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Post by Fryguy64 on Aug 29, 2008 3:11:39 GMT -5
And yet, nearly all the DK-related stuff in Brawl is from either Jungle Beat or Donkey Konga (plus the fact that the DK series is the only major franchise without an Assist Trophy in Brawl).  Erm... how on Earth did you work that out? Aside from DK's Final Smash, there's nothing in there from Donkey Konga at all. And the Assist Trophies aren't about bigging up the major franchises. Star Fox has a classic SNES Andross, Metroid just has a Metroid... hell, even Mario has Waluigi, Hammer Bro and a pixellated NES Lakitu. They're not exactly major characters. And what's this moaning about "Major Franchises" - so it's OK for Kid Icarus and Pikmin not to have Assists, but not DKC for some reason? Most of the music is from DKC, including the fantastic Gangplank Galleon and Bramble Blast music. The new DK stages are Jungle Beat and arcade DK themed, with the Melee DKC stage in there as well. The trophies mostly feature classic DK characters using Barrel Blast models. And the stickers feature everything. The trophies thing is a more general problem - models "borrowed" from recent games, rather than made from the ground up. And there are plenty of DK trophies. So where's this idea that DKC is unloved coming from? From what I can tell, it's getting a hell of a lot of a love at the expense of other games in the series. |
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Post by Snuka7 on Aug 29, 2008 5:08:47 GMT -5
And yet, nearly all the DK-related stuff in Brawl is from either Jungle Beat or Donkey Konga (plus the fact that the DK series is the only major franchise without an Assist Trophy in Brawl). Erm... how on Earth did you work that out? Aside from DK's Final Smash, there's nothing in there from Donkey Konga at all. And the Assist Trophies aren't about bigging up the major franchises. Star Fox has a classic SNES Andross, Metroid just has a Metroid... hell, even Mario has Waluigi, Hammer Bro and a pixellated NES Lakitu. They're not exactly major characters. And what's this moaning about "Major Franchises" - so it's OK for Kid Icarus and Pikmin not to have Assists, but not DKC for some reason? Most of the music is from DKC, including the fantastic Gangplank Galleon and Bramble Blast music. The new DK stages are Jungle Beat and arcade DK themed, with the Melee DKC stage in there as well. The trophies mostly feature classic DK characters using Barrel Blast models. And the stickers feature everything. The trophies thing is a more general problem - models "borrowed" from recent games, rather than made from the ground up. And there are plenty of DK trophies. So where's this idea that DKC is unloved coming from? From what I can tell, it's getting a hell of a lot of a love at the expense of other games in the series. *claps* Well said. But I still think King K. Rool would have been a better choice than Diddy...as he could have a major role in Subspace Emmisary....and if only Wolf could have a role with him...the five bad guys could team up. One thing that kind of makes me mad is that Petey Piranha was choosen for a Mario boss. It could have been um.......Grodus, Count Bleck, (maybe not those two), King Boo (same as Petey), ummmmmmmm..............ACTUALLY....who else could they choose. I can't think of any other good choices for Mario Bosses. |
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Post by nocturnal YL on Aug 29, 2008 10:25:15 GMT -5
*suddenly appears from nowhere* *claps* Well said. But I still think King K. Rool would have been a better choice than Diddy...as he could have a major role in Subspace Emmisary....and if only Wolf could have a role with him...the five bad guys could team up. One thing that kind of makes me mad is that Petey Piranha was choosen for a Mario boss. It could have been um.......Grodus, Count Bleck, (maybe not those two), King Boo (same as Petey), ummmmmmmm..............ACTUALLY....who else could they choose. I can't think of any other good choices for Mario Bosses. I'd say Diddy is a better choice - I don't really take Subspace as THAT important, anyway, although I'll agree that K. Rool is a good choice - if there's any space left for a 3rd character, I'll hope that's him. Although I don't really play much Donkey Kong stuff... And the choice of Mario Bosses? As long as Mario Bosses is concerned, I guess there'll be two choices: King Boo and Petey Piranha - there's not really a lot of massive-sized Mario bosses. I'd say King Boo, but he's more than just hand-to-hand combat (harder to implement in terms of programming), leaving Petey to be the obvious choice. The trophies thing is a more general problem - models "borrowed" from recent games, rather than made from the ground up. And there are plenty of DK trophies. So where's this idea that DKC is unloved coming from? From what I can tell, it's getting a hell of a lot of a love at the expense of other games in the series. Agree with the trophy thing. I'd say the trophy distribution is also a problem. Whenever a series is not 3D-ized, that series will get a less number of trophies. And I feel funny at the sight of Kyle Hyde... On the "DKC is unloved" thing, I guess it's more appropriate to say SSB series is all about "a bit of something", and therefore, also "lack of everything". I've once thought of an independent console with 100GB of memory as a host of a new SSB, but on a second thought, even 100TB would not be enough in include everything - unless you count "everything" as simply yanking all Nintendo ROMs in the past in. |
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Post by Wildcat on Aug 29, 2008 10:32:13 GMT -5
Other suggested Mario bosses: The Koopa Kids, Fryguy (hey!), Wart, Birdo, Triclyde, Mouser, Bowser Jr., Kamek/Kammy, Cackletta, Wiggler or Boom Boom. Just to throw it out there. And I'm still sad Zelda of all things didn't get a boss in Brawl.  |
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Post by Dasher Misire on Aug 29, 2008 16:06:49 GMT -5
Fry, you stole my thunder with an almost similar speech! D:<
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Post by parrothead on Aug 29, 2008 17:53:18 GMT -5
Here are several more reasons why Nintendo needs to bring the Game Boy memories back: * Wario started on it and he is being used so often. * Princess Daisy started on it and she is being used so often. * The Kirby series started on it. * The Pokemon series started on it. * It is region-free, meaning people can play Game Boy games from other regions onto their Game Boy. * Some Game Boy games were better than their NES counterparts. For example, the Game Boy version of Tennis was better than the NES version of Tennis. Even though the NES was colored, graphics aren't more important than gameplay. If you want graphics more than gameplay, go watch an animation, go to an art museum or try drawing and animating your own. The real reason why the Game Boy era isn't being brought back much is that most people preferred home console gaming, which has tastier eye and ear candies, so that they can say "WOW!" as much as they want. The Game Boy era was spinach-colored and then in black-and-white when the Game Boy Pocket came out. |
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Post by TV Eye on Aug 29, 2008 18:33:29 GMT -5
Very...um...interesting parrothead...
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Post by Johans Nidorino on Aug 29, 2008 18:49:30 GMT -5
I have to agree on Flip's and Rob's comments about the Game Boy. Eventually, Nintendo will need to give a tribute to the Game Boy, because it will be classic enough. That could and should be done in SSB4.
But I don't think a playable character should represent a system more than it should represent its game series, unless that character only appeared in that system or it's a mascot or hardware character like Mr. Game & Watch or R.O.B.
I'd love to see a playable stage with Game Boy graphics. If it's meant to be a Game Boy stage "for the sake of representing the Game Boy" (and not a game), then it'd have to be like the Flat Zone stages in the sense that you'd fight inside a Game Boy. However, since Game Boy games were more developed and rich than Game & Watch games, I'd rather have several layouts that could be loaded independently (like in Mushroomy Kingdom), each layout corresponding to one game from that era, popular and obscure alike.
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Post by Boo Destroyer on Aug 29, 2008 20:16:52 GMT -5
What's with all this picking on Parrothead as of late?  |
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Post by TV Eye on Aug 29, 2008 21:46:16 GMT -5
What's with all this picking on Parrothead as of late? Who's picking on him? |
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Post by Dasher Misire on Aug 30, 2008 15:39:49 GMT -5
Apparently everyone!
Leon has stated Sakurai was surprised at the Fire Emblem DS Marth redesign (and I imagine also the Falchion redesign especially). So that probably means if he is on board for a fourth, Marth will have that design.
Though that's probably going to happen anyways as the game is probably going international.
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Post by Boo Destroyer on Aug 30, 2008 22:51:51 GMT -5
What's with all this picking on Parrothead as of late? Who's picking on him? Eh, see for yourself. I'll admit, he DOES sound like a robot a lot, but come on. He's just about keeping us informed on stuff nonetheless. |
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Post by Dasher Misire on Aug 30, 2008 23:15:08 GMT -5
So the answer would be you're picking on him. Everyone has a different personality.
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Post by Boo Destroyer on Aug 30, 2008 23:24:15 GMT -5
I have to agree on Flip's and Rob's comments about the Game Boy. Eventually, Nintendo will need to give a tribute to the Game Boy, because it will be classic enough. That could and should be done in SSB4. But I don't think a playable character should represent a system more than it should represent its game series, unless that character only appeared in that system or it's a mascot or hardware character like Mr. Game & Watch or R.O.B. I'd love to see a playable stage with Game Boy graphics. If it's meant to be a Game Boy stage "for the sake of representing the Game Boy" (and not a game), then it'd have to be like the Flat Zone stages in the sense that you'd fight inside a Game Boy. However, since Game Boy games were more developed and rich than Game & Watch games, I'd rather have several layouts that could be loaded independently (like in Mushroomy Kingdom), each layout corresponding to one game from that era, popular and obscure alike. I'm not quite sure if there is much to draw from on any Game Boy games. Mr. Game & Watch & R.O.B. were there mainly because of bringing out stronger representation for old-school. Um... Wario Land, maybe? When wanting Wario in Smash pre-Melee, I did have an idea for a Wario Land-themed stage. I don't know, it seems those games are just about forgotten now thanks to WarioWare. So the answer would be you're picking on him. Everyone has a different personality. ...I fail to see how the heck I'm doing that.  It appears someone should look around moar. |
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Post by Fryguy64 on Aug 31, 2008 15:29:55 GMT -5
Everyone seems to be having a bad case of the spazmo. Now the Wario Land series is forgotten? What about the brand new Wii game in the series?!
Parrothead listed loads of reasons why the Game Boy deserves more representation, and I hate to repeat myself - but nearly everything in that list IS ALREADY represented!
People are trying to justify their desire for a Game Boy themed stage with completely nonsensical arguments. Hell, some of you actually seem to have forgotten what is IN Brawl already. It's like arguing with someone who has never played the game, although I know you all (mostly) have! It boggles my mind!
Oh, and Dasher, I didn't read your speech, I merely stated my opinion on the insanity of the last couple pages.
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It appears someone should look around moar.