (http://dlvr.it/4bfls). Kimono stays. Rocky red skin, big eyebrows and nose. Pure Fighting Type.
539: Judo Pokémon. Taller and thinner than pre-evo, with rocky blue skin and kimono. Big nose and eyebrow (yes, only one).
540: Kurumiru.
541: Kurumiru Evo. The leaf grows and covers the Pokémon as a cocoon. Only eyes and mouth can be seen. Bug / Grass Type.
542: A Leaf Insect Pokémon, a Phylliidae (http://bit.ly/atUO9q). Stands on two legs, with a leaf skirt and arms. Head is like Kurumiru's.
543. Bicho/Veneno (Bug/Poison). yfrog.com/7f2qsp
544: A round cocoon with an eye on each side. All covered in spikes, 4 larger and 8 shorter. Ugliest one on Dex. Bug / Poison Type.
545: Scolopendra Pokémon (http://bit.ly/cYSqJk). Silhouette here: bit.ly/asjnsT Color like first pre-evo. Bug / Poison Type.
546: Pure Grass cloud Pokémon. Fanart by Hiro: bit.ly/ajqFca
547: Cloud Pokémon. Still deciding whether its a sheep or not. Fanart by Hiro: bit.ly/aMOp2r Oh, pure Grass
548: Pure Grass Pokémon seen at Pokémon Daycare. Fanart by Hiro: bit.ly/c1EUHa
549: Grass Lady Pokémon. She wears a flower hat with crown. Big leaf on the back. Her dress is a leaf bulb, with 2 dark green leaves as arms
550: Basurao. Two Formes. One is green with red stripe and eyes, other with blue stripe and eyes. Second seems more aggresive. Water Type
551: Meguroko.
552: Meguroko Evo. Very similar in design, but bigger, fatter and standing on two legs. Has spikes on the back. Ground/Dark
553: Meguroko 2nd Evo. Even bigger and fatter, it now looks fiercer and has turned red color (maybe gender difference?). Ground/Dark Type.
554: Darumakka (it has tiny arms and legs, Fire Type),
555 Hihidaruma. Hihidaruma has alternative Forme (Fire/Psychic) bit.ly/cg8TmB
556: Dancing Cactus Pokémon. It has yellow eyes and spikes, and two pink flowers sprouting from the head. Two arms, no feet. Pure Grass.
557: A Hermit Crab Pokémon. Basically a crab with a big rock covering its back. Bug / Rock Type.
558: A Hermit Crab Pokémon. The crab is holding a giant cube rock that is like 5 times its size. Bug / Rock Type
559: Dark / Fighting guy || Un tipo Siniestro / Lucha || Fanart de Hiro bit.ly/9RNtTI
560: Dark / Fighting guy. Similar design to previous one, but orange head, with red crest. Has a hood at the back with pre-evo head, scary.
561: A Flying Mask Pokémon, seems aegyptian. Only one eye, two golden wings without feathers. Very strange. Psychic / Flying Type.
562: Desukan Pre-Evo. Floating black body with two big red eyes and big arms. Holds a human mask at the bottom. Pure Ghost.
563: Desukan. Pure Ghost (Fantasma). Ver en scans Coro Coro: dlvr.it/53r5V
564: Archelon Fossil Pokémon. Blue body and grey shell. Amazing design. Water / Rock Type. See images here: bit.ly/bnTsmz
565: Archelon Fossil Pokémon. Bigger body, stands on two legs and has an armor/shell of rock. Bulky Water candidate? Water / Rock Type
566: Archaeopteryx Fossil Pokémon. A Rock / Flying bird with yellow, red and blue feathers. See image here: bit.ly/9OGGSH
567: Archaeopteryx Fossil Pokémon. The bird has become bigger and fiercer. Its head is now green/red coloured. Rock / Flying Type.
568: Garbage Bag Pokémon. A green garbage bag with eyes. Its arms are formed of grey dirt coming out from the bag. Pure Poison Type.
569: Garbage Bag Pokémon. The garbage has grown a lot and thus half the body is grey dirt. Very amorphous. Pure Poison Type.
570 Zorua,
571 Zoroark,
572 Chillarmy,
573 Chillarmy Evo (Chillarmy + Long white scarf covering its body, Normal Type)
574: Emo Baby Pokémon. Gochiruzeru Pre Pre Evo. A baby with big purple head and great blue eyes. Similar design. Pure Psychic Type.
575: Emo Girl Pokémon. Gochiruzeru Pre Evo. A little girl with two ponytails, but very similar to Gochiruzeru. Psychic Type.
576 Gochirizeru
577: Cell Pokémon. Rankurusu Pre Pre Evo. Basically a white nucleus with eyes and nose, surrounded by green jelly. Pure Psychic Type.
578: Cell Pokémon. Rankurusu Pre Evo. Now the cell has developed tiny arms, and more green jelly. Pure Psychic Type.
579: Rankurusu
580: Blue Swan Pokémon. Swana Pre Evo. Basically a breed of swan, in blue color. Water / Flying Type.
581: Swana.
582: Ice Cream Ball Pokémon. A white/blue ice cream ball with tiny body, almost like a baby. Pure Ice Type.
583: Ice Cream Pokémon. Pure Ice Type. Fanart by Hiro: bit.ly/9Mo2aC
584: Double Ice Cream Pokémon (one cone, two balls). Also Ice.
585: Shikijika;
586: Mebukijika;
587: Emonga.
588: New Bug Pokémon. Pure Bug Type. Fanart by Hiro: bit.ly/a9XvFb
589: Knight Bug Pokémon. A knight with an armor, spears and helmet. Main body is based on previous bug. Bug / Steel Type.
590: Tamagetake.
591: Tamagetake Evo. A Mushroom Pokémon with a pink PokéBall design, and two smaller Poké Ball as hands. Grass/Poison Type.
592: Jellyfish Pokémon. Round blue head with 5 tentacles. Water / Ghost Type. Has another Forme, pink color and different tentacles.
593: Jellyfish Pokémon. Also Water / Ghost Type. Fanart by Hiro: bit.ly/aySrz8
594: Mamanboo (No. 100 at Isshu PokéDex).
595: Denchura Pre Evo, Bug / Electric Type (Fanart by Hiro: bit.ly/bXbvus).
596: Denchura.
597: Iron Ball Pokémon. Grass / Steel Type. Hiro's Fanart: bit.ly/cz8z9Q

Oh, oh, oh, and

584: Double Ice Cream Pokémon (one cone, two balls). Also Ice.

[The Qu]

Kick ass, man. Rep for you.

I think the jellyfish is actually a man o war. Makes sense to me. And I'm so glad to get an Archeopteryx. When RS was first shown off, they showed Sceptile, and that's what I figured it was. I was totally dissapointed. This generation also looks like it will give a boost to the PokeOrigin topic.

[Shrikeswind]

Sept 12, 2010 18:21:00 GMT -5 Shadrio said:

Sept 12, 2010 4:31:31 GMT -5 kirbychu said:

If I remember correctly there is a certain kind of snake which is born with limbs and loses them as it grows. So that at least isn't so crazy.

Well, The Bible's Snake of the Garden of Eden could be another inspiration, since it does have legs and then God smites it to losing it's legs. Also, the snake was considered sinister, and there were speculations in the beginning that Tsutaja was going to become Grass/Dark.

But still, it's just some fan flailing. Don't think too much about it.

Holy shit, a Bible reference I missed!? I'm slippin'!

[The Qu]

Also, Smugleaf is probably the Western influenced starter- Pignition is Chinese, and Wotter is Japanese, so that leaves Smugleaf with only one choice.

[Johans Nidorino]

Sept 12, 2010 23:24:29 GMT -5 The Qu said:

Also, Smugleaf is probably the Western influenced starter- Pignition is Chinese, and Wotter is Japanese, so that leaves Smugleaf with only one choice.

That was explicit in the Pokémon Peer interview. This is the excerpt that culminates with the ambiguity on how would the otter look in the end.

Ohmura: There was also talk this time about dividing the three starters into Japanese, Western, and Chinese styles of design. Tsutarja was based on Western design, and Pokabu was rooted in a Chinese style, so I was told, "Let's make Mijumaru into a more Japanese-style design." Someone even asked, "Can't you make Mijumaru into a samurai?" [laughs]

Everyone: [laughs]

Sugimori: I worried about it for a while, and I eventually went to go see the sea otters at the aquarium. I happened to catch the sea lion show while I was there, and I became aware of the sea lion's power. "Well, let's try blending a sea otter and a sea lion," I thought. I came up with the idea of making the shell on Mijumaru's stomach into a sword (katana) and using it to fight, and that's how I completed Mijumaru and its evolution."

[8bitretroshit]

I hope you encounter icecream mon by chance when checking out some NPC's fridge.

Apparently Japan's release is less then a week away. With Pokefans being hardcore as they are they'll probably upload the ingame sprites within MINUTES. Can't wait to see the full list of oddballs.

[Johans Nidorino]

Last generation, it was 2 days before the official release when Arty2 of Legendary Pokémon ripped the menu sprites. This time it's obvious one or more people in the world already got access to them given the fanarts that Pokéxperto has published. Maybe we'll get to see sprites anytime within this week.

[The Qu]

3 days, actually. And it's inevitable we'll get a true leak a day or so before that.

In other news the spiked ball Pokemon DiU showed off in that list may be based on a durian, as someone on Bulbapedia suggested. I sincerly hope it is- just to see more bizarre love for an ungodly fruit.

Rumors on Bulbapedia are also saying there is a fire anteater, that the ghost/fire Pokemon are a candle/lantern/candelabra family and that there is a psychic type 2 stage alien family. I can see all of these being true.

[8bitretroshit]

new leaked slowpoke evolution

[The Qu]

Apparently, the fighting trio is based off of-get this- the Three Musketeers by Alexander Dumas!

Steel/Fighting - Athos. Brave Pokemon. Blue with yellow horns.
Rock/Fighting - Porthos. Corpulent Pokemon. Grey and very robust. almost a bull.
Grass/Fighting - Aramis. Elegant Pokemon. Green and stylish. Shiny version is completely pink.

AND another Legendary is connected to the Musketeers!
The feminine Normal/Psychic Event Pokemon with an alternate Normal/Fighting Forme is the Constant Melody Pokemon. Equivalent to Constanza, Dartacan's financé. The original forme has a music sheet green hair (?) and the alternate has it tucked like an orange turban. In both formes it has a black dress.

Other random stuff:

Ghost/Fire is a Candle that evolves into a Lantern and then into a spider-shaped Sconce.

Ground electric fish based on a solaidae. Dark type Vulture 2 step.

[Johans Nidorino]

This is the latest stuff by Pokéxperto; no artworks yet though.

598: Steel Platform Pokémon. A spiky steel platform with three grass arms going up and ending in steel maces. Grass / Steel Type.

599: Gear. 600: Gear + Another big gear behind. 601: Gear + Big gear behind + Small gear at bottom + Platform. No Brainer Pokemon of V Gen.

602: Small Fish, white color. 603: Small Lamprey Pokémon. 604 Big Lamprey Pokémon. Green/Blue color and round mouth. All Pure Electric Type.

#598 is evolved form of the spiky ball I guess.

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Sept 12, 2010 9:43:25 GMT -5 Johans Nidorino said:

Sept 12, 2010 4:31:31 GMT -5 kirbychu said:

Hmm. They have a point. Why would they be the only pages with a different numbering system?

To add to the evidence of both sides, this scan would be real following that logic, wouldn't it? And it contains the second pig.

(By the way, that page recommends picking the pig at the start of the game given that the second Gym Leader uses Normal-type Pokémon)

Sept 12, 2010 9:57:27 GMT -5 Shrikeswind said:

JUST the pig, though.

Shit no, niggaz. Nothing's gonna keep me from choosing Smugleaf ;D