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Post by Arcadenik on Mar 12, 2009 9:15:51 GMT -5
I don't know about breeding in Diamond/Pearl and I haven't breed anything in LeafGreen. But the idea is still the same. But in LeafGreen, my Golbat tried to evolve into Crobat but couldn't just because I haven't gotten the National Dex. You don't need to have a biology book to help a tadpole become a frog.  |
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Post by Johans Nidorino on Mar 12, 2009 9:21:12 GMT -5
I don't know about breeding in Diamond/Pearl and I haven't breed anything in LeafGreen. But the idea is still the same. But in LeafGreen, my Golbat tried to evolve into Crobat but couldn't just because I haven't gotten the National Dex. You don't need to have a biology book to help a tadpole become a frog. Interesting. But I suppose that was because Crobat isn't part of the Kanto Pokémon (same would apply to Chansey, I guess). Don't worry, that won't happen in Sinnoh. |
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Post by Koopaul on Mar 12, 2009 9:25:39 GMT -5
Yes i remember that silliness in Fire Red and Leaf Green. You couldn't do certain evolutions that couldn't happen in the original Red and Green, without getting the National Dex first.
It's ridiculous that they want to keep evolutions canon, but everything else can be different. In Leaf Green, Misty gave you Water Pulse instead of Bubblebeam. Or even now, male and females can look different, but they didn't in other versions.
I'd just make it easier on people and get rid of all those silly items. And silly rules.
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Post by Arcadenik on Mar 12, 2009 9:29:19 GMT -5
Its weird. Golbat can evolve into Crobat in Johto, Hoenn, Shinnoh without the National Dex but cannot evolve in Kanto without it. I'm sure Golbat could evolve in Kanto without the National Dex in Gold/Silver. Why did they have to make this happen in FireRed/LeafGreen? Its supposed to be an updated remake of Red/Blue, so I thought that Golbat could evolve into Crobat in Kanto just fine. I think the National Dex is not necessary unless you like looking through National Geographic: Pokemon Edition. |
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Post by Koopaul on Mar 12, 2009 9:31:24 GMT -5
I wonder if they make a Gold and Silver remake, certain Pokemon won't be able to evolve either.
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Post by Johans Nidorino on Mar 12, 2009 9:35:04 GMT -5
Its weird. Golbat can evolve into Crobat in Johto, Hoenn, Shinnoh without the National Dex but cannot evolve in Kanto without it. I'm sure Golbat could evolve in Kanto without the National Dex in Gold/Silver. Why did they have to make this happen in FireRed/LeafGreen? Its supposed to be an updated remake of Red/Blue, so I thought that Golbat could evolve into Crobat in Kanto just fine. I think the National Dex is not necessary unless you like looking through National Geographic: Pokemon Edition. It's for the same reason, that it's a remake of a game that contains Pokémon whose evolutions were introduced later. But I agree, they should have let you obtain Crobat and Blissey just like Magnemite and Magneton are now part Steel-type. Nowadays, when you obtain a Pokémon that is not native to the current region, it simply doesn't get listed in the local Pokédex. I hope this doesn't happen in a G/S remake. |
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Post by Arcadenik on Mar 12, 2009 9:39:31 GMT -5
What G/S remake? Pokemon Gold was my first Pokemon game!
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Post by Johans Nidorino on Mar 12, 2009 9:43:14 GMT -5
What G/S remake? Pokemon Gold was my first Pokemon game! Such a remake has not been announced, but several things in Pokémon, discovered in recent years, are interpreted as hints for its future existence. We were discussing it right here. |
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Post by Arcadenik on Mar 12, 2009 17:13:46 GMT -5
Oh, yeah... that poster with Pichu, Chikorita, Cyndaquil, and Totodile. They are definitely the mascots of Gold/Silver along with Ho-oh and Lugia. Yeah, a G/S remake would be nice.  Hmm, maybe a new Pokemon type or two? How about Oil? It could be immune to Water (and vice versa) and is strong against Normal, Grass, and Flying but very weak against Fire, Ground, Rock, and Steel. Fire and Steel could be super effective against Oil. Rubber sounds good as a new type. It could be immune to Electric but very ineffective against Electric, Fire, and Steel. It could be super effective against Water, Rock, Ground but Normal and Fire are super effective against Rubber. I don't know but Oil and Rubber sound interesting to me. |
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Post by Manspeed on Mar 12, 2009 19:25:37 GMT -5
Light types are a must. There's already Dark, so why the hell not?
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Post by Boo Destroyer on Mar 12, 2009 19:49:12 GMT -5
True, why the dick haven't they brought on any new types since Ruby/Sapphire anyway? Diamond/Pearl could have done so, at least.
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Post by Arcadenik on Mar 12, 2009 20:09:10 GMT -5
Light? Hey, it could be strong against Dark (and vice versa) and Psychic and Ghost... hmmm... maybe it could be weak against Grass (since plants use light to grow just like plants use water to grow and Grass is stronger than Water) and Water and Ice (water do reflect light, right?).
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Post by BeamClaws on Mar 12, 2009 20:16:20 GMT -5
I'm sure light evaporates water...
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Post by Johans Nidorino on Mar 12, 2009 20:40:02 GMT -5
Given that several moves were sound-based up to the third generation (12 moves), I used to think "Sound" could become a type of its own in later generations. However, that didn't happen, and now they introduced 2 more of such moves (Chatter and Bug Buzz), and their only peculiarity is still their ineffectivity against Pokémon with the Soundproof ability. The offensive type match-ups I had invented for the Sound type included being super effective against Psychic, Steel, Rock, not very effective against Flying (among some other types), and ineffective against Grass.
Genius Sonority introduced the Shadow Pokémon and Shadow moves in Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness. Shadow is more of a "metatype" (a personal term) rather than a type, because Pokémon of any type (even dual-typed Pokémon) can be Shadow Pokémon and become purified into non-Shadow Pokémon. Shadow moves were "super effective" against any non-Shadow Pokémon, while they're "not very effective" against other Shadow Pokémon. This led me to think that the concept could be expanded into more "metatypes" in future games that could work as additional attributes of basic-typed Pokémon.
I'm not sure what would Light be an opposite of. What we know as the Shadow "metatype" was known in Japan as Dark. What we know as Dark is similar to evil in Japan. Though they may as well completely ignore the existence of the GCN games and make Light an opposite for Dark in any language. Ghost is, too, a type related to darkness and sinisterness, and several Ghost-type moves are named after shadows.
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Post by Manspeed on Mar 13, 2009 16:20:37 GMT -5
Dark types are called Demon types in Japan. Maybe Light types can be called Holy in Japan or something. That's usually how it works. I mean, we have Arceus now, right?
What other "metatypes" could there be besides the Shadow-fication from Colosseum? That was really like an all-purpose combination type/status effect/ability thing.
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