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Post by Smashchu on Sept 1, 2007 13:36:10 GMT -5
I agree on most of those NinjaRygar, but why Lip?
My personal hates WW Link-What annoys me is people think he's a good character. In droves they seggest him. You don't want clones but you'll totally take another clone becuase he looks different >.>. It's aklso hard to make a good moveset for him. The one on Smashboards was just awful. We already have Link in Brawl. Zelda is represented. Do we have to represent the fact that there was a cel-shaded Zelda game
Paper Mario-Same reason. We have Mario. We don't need flat Mario. Something from Paper Mario would be fine, but we don't need Mario as paper. That's just lame.
Daisy-Mostly the Nsiders. It died down, but I think you guys are smart enough to figure out why I hate this one
Black Shadow-I don't think he's a crappy character or anything like that. But, heres the deal. if there was tro be another F-zero character, it was going to be Gohor. I think we can agree on that. If he is am assist trophy, then shouldn't we leave it at that. We don't HAVE to have another F-zero character. I think the franchise is good.
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Post by NinjaRygar on Sept 1, 2007 14:28:19 GMT -5
I really don't have the time right now to explain myself on why I hate Kingdom Hearts so much... But you have to admit... suggesting Sora for brawl IS a stupid thing to do. That's pretty much where I was going with that. Fanboys are the worst of the worst. Sonic fanboys are infamous... but in recent years it looks like Kingdom Hearts fans have seized the crown. Nintendo fanboys are pretty bad too! But... for comparison's sake... we're not over-excited spoiled little kids.... ..... we're just nerds. Why Lip? It's just personal. I don't like the way she looks. That design will NEVER grow on me... it looks like some new line of toys by mattel. Plus... it's just ONE game that never made it overseas.... I really don't want to see her make an appearance. But I don't dislike her as much as Krystal. As much as I hate Kingdom Hearts fans, and Sonic fans.... FURRIES are the real enemy. (Though I've seen them usually go hand and hand with Sonic fans....) I take high offense to that, my good man! I take it you've never played the game and are like "Disney is for babyz!!11!!! LAWLZ!!!1!!1 You hate KH fans? I hate people who never give something a chance and hate on it and its fans, only because you think its stupid. No. I played it. I didn't like it. I thought it sucked. But a crappy game is a crappy game and I can leave it at that. What I HATE is having it thrown down my throat... being bombarded by insane fanboys left and right... clamoring that it's the greatest RPG ever. Forget Chrono Trigger... forget Final Fantasy VI.... Kingdom Hearts is where it's at because it has Jack Skeleton in it... and has a story that was written by a 5th grader with a large VHS collection and a Playstation. I hate how obsessive these fanboys are... trying to throw their Disney RPG love into everything.... like Smash Brothers for example. Give me a break. A lousy game is a lousy game... but a lousy fanbase is why I REALLY hate it. They ruin it for everyone else. Disney movies are pretty awesome and some of them are my favorite animated motion pictures, like the Lion King and Alladin. To hate on it just for those refrences would be wrong... those movies are BAD ASS. I'm not going down the "It's just for little kids..." rant because.... I'm a Nintendo fan. I'm on the OPPOSITE side of that fence buddy. I play "kiddie" games and defend the shit out of them. Look! Right now I'm on a board about SMASH BROTHERS! I'll probably play as Pikachu!
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Post by Game Guru on Sept 1, 2007 17:43:08 GMT -5
My dislike usually falls into the third-party characters... Either they will all be from different companies (likely Sonic, and I would hope for Bonk to represent the TurboGrafx), or they will ALL be from Konami (This would be gleamed from the two other continuing Konami franchises represented in DreamMix, Simon Belmont and Power Pro). Personally, I don't rather care that Sonic the Hedgehog may be in Brawl or that he's teaming up with Mario at the Olympics. At the height of the 16-Bit console war, I owned both a Super Nintendo and a Sega Genesis. I saw the Mario and Sonic games as both being good and not having a desire to have them face off or something.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2007 18:17:21 GMT -5
I'm tired mostly of NinjaRygar flamebaiting. It's fine to have an opinion, man, and there's nothing wrong with expressing that opinion, but you're really acting like an ass I'm also annoyed with hearing one of my friends insist Wolverine will be in Brawl. You know...Marvel Comics' Wolverine. The dude with claws. He misheard Sakurai's statement about Brawl characters requiring to have origins in video games as something like "they must have been in a videogame at some point" and figures, because Wolverine is constant during all the Marvel Vs., X-Men Legends and Marvel Ultimate Alliance games, our cigar-smoking, adamantium-skeletoned mutant has a shot at trading blows with Mario and Link.
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Post by Manspeed on Sept 1, 2007 18:26:23 GMT -5
I'm tired of hearing anything that DK Vine members say. "OMG TINY KONG 4 BRAWLLLLLL!!!111!1one" When have we ever said that? We consider ourselves lucky just to have Diddy in there. It's people like you that cause the rest of the internet to pass unfair judgement about us.
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Post by Smashchu on Sept 1, 2007 20:07:01 GMT -5
I do agree with Tei. I don't mind your post Rygar, but others do. Suger coat it a bit. Or atleast just don't piss off fans of the franchise.
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Post by nukleararel on Sept 1, 2007 20:42:18 GMT -5
Why Lip? It's just personal. I don't like the way she looks. That design will NEVER grow on me... it looks like some new line of toys by mattel. Plus... it's just ONE game that never made it overseas.... I really don't want to see her make an appearance. Design means nothing when it comes to Nintendo. And don't give the reason that "it never comes overseas". I don't believe that means anything either.
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Post by TV Eye on Sept 1, 2007 21:17:52 GMT -5
Whoa, this threads gone out of control! One person hates one series, others have to defend it...
Let's calm down a bit.
I like KH, but hate the super fans.
I like Sonic but hate the super fans.
I don't hate anyone else who hates those games, we have a little thing here in America called freedom of expression.
BUT, when you insult someone because they like a game, that's just not right.
I am a fan of the represented games, but I am not a super fan. I think that's what you mean when you say you hate the fans.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on Sept 1, 2007 21:28:27 GMT -5
I agree on most of those NinjaRygar, but why Lip? My personal hates WW Link-What annoys me is people think he's a good character. In droves they seggest him. You don't want clones but you'll totally take another clone becuase he looks different >.>. It's aklso hard to make a good moveset for him. The one on Smashboards was just awful. We already have Link in Brawl. Zelda is represented. Do we have to represent the fact that there was a cel-shaded Zelda game Paper Mario-Same reason. We have Mario. We don't need flat Mario. Something from Paper Mario would be fine, but we don't need Mario as paper. That's just lame. You clearly have no creativity - both of these could have radically different movesets to their 'realistic' counterparts. Also in the case of Paper Mario, a potentially unique one, too.
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Post by TV Eye on Sept 1, 2007 21:42:16 GMT -5
I agree on most of those NinjaRygar, but why Lip? My personal hates WW Link-What annoys me is people think he's a good character. In droves they seggest him. You don't want clones but you'll totally take another clone becuase he looks different >.>. It's aklso hard to make a good moveset for him. The one on Smashboards was just awful. We already have Link in Brawl. Zelda is represented. Do we have to represent the fact that there was a cel-shaded Zelda game Paper Mario-Same reason. We have Mario. We don't need flat Mario. Something from Paper Mario would be fine, but we don't need Mario as paper. That's just lame. You clearly have no creativity - both of these could have radically different movesets to their 'realistic' counterparts. Also in the case of Paper Mario, a potentially unique one, too. I couldn't agree with you more. Both those characters could have interesting, yet different, moves from their original character. For example, Paper Mario could have a hammer, and various attacks from different badges. I have yet to play WindWaker, but I am sure he had totally different moves from Link in Twilight Princess.
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Post by Snuka7 on Sept 1, 2007 22:34:47 GMT -5
Paper Mario, Cel Shaded Link, Dark Samus, Bowser Jr, Waluigi, Daisy, Toad, Waddle Dee, Kammy Koopa, Jody Summer, Krystal, Tom Nook, Paula, Poo, Captain Olimar and Weavle all don't need to be in Brawl. Maybe Assits but that's all.
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Post by Smashchu on Sept 1, 2007 22:57:25 GMT -5
I agree on most of those NinjaRygar, but why Lip? My personal hates WW Link-What annoys me is people think he's a good character. In droves they seggest him. You don't want clones but you'll totally take another clone becuase he looks different >.>. It's aklso hard to make a good moveset for him. The one on Smashboards was just awful. We already have Link in Brawl. Zelda is represented. Do we have to represent the fact that there was a cel-shaded Zelda game Paper Mario-Same reason. We have Mario. We don't need flat Mario. Something from Paper Mario would be fine, but we don't need Mario as paper. That's just lame. You clearly have no creativity - both of these could have radically different movesets to their 'realistic' counterparts. Also in the case of Paper Mario, a potentially unique one, too. Paper Mario maybe, but no for WW Link. I mean,. how can you give him a good moveset without being a Luigi or clone. But, for the most part, their redundant.
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Post by Spud on Sept 2, 2007 0:04:22 GMT -5
Yeah I'm tired of hearing Toad for Brawl even though I used to say it a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2007 0:32:29 GMT -5
You clearly have no creativity - both of these could have radically different movesets to their 'realistic' counterparts. Also in the case of Paper Mario, a potentially unique one, too. Paper Mario maybe, but no for WW Link. I mean,. how can you give him a good moveset without being a Luigi or clone. But, for the most part, their redundant. 'Scuze me while I whip this one out. Wind Hero LinkStandard Special Move: Gust Jar - WH Link pulls out the jar from Minish Cap and uses it to suck in nearby players. He can hold them for a few seconds but is unable to move himself; however, unlike Kirby, he can aim once he has an enemy trapped and shoot them out as a projectile. Smash Special Move: Deku Leaf - WH Link utilizes the leaf to cause a massive gust of wind, stunning whomever it hits. If the leaf makes contact with a person, they take damage and get knocked back. Up Special Move: Grappling Hook - used as a tether recovery, WH Link can hurl his grappling hook up at different angles depending on the tilt of the control stick. The grappling hook can go through panels that a player can pass through and causes damage both being thrown and being reeled back in. Down Special Move: Iron Boots - This causes WH Link to equip his iron boots. He gains a lot of weight and becomes harder to knock off, but he gets less jump height and falls much faster. Using this in the air acts the same as Bowser or Yoshi's Ground Pound attack, with power between the two that leaves Link stunned momentarily. Grab: Mole Mitts - WH Link digs his claws into an opponent and latches on tightly. He can use one claw to scratch at them while he holds them, or he can kick/smack them away. Final Smash: Skull Hammer - Link equips the dreaded Skull Hammer from Wind Waker and charges it up, performing a circular attack with it before slamming it down on the ground, creating a shockwave. The move has an area of effect and causes damage to anyone hit by either part of the attack, as well as stunning with the shockwave itself. WH Link, because he has the Deku Leaf, is also able to glide--although his combat is very limited, since he'd hold onto the ends of the leaf with one hand and only be attacking with the other. His base moves would be mostly sword-centric, but having spent most of his time at sea and with Tetra's crew, he is more fluid than his older counterpart, being more of a buccaneer than a...fantasy elf-warrior.
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Post by Smashchu on Sept 2, 2007 0:34:35 GMT -5
^Better, but the grab, Final Smash, and Down special move need work. Props for using Minish Cap. Saldy, WW Link is still redundant.
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