I'd like to see what Fry or Underwear think of this matter, because I really don't know what to say at this point...
Personally I've avoided posting anything in this thread because its been epic levels of stupid since page 1. I haven't read it recently so I don't know what knew piece of retardation has been posted, but I can say with confidence, without even reading it, that whatever argument has been put down, by whatever person it is, is retarded. And all counter arguments against it are also retarded.
The Smash Bros forum is now where sane rational arguments go to die. And as that argument dies it has defecated retardation on everything around it.
And I'm out. Bye bye.
Oh, I see, rather than try and fix it you ignore it until you no longer can, then attack it. Great job, Pharisee. You have no right to complain if you've done nothing to help. What's worse, you try to put the fire out with a flamethrower. It doesn't work, you just end up causing a bigger fire.
As for the rest of you, if we could PLEASE get back on topic and start talking about characters we see as likely choices for a future Smash game, I'd be very appreciative.
Well, I tried to explain in my tl;dr posts how I noticed that there are usually 12 new characters added in each game and how Nintendo markets their franchises outside of SSB games could affect the SSB rosters, but its ridiculous according to some people here. I just wanted to explore a possible connection between Nintendo's marketing and SSB rosters.
Post by Shrikeswind on Apr 6, 2009 18:16:24 GMT -5
Don't worry, that is a valid point in this thread. It's interesting to me to note that, based on the +12 idea, from Brawl to SSB4 would have 47 characters (using a roster space as the definition of a character) if it followed the rule strictly, and as Smash hasn't been exactly strict on that historically, it would be around 50.
47 seems plausible to me, maybe a 10x4 grid on top of the 7x1 bottom row. But if we replace Ike and Lucario with a new FE Lord and a 5th gen Pokemon, we get 45 (a perfect 9x5 grid like I've mentioned many times on this thread). So, it could be somewhere between 45-50, though it could also be between 44-49 if we still have the random select. So, the bottom line, I think its reasonable to expect at least 44-50 characters in SSB4, hopefully if there's one.
Also, I had some posts here about how I sorted all the characters into four categories as another way to balance the roster: main characters, secondary characters, retro / Japan-only characters (aka obscure characters), and third party characters. I even included percentages, too. Have you given that some thought?
Oh, yeah, I listed Pit and Marth under Retro / Japan-only because at the time Brawl came out, Pit is retro and Marth is Japan-only. But come SSB4, Marth is not classified under Retro / Japan-only, but now under Main (contemporary and international) because he had a new game on the DS this year. As for Pit, only time will tell if there is a new Kid Icarus game between now and SSB4, so for now he's under Retro / Japan-only.
Post by Shrikeswind on Apr 6, 2009 21:27:04 GMT -5
Ah. Well, my take is pretty solid, then. Around 7 new main characters sounds appropriate under any circumstance between now and SSB4's release, whether or not we get 7 new main series in or not, but we'd have to HAVE 7 new main characters, which is where some debate would stem from. 5 secondaries seems appropriate too, but if we don't have 7 main characters, we'd have to bump this number, along with the +5 for retro / cult / Japan-only series. Final verdict: I concur that 7-5-5 is pretty good, but only if there are enough characters to fill those shoes.
Post by Shrikeswind on Apr 6, 2009 23:04:34 GMT -5
I'd say so, yes. My evidence? The fact that in Melee, Ness was going to be chopped out for Lucas (cancelled because of whatever it was that happened to Mother 3.) In Brawl, Lucas joined up, having finally had his game released, but they kept Ness. That's enough for me to believe that the original 12 are permanent fixtures in Smash Bros.
Post by somemannerof on Apr 19, 2009 21:33:00 GMT -5
I had an idea that might make a good addition, and could MAYBE replace the "Masterpiece" thing.
Legacy Mode (or some similar title): You play through classic stages based on the original games the characters came from, all rendered in pixel-perfect detail, You'd have Super Mario Brothers World 1-1, Donkey Kong Country's Jungle Hi-Jinx, The Ice Climber mountain, etc.
nocturnal YL: My current plan is to play Atelier Firis DX now, which online guides suggest is long. Atelier Lydie & Suelle DX will likewise be long (longer than the original too, due to DLC, DX additions and I'll make the best items). I'll maybe play Ys Origin after.
Jun 14, 2021 10:28:43 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Not sure about what I'll play after. Another Atelier game will probably be out by then, either completing the Secret series or giving us Arland 5. Either way, I'll probably play those before going elsewhere. Dusk will have to wait for quite a bit…
Jun 14, 2021 10:31:02 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Wondering if I should get Mario Golf at launch or wait a couple of months. I have so many other things to play that my gaming (and wallet) might need a little breathing room.
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Nester the Lark: The problem with playing Hyrule Warriors and a modern Ys game at the same time is that even though the combat feels somewhat similar, the controls are completely different, and I get confused.
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Shrikeswind: Yeah I'm here, but kinda vaguely. Sorry, I haven't had too much to say lately.
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Shrikeswind: By the way, I don't know if you guys have been keeping up with OCR on YouTube, but apparently they're dropping an album for a game I grew up on, Jet Force Gemini. Really pumped; I'll post a review when they finish.
Jul 8, 2021 11:30:44 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: Or at least when my Top 3 from that game are on the Toobz. Just one more song to go.
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Nester the Lark: I feel like I've been neglecting the forum more than usual lately. Been distracted by other things. I'll try to post something when I get the chance.
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nocturnal YL: I don't have time to make posts. Atelier Firis DX takes forever to play. When I'm not playing, I'm in a read-only mode, reading guides and watching (unrelated) videos.
Jul 17, 2021 13:25:38 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: On that note, I'll probably make a review on the whole trilogy, so it will be a while until I talk about these games in details here. I can say Atelier Firis DX has far exceeded my expectation and has taken over Totori as my 3rd fav.
Jul 17, 2021 13:31:06 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Uh, I take that back. Atelier Firis has a lot of merits, but also a lot of drawbacks. It's extremely tedious for 100% completion, and there are all kinds of other flaws. Still good for the exploration aspect and certain plots like Liane's character events.
Aug 9, 2021 13:38:12 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: I don't know where I'd place it. A bit above Atelier Totori? A bit below it? I still think it's pretty good, at any rate. If only they could keep this game's engine but dial back its scale and make a traditional Atelier. Totally not foreshadowing anything.
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Nester the Lark: I've finished Ys IX, so I'll be working on a detailed write-up and comparison with Ys VIII.
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Spud: I try to keep up with here, but the proboard RSS feed suuuucks. And Thunderbird is barely passable as a feed aggregator. I feel like the internet was just better in 2007.
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Nester the Lark: I may have a little time to catch my breath...
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nocturnal YL: Game progress update: Atelier Lydie & Suelle DX — defeated Falgior, so it's about 1/3 done (about 1/4 if I count post-game item grinding); WarioWare: Get It Together! — played up to the staff credits (about 5%, I guess).
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nocturnal YL: This pic is how I'd rate my games on Nintendo Switch so far (subject to change). Numbers are meant to show relative positions; like temperatures in °C and °F, absolute values don't mean much.
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