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Post by Koopaul on Jan 6, 2009 22:54:06 GMT -5
Because like I've been saying time and time again. The world of Sonic is NOT our world. We live in a world where love can only be achieved by another human being, so we see Sonic and Elise as strange and disgusting. But if we were to live in their world, that would be normal.
The same applies in our own world. In some countries, things that seem totally insane are completely practical.
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Post by TV Eye on Jan 6, 2009 23:58:06 GMT -5
Um...okay then.
It's a good thing (most) of us don't live in crazy world where it's okay for a hedgehog to kiss a human. IT'S LUV AFTER ALL, BY GOLLY!
Gawd, how can you even be so serious about this?
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Post by kirbychu on Jan 7, 2009 2:24:30 GMT -5
...It wasn't love. It was a one-sided crush. I think the thing here, Teev, is that we're taking it less seriously than you are. You're offended by it. I just don't care.
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Post by Spud on Jan 7, 2009 10:48:01 GMT -5
Still, the situations mentioned above were played for humor, and they were at least cartoony animals being paired together. In Sonic '06, he was paired with a realistic human girl, in an e ntirely serious manner. Why the hell does it even merit defense? It was a metaphor for how much in love the sonic fans still are with sonic even though he's quite clearly dead.
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Post by TV Eye on Jan 7, 2009 12:32:45 GMT -5
I think the thing here, Teev, is that we're taking it less seriously than you are. You're offended by it. I just don't care. Actually, this whole thing seems like a joke to me. The fact that people are taking this seriously is what's driving me crazy. Also the people that are trying to validate Sonic gettin' it on with a human. Dat's mess'd up.
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Post by kirbychu on Jan 7, 2009 12:59:33 GMT -5
Actually, this whole thing seems like a joke to me. The fact that people are taking this seriously is what's driving me crazy. Also the people that are trying to validate Sonic gettin' it on with a human. Dat's mess'd up. So... you're not taking it seriously, but you're annoyed at people for accepting it? That seems like a contradiction. Besides, nobody's validated them "gettin' it on". I'm not validating a news story about a young girl doing obscene things to a hedgehog, I'm validating two freakin' cartoon characters sharing a quick kiss. Why anybody is taking it seriously enough to be offended by it is beyond me.
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Post by TV Eye on Jan 7, 2009 13:45:54 GMT -5
Guess it's harder to express how I truly feel about this in words, but I'll give it a go.
HUMAN KISSING ANTHROPOMORPHIC HEDGEHOG=WEIRD
Phew, that was tough.
Okay, guess I gotta NOW back up by claim about the whole joke thing. I consider it a joke like how a nerd getting hung up by his underwear on a flagpole is a joke. Some people laugh, and the others are like "Hey guys, that's not funny. This is serious!" Then they get beat up for not laughing.
This kiss thing is just another sad and ridiculous way to make Sonic the laughing stock of the videogame community. It's Shadow with guns all over again.
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Post by kirbychu on Jan 7, 2009 13:55:41 GMT -5
Eh, I still don't see how it matters. But, like you said, it's just another excuse to rag on Sonic. That's the cool thing these days, it seems. After all, nobody seemed to care when Ash and Latias kissed. XD
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Post by TV Eye on Jan 7, 2009 14:17:52 GMT -5
Japanese media is indeed "fucked up".
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Post by Manspeed on Jan 7, 2009 16:50:50 GMT -5
Well not all of it, but the stuff that is is fucked up enough to make people think all of it's fucked up. Dude, you're a fucking genius. Mind = blown.
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Post by Koopaul on Jan 7, 2009 23:12:16 GMT -5
It's a good thing (most) of us don't live in crazy world where it's okay for a hedgehog to kiss a human. None of us live in that world, because it's a FICTIONAL WORLD I'm talking about. Sonic's actual, fictional world, you dummy. Not ours. HUMAN KISSING ANTHROPOMORPHIC HEDGEHOG=WEIRD Not in Sonic's world. Apparently that's hard to get through your thick head. I told you a thousand times that society defines what's weird, and that Sonic's fictional world is a different society. On another subject, how many times has Captain Kirk kissed an alien?
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Post by TV Eye on Jan 7, 2009 23:56:22 GMT -5
It's a good thing (most) of us don't live in crazy world where it's okay for a hedgehog to kiss a human. None of us live in that world, because it's a FICTIONAL WORLD I'm talking about. Sonic's actual, fictional world, you dummy. Not ours. Okay, yeah, it's a fictional world, let's go ahead and read on what you typed up next... HUMAN KISSING ANTHROPOMORPHIC HEDGEHOG=WEIRD Not in Sonic's world. Apparently that's hard to get through your thick head. I told you a thousand times that society defines what's weird, and that Sonic's fictional world is a different society. If it's fictional then why the fuck are you trying so hard to defend it? Now lemme try to ram something deep into your "thick head" (todd). I don't care about Sonic's society. IT'S NOT REAL, just like you said. In the real world, a human blahblahblah hedgehog blahblahblahimjustrepeatingmyselfblahblahblah is weird. In fake Sonic world, it's A-OK. YIPPEE! You can try for force your stupid response on me, and I'm going to continue not giving a shit.
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Post by kirbychu on Jan 8, 2009 2:07:02 GMT -5
If it's fictional then why the fuck are you trying so hard to defend it? I think the fact that this is a discussion forum and you keep insisting that it's WRONG WRONG WRONG might have something to do with it. You can try for force your stupid response on me, and I'm going to continue not giving a shit. Teev... seriously, what are you doing? You're just trolling the thread at this point. You keep saying you don't give a shit, but you still keep posting to tell everyone who disagrees with you how stupid they are.
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Post by Koopaul on Jan 8, 2009 2:21:32 GMT -5
Indeed. He's right. You keep on insisting that it's wrong. And only weird people could except such a thing. So I'm explaining why I believe that it's not as wrong or weird as you think it is. Simple as that.
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Post by 8bitretroshit on Jan 8, 2009 2:55:42 GMT -5
Saying it's okay because it's another universe is really really stupid though. Guess what, humans kissing other living things on the mouth is considered really really weird over here in the real world and so the majority of the people who saw that scene thought it was really really weird too. Like if there's a fictional story someone published taking place in Fantasy Land where geezer barbarians rape and marry little kids and everybody is all: 'Man that's messed up, the writer is messed up' and there's some guy white knighting the author because 'It's another universe IT'S ALLLLLLRIGHT!' Yes I know anthro-kissing is nowhere as bad as pedophilia and I'm total shit at analogies but you get my point. But, like you said, it's just another excuse to rag on Sonic. That's the cool thing these days, it seems. I see that comment a lot lately and it makes me grin, as if there are jock-nerds high-fiving each other while making Sonic sucks jokes. I wonder if this thread will be locked before the game's even released?
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