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Post by Arcadenik on Mar 24, 2009 16:44:43 GMT -5
Wow. Now that's crazy! I think that's pretty more evil than Team Rocket and even Team Magma and Team Aqua. Team Rocket = wants to steal rare Pokemon, make quick buck from doing illegal activities like gambling (petty stuff) Team Aqua / Magma = wants to make the world better by drying the oceans / flooding the earth even though that threatens the environment Team Galactic = wants to use Palkia / Dialga so they could change reality and become gods I have to wonder what Game Freak will come up to top Team Galactic's insane goal.  |
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Post by Johans Nidorino on Mar 24, 2009 17:27:33 GMT -5
I like Shadrio's idea for a future evil organization.
Personally, when I first saw the artworks and sprites of Professor Rowan, the way he was dressed made me think he was going to be associated with Team Galactic somehow. Now that would be a change, that the Professor of the current region were a villain. Hard to imagine, I know.
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Post by Shadrio on Mar 24, 2009 18:52:58 GMT -5
Maybe it could be the professor's ex-right-hand man, and wants to be better than his teacher, like Elm with Oak, but actually going to the extreme as to actually trying to be better and going against professor morals and yadayadayada...
Also, a more "Gary/Blue"-ish Rival. May was the worst rival ever, not even fully evolving her starter pokemon, and Lucas (or w/e the 4G's rival's name is) is pretty much done after battling him a few times. Gary/Blue would have a snobbish attitude against you and actually made it to being the Champion (though only for a short time, we pwn'd him) and becomes a Gym Leader in 2G. 2G's rival (Idk his official name -_-') starts out bad, kicking you when you first see him next to Elm's Lab and stealing his starter pokemon. That, and on one of the Sevii Islands, in one of the Rocket Bases, there was some info (book, gossip some scientist tells you, magazine, idk, I don't remember) about Giovanni having a Red-haired son. I've never been 100% sure if that "red head" depicted there is the 2G rival, but if it were, it would explain his coldness. Anyway, my point is that the cold Rival has so far been the best rivals, since once you own them, their reaction to one beating them over and over again finally makes them calm down, thus' making the player enjoy more beating that rival up.
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Post by Shrikeswind on Mar 24, 2009 19:46:54 GMT -5
Shadrio, you really do know how to come up with an idea. The only way I can think to top your idea on an evil team? TWO teams like that.
And totally agree on the rivals. The ass-hats, Blue and Silver (2G rival's name by the way), are BY FAR the better rivals. It's like, if Wario was like Brendan and be a kindred to Mario, he'd be boring. If he was like Wally and just trying to prove himself, he'd be boring. If he was like Lucas and was just Mario's impatient friend, he'd be boring. What makes a good rival is the conflict, which is what makes Wario, Blue, and Silver so fun. Mario's altruistic, Wario's a cash-hound. Red's helpful, Blue's self-centered. Gold's compassionate, Silver kicks puppies. There's no rivalry in Brendan, Wally, and Lucas. They aren't rivals, just your rowdy friends.
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Post by The Qu on Mar 24, 2009 20:42:44 GMT -5
Silver was the name of the second generation rival. He's interesting because speculation says he's Giovanni's son, after a line in LG/FR. If they do the Silver and Gold remakes, I'll expect a lead up on that.
Arcadenik, that's pretty much the way I feel about it. I like Rocket Dan (I love Japanese names that seem crazy to us!) because their evil was so banal. They're gangsters lead by a Italian who even go as far as controlling a crooked gaming parlor! Team Magma was... interesting, if boring.
But Galactic (Who's name was changed to Team Galaxy in America, even though they were named after the villains in Pulseman!) are interesting because of their cult like mentality. So, so far we have had gangsters in the vein of La Cossa Nostra, eco terrorists and now what essentially amounts to a religious cult. Perhaps they will go for another villain archetype.
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Post by Da Robot on Mar 24, 2009 20:55:53 GMT -5
Perhaps they will go for another villain archetype. All I can think of now is the "bungling evil doer" archtype. Example: Evil leader type "We're hold all their Pokemon ransom for . . . $1,000,000!"2nd in commander type Crikey! It's more than 6 digits . . . That's not possible! |
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Post by Boo Destroyer on Mar 24, 2009 20:58:13 GMT -5
And what's taking Pokemon so long on the spin-offs? It has a lot of possibilities for games like that.
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Post by The Qu on Mar 24, 2009 21:10:49 GMT -5
the Pokemon manga gave me an idea for one: A group, ala PETA, who wants to get rid of humanity so Pokemon can live in peace. A group of scientists who perform unethical experiments on Pokemon could be well done too, since we've never actually encountered anyone in the games despite it being a plot point in the first generation. Imagine scientists trying to recreate Mewtwo, knowing full well what he is.
And if all that fails, they could bring back Team Rocket. Have some wannabe gangstas trying to join Rocket and just generally being douches.
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Post by Koopaul on Mar 24, 2009 22:09:13 GMT -5
The Pokemon world is already PETA.
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Post by The Qu on Mar 24, 2009 22:20:23 GMT -5
Huh? I'd imagine a world in which animal fights are an accepted form of entertainment would be PETA's worst nightmare. =P
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Post by Shrikeswind on Mar 24, 2009 23:53:32 GMT -5
Not really. It's obvious that Pokemon rule in the Pokemon world. I mean, Pokemon trainers don't eat, don't sleep, walk ridiculous distances with a backpack featuring among other things three fishing poles and a bicycle, and risk getting mauled by wild animals just to protect their injured Pokemon from further harm. Seriously, try going down Victory Road with nothing but a single level 5 Magikarp one of these days and tell me that you're in a world where humans rule, because as soon as that fish is down you'll go running through Victory Road ignoring every wild Pokemon looking to rip you to shreds to get to the last Pokemon Center you've been to, which would be especially bad if the last Center you were at was actually your house. It's pretty messed up, especially when you stop to think that you don't use any items, particularly Escape Ropes, Repels, and so on.
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Post by Johans Nidorino on Mar 25, 2009 1:41:36 GMT -5
That's a bit different because that's a Trainer sacrificing himself or herself for their companion Pokémon rather than sacrificing humanity for Pokémon. The former may be implied by the latter, but not the other way around.
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Post by Koopaul on Mar 25, 2009 9:06:03 GMT -5
Well if you consider that everyone in the game (except the villians) is bending over backwards for Pokemon. Remember how they couldn't did through a cave because they thought it would disturb the Pokemon living there? What about the fact that everyone in the world talks about nothing but Pokemon. Pokemon are even worshiped in the game! Read some of the books in the library in Canalave City.
And the TV show is even worse, people would risk their lives just to settle the feuding of wild Pokemon. For heavens sake their WILD, who cares if they fight?
Pokemon used to be about capturing and taming monsters. Now it's just become obnoxious. I mean I'm all for treating Pokemon with respect, but not the same kind of respect you'd give a human.
I mean, in real life, would you jump in front of a car to protect a squirrel?
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Post by Boo Destroyer on Mar 25, 2009 9:45:18 GMT -5
I already noticed that whole Pokemon obsession thing in the Pokemon world ages ago. Especially seeing that this thread is for improving Pokemon, it seems like Koopaul is the only one who's looking at it the right way so far, no offense to anyone else. |
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Post by Arcadenik on Mar 25, 2009 10:21:48 GMT -5
The "hero" jumps in front of the car would be called stupid for risking his life over an animal, a traitor to the human species for protecting an animal's life when he should have been protecting his own human's life, or even a furry. The "villain" runs over the squirrel would be accused of not valuing life in general, evil for purposefully hitting and running, or a negligent driver who's not paying attention to the road. The "victim" who gets run over would be blamed for its own demise because it shouldn't be on the road in the first place, suicidal because it didn't move out of the car's way, or deserved to die because it was not paying attention to its surroundings. I think all answers to that story are double-edged swords. Everyone in that story end up looking bad no matter what their intentions are. But that's just me. |
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