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Post by Dances in Undergarments on Aug 10, 2006 6:10:15 GMT -5
Why would Daisy get a move from a game she was never in?
And as I've said before, why are you obsessed with giving Peach a SPP-only moveset? Should Yoshi be remade into a Yoshi Touch & Go moveset then?
And why would you cut Jigglypuff? It was in the first game, its got original moves and its very popular in Smash.
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Post by TrustTheFungus on Aug 10, 2006 13:25:57 GMT -5
Toad will highly likely be in, so it would be wierd if Peach used him as a defense. Replace it with an emotion. I'd like them to just change Toad to Toadsworth, and make her new special attack involve her emotions. I guess the main reason would be she isn't that important to the Pokemon series. And didn't Sakurai say that he considered not including her in SSBM? I remember hearing that somewhere, but I'm not sure if it's true. |
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Post by Johans Nidorino on Aug 10, 2006 14:52:20 GMT -5
It would also be adorable to have Donkey Kong Jr. as a playable character. But Diddy Kong or K. Rool may steal room for him. BTW, I've seen a SSBM-themed GCN skin in which Wario, Diddy Kong, and Toad appeared along with the complete SSBM roster. Kind of like this except with those 3 popular characters in the foreground. Was it original? It could be some sort of hint for SSB:B or a remake of any past SSB game. |
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Post by Saim on Aug 10, 2006 16:36:13 GMT -5
Why would Daisy get a move from a game she was never in? And as I've said before, why are you obsessed with giving Peach a SPP-only moveset? Should Yoshi be remade into a Yoshi Touch & Go moveset then? And why would you cut Jigglypuff? It was in the first game, its got original moves and its very popular in Smash. He hast he exact same moveset in Yoshi Touch & Go. And I'm not obsessed, I just like SPP, and I think it makes sense to give Peach emotions. I would be fine if it didn't happen. I wouldn't even talk about how she could be better with emotions. |
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Post by parrothead on Aug 10, 2006 22:58:42 GMT -5
As many obscure Nintendo characters and Japan-Only Nintendo characters as Sakurai can accept. But for my TOP SIX, it would have to be: Stafy (Legend of Stafy franchise) Demiru/Demille (Tomato Adventure) The two main fencers as a tag-team (Kaeru No Tame Ni Kane Wa Naru) Alice (Balloon Kid and Balloon Fight GB) Michael Jones (StarTropics and Zoda's Revenge: StarTropics II) AND Blonde-haired boxer (perhaps "Little Mac" or just "Mac") (SNES Super Punch-Out!!) BTW, that rumor about Sakurai and the SSBB staff replacing Mr. Game & Watch and the Ice Climbers with Ridley, Bowser JR., and today's Young Link is very similar to the minds of people who want more overrated characters and no extremely-obscure characters, which means it's F-A-K-E. If it was about Adult Cartoon All*Stars, then many people would prefer overrated ones (like Family Guy, ATHF, and South Park) over obscure ones (like the Critic and Cartoon Sushi). If it was about Disney All*Stars, then many people would prefer overrated ones (like The Nightmare Before Christmas, Finding Nemo, Monsters Inc., Toy Story, The Lion King, DuckTales, Darkwing Duck, etc.) over obscure ones (like The Brave Little Toaster and the Herbie the Love Bug series). If it was about Fast Food All*Stars, then many people would prefer overrated ones (like Chick-Fil-A, Taco Bell, and Burger King) over obscure ones (like Central Park, Captain D's, and Steak'N'Shake). And if it was about Anime All*Stars, then many people would prefer overrated ones (like DragonBall/Z/GT, Inuyasha, Naruto, and FMA) over obscure ones (like Kinnikuman, Kakuto Ryori Densetsu Bistro Recipe, and Colorful). Super Smash Bros. is about many Nintendo characters in different sizes, colors, and shapes, not just overrated ones. 3RD-Party characters are visitors, just like Adult Link appeared as a visitor in Soul Calibur II. I made a list of character threads on SmashBoards.Com, click here to check it out. |
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Post by TrustTheFungus on Aug 11, 2006 0:14:33 GMT -5
If it was about Disney All*Stars, then many people would prefer overrated ones (like The Nightmare Before Christmas, Finding Nemo, Monsters Inc., Toy Story, The Lion King, DuckTales, Darkwing Duck, etc.) over obscure ones (like The Brave Little Toaster and the Herbie the Love Bug series). Everytime I watch anything by Disney(or any of their different movie studios like Touchstone) I always tell my sister it should be in Kingdom Hearts. It doesn't matter if it's the worst movie/tv show/cartoon I've ever seen. She stopped listening to me around the time I told her Sora should join the Amazing Race and have to drive Herbie to win and then Old Yeller should be taken over by heartless and you have to kill him. |
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Post by Fryguy64 on Aug 12, 2006 7:47:07 GMT -5
I guess the main reason would be she isn't that important to the Pokemon series. And didn't Sakurai say that he considered not including her in SSBM? I remember hearing that somewhere, but I'm not sure if it's true. He did consider not including Jigglypuff, but loads of people LOVED Jiggly (including me!) so he kept her and made her better. Now I love Jiggly even MORE than before. I hope she stays. Peach is LIKELY to get a SPP moveset. After all, she had hardly any moves from earlier games, and now she has a large pool to dip into. Any improvement to her mediocre moveset and abysmal stats would be welcome. Same for Bowser. |
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Post by Sqrt2 on Aug 12, 2006 14:42:19 GMT -5
Captain Olimar (Pikmin) Captain Louie (Pikmin) Given that both Olimar and Louie are tiny compared to all of nintendo's other heroes I'd seriously doubt that they have a realistic chance of appearing as a fighter. New characters I would like to see appear are Diddy Kong, Dixie Kong, K Rool, King Dedede, Ridley, Ganon (beast form) and maybe either Wart, Mallow or Geno could make an appearance. Needless to say that all the cast of SSBM should return (yes, dare I say it, even pichu!!). |
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Post by Nester the Lark on Aug 12, 2006 15:56:31 GMT -5
Given that both Olimar and Louie are tiny compared to all of nintendo's other heroes I'd seriously doubt that they have a realistic chance of appearing as a fighter. I think it'd be cool if they had a big army of Pikmin with them. Imagine them crawling all over the other characters like ants (or Smurfs!). Or, perhaps, a character made entirely out of Pikmin? Nah, that's just too ridiculous!  |
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Post by TrustTheFungus on Aug 12, 2006 17:13:25 GMT -5
He did consider not including Jigglypuff, but loads of people LOVED Jiggly (including me!) so he kept her and made her better. Now I love Jiggly even MORE than before. I hope she stays. Peach is LIKELY to get a SPP moveset. After all, she had hardly any moves from earlier games, and now she has a large pool to dip into. Any improvement to her mediocre moveset and abysmal stats would be welcome. Same for Bowser. I love Jigglypuff, but I don't really care if she's stays or not. Why would Peach need improvement? She's considered one of the best characters in the game. I think top five. Marth and Sheik being the best, and I think Fox, Falco, and Peach are next. I might be forgetting one or two characters, but she's definitely NOT a bad character. Improving her would make her overpowered. |
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Post by Fryguy64 on Aug 12, 2006 19:13:24 GMT -5
Why would Peach need improvement? She's considered one of the best characters in the game. ..... BY WHO!? I don't know ANYBODY who uses her. Her attacks are generally weak, she's quite slow for some reason, and her slightly better-than-usual jump is to make up for her complete inability to stay on stage for more than a couple of attacks. |
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Post by Johans Nidorino on Aug 12, 2006 19:42:44 GMT -5
Jigglypuff is a good and very unique fighter (Mewtwo is very unique, too) but it's a matter of whether they'll give preference to people who are used to choose them, or add more Pokémon which are popular.
There's Deoxys, Plusle & Minun, Lucario, Munchlax, possibly some 10th movie Pika-friend, and maybe even Meowth, who has been there for years and has been given special attention in games.
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Post by Smashchu on Aug 12, 2006 21:31:47 GMT -5
Peach is LIKELY to get a SPP moveset. After all, she had hardly any moves from earlier games, and now she has a large pool to dip into. Any improvement to her mediocre moveset and abysmal stats would be welcome. Same for Bowser. Peach, abismal stats. How dare you. Obviously you've never seen a good Peach player. Bowser I cnet vouch for but he does own in 4vs. Keep in Mind though Peach is used often in profesional matches. Of copurse there no bad character, only bad players |
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Post by TrustTheFungus on Aug 12, 2006 22:02:43 GMT -5
BY WHO!? I don't know ANYBODY who uses her. Her attacks are generally weak, she's quite slow for some reason, and her slightly better-than-usual jump is to make up for her complete inability to stay on stage for more than a couple of attacks. Do you play at a lot of big tournaments? If you just play with friends that could explain why you don't know anyone the uses her. Here's the tier list created at Smash Boards by some of the best players: Top Tier: Fox Falco High Tier: Sheik Marth Peach Middle Tier: Captain Falcon Ice Climbers Samus Doctor Mario Jigglypuff Mario Ganondorf Low Tier: Link Luigi Donkey Kong Roy Young Link Pikachu Bottom Tier: Yoshi Zelda Mr. Game and Watch Ness Bowser Kirby Pichu Mewtwo |
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on Aug 12, 2006 22:20:05 GMT -5
Tier lists are the tool of the devil. They are stupid, as not only do they only work if both players are of exact equal skill, but they also only work when you are using tournament rules - 1 on 1 matches, no items, only a certain choice of stages.
Seriously, who in their right mind would play like that? "OMG we hav teh 1337 skillz! I liek to Wavedash and L-Shuffle n00bs! But don't even try to put me in a game with items, because its too random, and someone could be more lucky then me and then I'd lose and have to kill myself!".
I seriously hope Sakurai forces people to use items in Brawl's online mode, because that would make all of these so called 'expert's' skills useless and then I would laugh so much my brain would explode.
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