Talking about the Character Roster: What We Know

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For some reason that made me burst out laughing.

Maybe becu...

I'm not even gonna say it.

[Hiker of Games]

starfoxroy said:

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I've seen that movie so many times, and I wasn't even scared. So there.

Did you see it... 23 times?

[Smashchu]

sgtmajorkururu said:

Okay, but say Sakurai doesn't adhere to that rule. Let's say this menu is completely unbalanced, while still looking neat. There's nothing stopping the character select screen from having a tail on the right or left side that goes like this:

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You know what I mean?

Yeah, of course that structure is a bad example. Chances are it will probobly be semetical, like how Melee's was.

[Johans Nidorino]

Nah... In the words of Boo, Sakurai will "own" us all and show character slots that contain two halfs, slots that float from one side to another, or a 3-D character selection screen.

[Sqrt2]

It must be something revolutionary, otherwise we'd have been shown it by now.

[Savage Adam]

I know how many characters there will be!

Somwere in between 1 and.........

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[Smashchu]

savageadam said:

I know how many characters there will be!

Somwere in between 1 and.........

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9: : ::::99999::::::9 .0:: : : : ::0.0.0: : :::::0.0:: : : :::0.0.0: : :::::0 . 0:: : : :::0.0.0: : :::::0
9: : : : :9 . . 9: : : : :90: : : : ::0 . . . 0:: : :::00: : : :::0 . . . 0:: : :::0 0: : : :::0 . . . 0:: : ::: 0
9: : : : :9 . . 9: : : : :90: : : : :0 . . . . 0:: : ::00: : : :::0 . . . . 0:: : :::00: : : :::0 . . . . 0:: ::: :0
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[Arcadenik]

nidorino said:

Nah... In the words of Boo, Sakurai will "own" us all and show character slots that contain two halfs, slots that float from one side to another, or a 3-D character selection screen.

LOL maybe Sakurai "owns" us by revealing a fully customizable character selection screen. You rearrange the roster by alphabetical order, backward alphabetical order, random order, in order of first appearance by game (like how SSB64 was like), in order of recent appearance by game (the opposite of SSB64), group by franchises, or etc.

[Sqrt2]

And just WHY would you want to re-arrange the roster order?

[Smashchu]

sqrt2 said:

And just WHY would you want to re-arrange the roster order?

Because people have their own organization for stuff.

[Flip]

Maybe Snake isn't secret. He's popping up in those Tourney Screens... Sakurai can do whatever he wants, I know, but it definitely has me wondering if he is now.

Let's see..we don't count Zamus, so we have 19 characters. If we add Captain Falcon, Ness/Lucas, and an AC Villager we get 22, a decent amount for a starting roster.

the reason I am adding AC Villager is this: if Animal Crossing was like any other franchise, it would have the Smash Bros. logo as its symbol. but it does not. it has music, a stage, and an item in the game, highly indicative, in my opinion, of a playable character. REGARDLESS of any rumors

After 22 fighters, we can add back in some of the Melee cast. Game and Watch is more or less confirmed by his empty slot. Then Ganondorf is guaranteed. And if you think about it, the only clones that we're certain to get the axe are Doc, Pichu, and Roy. So Young Link and Falco jump on board too. 26.

And lest we forget Luigi, Mewtwo, Jigglypuff, and Marth. 30.

That's a pretty big roster, but we can stretch it further. ASSUMING we get 2 more third party characters, that's 32. Then adding 3 top requested fighters (let's say Dedede, Krystal, Ridley), we get 35, which I think is a good number to halt at.

But what if we don't add the third parties? Afterall, we probably would've heard murmurs of SOMETHING by now. There's only a month and a half left till the Japanese released, and Mario & Sonic Olympics is being touted as their "first game." But that's not out till December... And what happened to Snake being secret? All those rumors about Ice Climbers being cut? Sonic being revealed midsummer? etc. etc.?

If you are including such a big ticket character like Mega Man or Sonic, wouldn't you want that to be a selling point? There's still time to unveil, oh sure, but they would HAVE to be obviously in the game, such as on the box art or mentioned at least in one place on the website.

My money? I'm throwing it out towards the new realization that Snake is the only third party character. Sakurai never said he was definitely taking more, and the only company we have 100% proof they were in talks with was Sega and we KNOW what Nintendo/Sega are collaborating on.

And thusly, back to my roster, we have two more slots for, oh... let's say Lucario and Geno (who would be counted as Mario, not Square). If we go higher than 35, Takamaru, Little Mac, and somebody from Mother 3 are my guesses for the next additions.

And THAT... would be the Brawl roster, as I see it from today on.

[Fryguy64]

A well reasoned post, Flip, I say I say

All I'll add is that your reasoning for the AC character is in no way foolproof. Sure, it would be the first series to have all those things, but Balloon Fight had music, trophy and item in SSBM, but no character. Of course, I'd like as many characters as possible... but I'm not 100% convinced that all the AC stuff so far amounts to a definite playable fighter.

I have been wondering if Snake might be the only third party character for a while. Somehow I doubt it, but again, I'm not saying that with 100% conviction.

But hey, I have a massive 1-Player mode, online play, trophies, collectable music, playable Wario, Pit, Pokemon Trainer, etc... whatever he puts in now is bonus for me! And even if my beloved Takamaru and Sukapon don't get in, that just gives me a chance to moan about it until the next time Nintendo tricks Sakurai into making a Smash Bros. game

[kirbychu]

fliptroopa said:

There's only a month and a half left till the Japanese released, and Mario & Sonic Olympics is being touted as their "first game." But that's not out till December...

Sonic and Mario Olympics is out on November 20th, actually. With Smash Bros. Brawl coming December 3rd. These are American release dates, of course, but neither of these games has officially been given a Japanese release date yet.

[luigi]

admin said:

A well reasoned post, Flip, I say I say

All I'll add is that your reasoning for the AC character is in no way foolproof. Sure, it would be the first series to have all those things, but Balloon Fight had music, trophy and item in SSBM, but no character. Of course, I'd like as many characters as possible... but I'm not 100% convinced that all the AC stuff so far amounts to a definite playable fighter.

This is true, but did Balloon Fighter have its own logo (sorry if someone has already thrown that argument out there)?

I just get the feeling that Sakurai is a very organized, consistent guy...and at this point, I don't think he would break the tradition of making a logo that has a character (and levels, items, music, etc) representing it.

However, you're totally right Fry, the reasoning is in no way foolproof at all and there's definitely a lot of evidence against a playable AC character...but I guess I'm just a glass half-full type of guy. ;D

[Hiker of Games]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sakurai flips the third party card of, say, Megaman and Sonic a little late in the game. Metroid Prime 3 didn't begin getting hyped until the month it was released.