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Post by nocturnal YL on Nov 12, 2009 4:45:10 GMT -5
Great. I guess I'll play in the "fastest route" when I first play the game though, like the DS version.
I pretty much know about a third of the stages I'll be playing in. From what I know, the last stages are a bit disappointing.
And the Hammer Bros appear so early.
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Post by Grandy02 on Nov 12, 2009 7:58:59 GMT -5
A word on the Koopa Kids'/Koopalings' identity in Japan again: You know the Super Mario Adventures comic that was published in the American Nintendo Power magazine? The comic is a Japanese creation, and was also released in Japan. In the comic, the Koopalings are clearly portrayed as Bowser's children, maybe that was the first time when they were referred to as such in Japan. And Bowser wanted the Princess as the mom of his kids long before Bowser Jr. was introduced. Yes, I know a comic isn't "canon", but it was still officially released and the setting is close to the games. Whatsoever.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on Nov 12, 2009 8:05:04 GMT -5
There's a point early in the game where you get a letter from Bowser Jr and it refers to them as his underlings or something like that. I don't remember exactly, but it struck me as purposely avoiding referring to them as family members.
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Post by Fryguy64 on Nov 12, 2009 9:32:39 GMT -5
You know the Super Mario Adventures comic that was published in the American Nintendo Power magazine? The comic is a Japanese creation, and was also released in Japan. Proof? Source? I have never seen any evidence of this. |
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Post by Grandy02 on Nov 12, 2009 9:51:46 GMT -5
You know the Super Mario Adventures comic that was published in the American Nintendo Power magazine? The comic is a Japanese creation, and was also released in Japan. Proof? Source? I have never seen any evidence of this. Here is the Japanese release: blogs.yahoo.co.jp/jpsflavor/30618744.htmlIt keeps the Western reading direction. According to Japanese Wikipedia, the pen name "Charlie Nozawa" was only used for this comic by the manga artist, otherwise his pen name is Tamakichi Sakura. Also, in the letter of the Princess in the second Mario vs. Wario comic, there is a peach icon rather than a "toadstool" icon, even though she was still not called Peach in the West (aside from Yoshi's Safari). |
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Post by Fryguy64 on Nov 12, 2009 14:09:38 GMT -5
OK... but there's nothing there to suggest the Koopa Kids were scripted as Bowser's children in the Japanese release of the comic. Just saying, is all.
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Post by Game Guru on Nov 13, 2009 5:01:04 GMT -5
It has a huge fight scene between Wendy and Princess Toadstool, and Toadstool eventually finds Wendy's room. Wendy's very much like in the animated series.
Also, Bowser Jr. referring to his siblings as underlings fits his character, and could be considered him just insulting them, as Bowser Jr.'s attempts to thwart Mario at the very least hold Mario up for a while and at the best hold Mario up enough to allow him to revive his father. Where were any of the Koopalings when Bowser Jr. needed to revive his father?
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Post by Fryguy64 on Nov 13, 2009 5:41:19 GMT -5
*sigh* None of that is evidence for the idea a Japanese comic referred to the Koopa Kids as Bowser's children.
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Post by Game Guru on Nov 13, 2009 12:56:04 GMT -5
I know, but what do you expect? "Yo, we are Bowser's kids?" Maybe there is a line like that in Super Mario-Kun. However, I actually find it interesting that in New Super Mario Bros. Wii, they are called "Kuppa no Teshita" (Underlings of Bowser) instead of, their original name, "Ko Kuppa" (Child Bowser). Is there any evidence in the Japanese materials for New Super Mario Bros Wii that they are called the Ko Kuppa? It could be that they were indeed considered by Nintendo of Japan to be Bowser's children, but that was retconned out specifically for this game.
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Post by Koopaul on Nov 13, 2009 21:38:49 GMT -5
Once again I wish we had a friend from Japan here...
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Post by Manspeed on Nov 13, 2009 22:10:19 GMT -5
Hey, if they're his "underlings" now, I guess my new fanon theory can say that the Koopalings are probably Bowser's nephews and niece. Simple enough, no?  |
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Post by nocturnal YL on Nov 14, 2009 0:45:06 GMT -5
Once again I wish we had a friend from Japan here... Which is useless. Despite having their own network, they don't have much access to original sources. Ang if you mean the lamguage issue, I guess videogame fans should at least learn basic Japanese. I didn't, but I see things around for quite a while - I can't write or speak, but I taught myself to read some Japanese without reference. |
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Post by kirbychu on Nov 14, 2009 6:57:10 GMT -5
Heh. I can speak and understand spoken Japanese fine, but can't read or write a single word. We should join forces! We could fight crime... IN JAPAN! I actually kinda like the idea of the Koopalings being Bowser's nieces and nephews. Has a Donald Duck kinda feel to it. |
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Post by Manspeed on Nov 14, 2009 9:18:35 GMT -5
Yeah, and it makes the fact that they all look different a little less jarring.  |
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Post by Dasher Misire on Nov 14, 2009 10:00:12 GMT -5
I adore the CG in that commercial. It's just a wonderful twist of real and Mushroom World. Just perfect, a mix of old and new commercials.
Definitely getting this game for my Christmas party. But whoever gets it this week, how diverse are the levels? And how does it stack up to New SMB, which was, in my opinion, inferior to Super Mario 3 and especially Super Mario World?
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