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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 9:49:46 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I've really got nothing against Assault! I think it's a solid entry into the franchise, but it still feels...average. I agree with you about the on-foot sections complimenting the arwing flight, and the soundtrack is ballin'...I just don't find it that remarkable.
It's worth noting that I did really like it back when it'd first come out, and my current opinion comes from having played through the game again like two months ago. Maybe it just hasn't aged too well, like games do. Sonic Adventure is a great example of this: I loved it way back when, and it was still The Last Great Sonic Game, but playing it now makes me cringe. (Though that's largely due to the technological restrictions of twelve years ago.)
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Post by 8bitretroshit on Apr 30, 2010 10:39:00 GMT -5
Assault's the game where Pigma and Leon were redesigned as uncool morons, therefor Assault is lame.
But I agree that the rearranged SF64 music is great
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Post by Flip on May 1, 2010 13:52:55 GMT -5
Assault's the game where Pigma and Leon were redesigned as uncool morons, therefor Assault is lame. But I agree that the rearranged SF64 music is great The design choices in Assault made me steer well clear of the game in all honesty. I'm very glad that Command AND Brawl both went back to a sort of "classic" look for the characters, because the choices in Assault were just... awful. Why is everybody so wirey and thin? And Leon worked far better as a snarky prick with a British accent than a strange high-pitched "I like to kill shit and then gaspingly laugh about it" character. Panther's a nice addition though, I will admit. And Command gets a big nod from me for reintroducing Katt and Bill. |
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Post by Koopaul on May 1, 2010 17:03:17 GMT -5
I never complained as much about the Star Fox series as everyone else did. True everything after SF64 wasn't as good, but I still enjoyed what I played. Even Adventures.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2010 10:11:32 GMT -5
Assault's the game where Pigma and Leon were redesigned as uncool morons, therefor Assault is lame. But I agree that the rearranged SF64 music is great The design choices in Assault made me steer well clear of the game in all honesty. I'm very glad that Command AND Brawl both went back to a sort of "classic" look for the characters, because the choices in Assault were just... awful. Why is everybody so wirey and thin? And Leon worked far better as a snarky prick with a British accent than a strange high-pitched "I like to kill shit and then gaspingly laugh about it" character. Panther's a nice addition though, I will admit. And Command gets a big nod from me for reintroducing Katt and Bill. I really dislike Assault's clothing. I'm not against renewing a character's wardrobe, but those designs were atrocious. But I liked the new Leon - listening to some of his dialog in Brawl is fantastic, especially that one he shares with Panther where he practically orgasms over the thought of torturing/being tortured by Wolf. |
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Post by Boo Destroyer on May 18, 2010 4:08:30 GMT -5
I never complained as much about the Star Fox series as everyone else did. True everything after SF64 wasn't as good, but I still enjoyed what I played. Even Adventures. Eh, I found Assault to be the best in the series. The on-foot parts really did it for me, though that's not saying I didn't enjoy the Arwing and Landmaster parts just as much. I donno about anyone else, but I thought the characters designs in Assault made them more distinctive from each other. Sure, some of them could use less wonky-izing, but it still beats the boring exact same uniforms all at once. I still maintain though, that we'd have a better chance for another game in this series now if only Command didn't screw everything up. But whatever this is gonna be, it should surely be something else for the series; a better turn for it, so to speak. On a half-related note, listen to Man-Frog well when he feels bad for the fate of the F-Zero series. Despite Falcon's popularity somehow, F-Zero as a series is pronounced motherfucking dead (at least at this rate). Really, if you try to tell most people about any non-Falcon character in the series, they'll WTF like they've never WTF'd before. |
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Post by Shrikeswind on May 18, 2010 14:25:47 GMT -5
I believe I read somewhere they wouldn't go for any of those alternate endings and would pick up somewhere in the middle of Command or make a new ending or something to that effect if they make a sequel. I can't remember WHERE I read this, though. On a half-related note, listen to Man-Frog well when he feels bad for the fate of the F-Zero series. Despite Falcon's popularity somehow, F-Zero as a series is pronounced motherfucking dead (at least at this rate). Really, if you try to tell most people about any non-Falcon character in the series, they'll WTF like they've never WTF'd before. Except Samurai Goroh, but even then only just. Probably because there are so many characters for such a small number of games coupled with the incessant stage presence of Cpn. Falcon and almost complete lack of everyone else AND the fact that it hasn't had a game in a long-ass time.. Edit by JN: use quotes, dude! |
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Post by Fryguy64 on May 18, 2010 16:58:33 GMT -5
The gap between F-Zero and F-Zero X was 8 years, and then it was 5 years until F-Zero GX/AX.
It's currently been 6 years since F-Zero Climax after a short run of popularity that included a TV series, but less-than-stellar sales.
I expect Nintendo will return to it one day, but I wouldn't write it off as "dead".
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2010 9:41:42 GMT -5
It's currently been 6 years since F-Zero Climax after a short run of popularity that included a TV series, but less-than-stellar sales. Playing semantics, but that's like saying the gap between Pokemon games (in a general sense) is determined with the shitty spin-offs in mind. "Man, that four months between Pokemon Rumble and HGSS was a drag!" You know? There are only three F-Zero games that count, just sayin'. Still, if F-Zero Climax was 2004, F-Zero GX was only 2003, so it's not that much of a difference. |
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Post by Fryguy64 on May 20, 2010 10:22:11 GMT -5
Kinda reinforces my point a little. We're used to big gaps in this series, filled with occasional handheld ventures. And like it or not, those handheld games are considered part of the "main series" and (gameplay wise) are an extension of the SNES game. To take your Pokemon example, it would be like not including FR/LG or HG/SS because they're "only remakes" and not a "real part of the main series" (reserved next for Black/White). You can be elitist about anything  |
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Post by The Qu on May 20, 2010 12:06:55 GMT -5
I think you guys are forgetting F-Zero: Maximum Velocity...
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2010 16:19:13 GMT -5
Kinda reinforces my point a little. We're used to big gaps in this series, filled with occasional handheld ventures. And like it or not, those handheld games are considered part of the "main series" and (gameplay wise) are an extension of the SNES game. To take your Pokemon example, it would be like not including FR/LG or HG/SS because they're "only remakes" and not a "real part of the main series" (reserved next for Black/White). You can be elitist about anything We're reinforcing each others' points now, it looks like! Oh man, I hadn't even realized I was being elitist. Cool! |
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Post by Fryguy64 on May 20, 2010 19:15:27 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong... I'm not suggesting we abandon all sub-series distinctions. That would make the job ahead with NinDB SO much more difficult  |
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Post by Shrikeswind on May 20, 2010 22:17:30 GMT -5
I do have a point to make, though. I'm not big on F-Zero, this should be noted, so I have little authority on even release years in the series, but if I'm not mistaken, even the games that, as TEi put it, don't matter haven't been around for some time. I mean, the DS is approaching its twilight with 3DS coming and there hasn't been a single F-Zero DS, much unlike the GBA which had at least one and I'm convinced had much MUCH more. Brawl put only two characters from F-Zero in the limelight, the characters being Cpn. Falcon, who most people know BECAUSE of the Smash series, and Samurai Goroh, who was basically a shoo-in for next F-Zero rep and wasn't even exploited that much himself, being an Assist Trophy and therefore relegated to one move, running around shouting "GOROHGOGOROHGOROH!" while swinging his sword arbitrarily, with the occasional jump. The series has no face, since Cpn. Falcon only gained glamor for himself and not for the series, and after him, there's no one else available to make this claim, since Samurai Goroh, the second most popular F-Zero character, isn't considered the series hero, that position being taken by, well, "Falcon...PAWNCH!"
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Post by Koopaul on May 20, 2010 23:36:35 GMT -5
Yes THE Captain Falcon is not famous at all, its the Smash Falcon that everyone likes.
Ask the average joe where Falcon comes from and he'll tell you "Durhurr! Smash Bros! Yo! FALCON PAWNCH!"
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