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Post by TV Eye on Apr 26, 2008 20:19:09 GMT -5
Don't forget the possibility of a different Final Smash/some other different attacks/different physics. What else would they add? And considering that both Link and Toon Link have the same final smash (as well as all three Star Fox characters) why wouldn't Dr. Mario have the same as Mario? They'd probably have him shoot...pills...or something like that. He would be a pointless addition.
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Post by Dasher Misire on Apr 26, 2008 21:54:46 GMT -5
My complaints.
Mario- Too many stages. This is the only unbalanced thing, Mario stages. Mario Bros. is cool but I'd rather have had a second Kirby stage or a Robot Series stage.
Metroid- No Ridley
Yoshi- Where are the trophies? Not much else.
Kirby- One new stage. Half the music's not fitting, but still good.
Mother- Too little amount of music, and I dunno why Ness didn't keep the Mother 2 victory. And two or three songs were more suited for Onett. And no Mother 2 music, why was Fourside removed? It'd fit on New Pork... And Ultimate Chimera deserved a trophy.
F-Zero- My biggest complaints come to this. I try to not show it but I'm really really dissapointed with F-Zero's representation. As my friend has said (he's probably the biggest F-Zero fan who speaks up about the series, everyone else stays hush), Falcon being in still with such a bad rep just adds to the meme's about the character, yet those people never go and play an F-Zero game. Cause it has no Falcon Punch. If he was removed it would't be like he's just in because the Smash version of Falcon is loved. But that's the exact reason. Now F-Zero is the only series that isn't closely chained like Yoshi from the original game with a single character. Goroh was perfect, represents Falcon's enemies. Maybe Jody, she could have worked similar to Zamus. Black Shadow could have been a third Falcon clone even, if they're that lazy. The series isn't THAT bad or THAT small. By Super Smash Bros. Fourlee I sincerely hope either Falcon's not playable or we have two F-Zero characters.
Fire Emblem- I wanted Lyn playable, that's really it. I feel like FE deserves 3 characters, but that's me.
Kid Icarus- The trophies are lacking. Centurion at the very least is trophy-able, and maybe Palace in the Sky. I'd have liked an Eggplant Wizard trophy for nostalgia, too.
Ice Climber- Woooow. What the hell is with their trophies? We have Condor, Polar Bear, Topi from Melee, Balloon Fight crossovers... but Sakurai's not trophy-fying every object in the game anymore.
Robot Series- Professor Hector is nowhere save a mention in his trophy. No stage, and no Gyromite music. Blah. At least the robot's in.
Golden Sun, Nintendo Wars, Custom Robo- They deserve more than being summons and in CR's case, trophies. If not playable, why not stickers or trophies beyond one? (not CR) Isaac was a great playable choice, he has a moveset and is used to fighting. Ray MkI,II, or III woulda been good playable characters if Olimar was sized up. Pods, bombs, blaster shots, missiles... and Nintendo Wars I could see as music and trophies. Dunno about playable character since it'd be like Pikmin but... harder. Or Pokemon Trainer, swap out infantry, tanks, and a copter.
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Post by TV Eye on Apr 26, 2008 22:32:12 GMT -5
By Super Smash Bros. Fourlee I sincerely hope either Falcon's not playable
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Post by Snuka7 on Apr 26, 2008 23:39:56 GMT -5
By Super Smash Bros. Fourlee I sincerely hope either Falcon's not playable Falcon could not be playable in the next game. Rick Wheller(or whatever he is called) will maybe become the new Falcon. We will have to see who is plaable in the Wii version of F-Zero if there is one. If I ever hear 'Wheller Punch!', I will die. C. Falcon rules! But I would of really liked it if more bad guys (K Rool, Ridley) were playable. I know I have said that like 20 times but I am a big fan of evil guys. Even Black Shadow would of been cool. And for some reason I feel like Issac and Takumaru could of been playable. They seem real cool. Last thing, I think that Wolf isn't a OMG character like Ness and G&W. Skapon would of been a perfect choice. But as I read Fry's post like ages ago, he is getting more popular as with Takumaru.
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Post by commanderflint on Apr 27, 2008 8:07:10 GMT -5
My complaints. Fire Emblem- I wanted Lyn playable, that's really it. I feel like FE deserves 3 characters, but that's me. Golden Sun, Nintendo Wars, Custom Robo- They deserve more than being summons and in CR's case, trophies. If not playable, why not stickers or trophies beyond one? (not CR) Isaac was a great playable choice, he has a moveset and is used to fighting. Ray MkI,II, or III woulda been good playable characters if Olimar was sized up. Pods, bombs, blaster shots, missiles... and Nintendo Wars I could see as music and trophies. Dunno about playable character since it'd be like Pikmin but... harder. Or Pokemon Trainer, swap out infantry, tanks, and a copter. I don't think Olimar and Pokemon Trainer sealed Andy's fate of being a AW rep, but Snake did. Isaac could had done something cooler then his move psyenergry. I don't thik Lyn's that important to Fire Emblem. Sigurd or Celice would be better, or even the return of Roy.
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Post by Game Guru on Apr 27, 2008 9:50:55 GMT -5
But Mario still has the Tornado. Why don't you just not use FLUDD? Or it could be improved for SSB4. Rather than having Mario in different clothes taking a spot that could be filled by a character that isn't already in the game. Because the Tornado sucks as an Aerial Move. If it WORKED like the old Special, where you could press Down+A on the ground and still do it, it'd be ok in my book. Mario's "Tornado" is just a cosmetically different drill kick. If it were a special move, it would so that cool vacuum effect where it sucks up multiple foes and sends them flying at the attack's end. Having four specials that can all be used equally rather than one that's useless furthers Mario's position as the well-rounded guy. This is true. What else would they add? And considering that both Link and Toon Link have the same final smash (as well as all three Star Fox characters) why wouldn't Dr. Mario have the same as Mario? They'd probably have him shoot...pills...or something like that. Because Dr. Mario doesn't throw fireballs, he can't have a Dr. Mario Finale to blast opponents away. He can't use the Megavitamins to do the move either as the pills wouldn't have fire trails. It's a logic issue that prevents Dr. Mario from being cloned in that aspect. Besides, Dr. Mario would already be different in one aspect if he came the way I want him with his Down Special being Dr. Tornado, so he's already be a bit different from the clone brigade, and I never minded clones. I minded useless, unpopular clones. While Dr. Mario is unpopular, now that Mario has the FLUDD, he is far from useless. Every other clone is a popular character choice. Falcon could not be playable in the next game. Rick Wheller(or whatever he is called) will maybe become the new Falcon. We will have to see who is plaable in the Wii version of F-Zero if there is one. If I ever hear 'Wheller Punch!', I will die. C. Falcon rules! But I would of really liked it if more bad guys (K Rool, Ridley) were playable. I know I have said that like 20 times but I am a big fan of evil guys. Even Black Shadow would of been cool. And for some reason I feel like Issac and Takumaru could of been playable. They seem real cool. Last thing, I think that Wolf isn't a OMG character like Ness and G&W. Skapon would of been a perfect choice. But as I read Fry's post like ages ago, he is getting more popular as with Takumaru. The Anime and the games GP Legend and Climax are in a different continuity from F-Zero X and F-Zero GX, and also Maximum Velocity. Nintendo makes games based on their anime, but it doesn't supercede game continuity. In fact, Rick Wheeler was originally an anime character, so by Sakurai's own ban on anime characters, Rick Wheeler can't appear.
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Post by TV Eye on Apr 27, 2008 11:27:28 GMT -5
I just don't see why changing one move would make him "uncloned". And the FS would definitely be the same as Mario's. Even if he doesn't shoot fireballs, he would still shoot a bunch out pills out of his hands.
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Post by Manspeed on Apr 27, 2008 12:19:39 GMT -5
No, he would summon a giant jar full of viruses.
He could also have Mario's "flaming palm" forward Smash replaced with the huge fist from Smash 64. Same goes the midair "meteor punch". which could be replaced with Mario's old forward drill kick also from Smash 64. He'd effectively be Mario's Falco, minus the similar Final Smash.
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Post by Boo Destroyer on Apr 27, 2008 13:07:09 GMT -5
Here's wondering if 9-Volt and 18-Volt (WarioWare) will start to take any liking to Sonic and Metal Gear games.
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Post by TrustTheFungus on Apr 27, 2008 13:38:59 GMT -5
Peach sucks in Brawl. In SSB4 they need to add Nurse Peach, who would be exactly like Peach, except she would have a couple different moves.
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Post by TV Eye on Apr 27, 2008 14:12:07 GMT -5
In SSB4 they need to add Nurse Peach, who would be exactly like Peach, except she would have a couple different moves.
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Post by Spud on Apr 27, 2008 16:14:24 GMT -5
No, he would summon a giant jar full of viruses. Just like how Falco uses an Arwing as his final smash.
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Post by Boo Destroyer on Apr 27, 2008 16:36:47 GMT -5
No, he would summon a giant jar full of viruses. Just like how Falco uses an Arwing as his final smash. PERSONALLY, I PREFER THE AIR.
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Post by Smashchu on Apr 27, 2008 17:10:06 GMT -5
My complaints. Fire Emblem- I wanted Lyn playable, that's really it. I feel like FE deserves 3 characters, but that's me. Golden Sun, Nintendo Wars, Custom Robo- They deserve more than being summons and in CR's case, trophies. If not playable, why not stickers or trophies beyond one? (not CR) Isaac was a great playable choice, he has a moveset and is used to fighting. Ray MkI,II, or III woulda been good playable characters if Olimar was sized up. Pods, bombs, blaster shots, missiles... and Nintendo Wars I could see as music and trophies. Dunno about playable character since it'd be like Pikmin but... harder. Or Pokemon Trainer, swap out infantry, tanks, and a copter. I don't think Olimar and Pokemon Trainer sealed Andy's fate of being a AW rep, but Snake did. Isaac could had done something cooler then his move psyenergry. I don't thik Lyn's that important to Fire Emblem. Sigurd or Celice would be better, or even the return of Roy. I don't beleive either. My idea for Andy was for him to summon Mechs, Tanks and Artillery to fight along side him. This basically makes him a crazy off shoot of Olimar. I think it would allow a AW character to be playable and do the franchise some justice.
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Post by 8bitretroshit on Apr 27, 2008 17:10:47 GMT -5
I don't know what annoys me more, people complaining about that boring Dr. Mario being cut or people complaining Snake took AW rep X's spot.
The latter doesn't even make sense. It's not like they're keeping a list of different character themes and when adding Snake they wrote a check at 'military guy'. Sorry Sami, spot taken. Most AW characters are commanding officers anyway, meaning they'd probably do things like commanding tiny AW units... kinda like Olimar. Hell if anything, Olimar's the reason AW doesn't have a fighter.
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