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Post by Koopaul on Mar 8, 2011 20:43:06 GMT -5
I thought the whole damn world of Pokemon was PETA.
A world where families abandon each other to live with animals who they'd sacrifice their lives for.
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Post by TV Eye on Mar 8, 2011 22:40:05 GMT -5
Pokemon are about as close to animals as children. Seriously, the Youngster's could learn a thing or two from their freaking Lillipup's.
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Post by Shadrio on Mar 8, 2011 22:40:17 GMT -5
Seeing as how Ash has sustained heavy damage various times in the anime and the movies just for pokemon, it kind of tells how much people in the Poke-Earth love... well, pokemon. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I'm at the 4th gym right now and I barely managed to KO'd one Pokémon and managed to see the 3rd Pokémon. And with a team like (I love what TV Eye did... somewhar): Servine Lv 27  Tranquill Lv 26  Panpour Lv 26  Whirlipede Lv 27  Yeah, I'm training. To battle a gym leader. Again, even in the same generation. So far, I haven't enjoyed a generation's story mode since 2G. And sure, the Team Plasma grunts are as numbskull'd as the come, but I've enjoyed the fact that they're an integral part of the games' transition, not just some hunky-dunky-dorry sidequest. But Ghetsis and *insert any town's name between Nuvema and where ever I'm currently located at*... most wtf names ever, at least for me. Dammit, I want my Joltik! I checked the game's map (I'm evading serebii for now), and it seems like this Chargestone Cave (or whatever) seems to be the correct place to hide my Joltik from me... |
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Post by TV Eye on Mar 8, 2011 23:14:03 GMT -5
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Post by kirbychu on Mar 9, 2011 5:52:46 GMT -5
I thought the whole damn world of Pokemon was PETA. A world where families abandon each other to live with animals who they'd sacrifice their lives for. If PETA had their way, there wouldn't be any contact between people and animals, though. They believe it's wrong for people to own pets. |
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Post by Shrikeswind on Mar 9, 2011 6:22:49 GMT -5
Which is ultimately what's wrong with 'em. I may be a vegetarian and a supporter of animal welfare, but if it's immoral to shelter, feed, and clean up after an animal, then it's immoral to give a starving human a sandwich.
But yeah, Pokemon. So, do Team Plasma screw with the Legendaries? Or are they doing things like the Rockets?
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Post by kirbychu on Mar 9, 2011 6:31:59 GMT -5
They do screw with the legendaries. I've only just reached that point, though, so I don't know exactly to what extent. EDIT: MORE SPOILERS: It looks like they caught the version mascot so that N could pose as the hero of the Unova legends, to help them convince people to release their Pokémon. Ghetsis just gave me a speech about how the most gullible people will start doing it, which will begin a chain reaction ending with, essentially, people getting lynched for owning Pokémon.I love the game, but I loathe Team Plasma. I know Pokemon villains aren't supposed to be super-fleshed out, but these guys are so flat they'd make Paper Mario blush. N is an intolerable hypocrite with twisted logic and the Plasma grunts are dumbasses through and through. I mean - yeah, the Grunts are never that smart, mostly just being sheep, but these guys especially so. Rocket grunts know what Team Rocket is about; Aqua and Magma grunts understand their teams' goals and ideals, even if they can't perceive the long-term consequences; and Galactic grunts, while just as clueless as Plasma grunts, at least have the (dis)advantage of Cyrus' plans being misleading and abstract. Stupid, but abstract nonetheless. How far through are you, TEi? I did feel the same way as you about them to begin with, but it got better. SPOILERS: Ghetsis is manipulating everyone, including his son N, who he conditioned in those beliefs from birth by refusing to let him see other humans or Pokémon who hadn't been hurt by humans. Ghetsis' plan is to ultimately force everyone to release their Pokémon and, when he's the only person left with Pokémon, take control of the region. N has doubts about what Team Plasma stands for, which is why he spends the whole game helping you out indirectly. Basically, everything we're led to believe Team Plasma stand for for most of the game is total bull. They're just a more subtle Team Rocket. |
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Post by Shrikeswind on Mar 10, 2011 23:57:27 GMT -5
So, basically, he's telling people to disarm themselves, then basically usurps power in doing so, according to his plan. Sounds like a Gen 3 team with Giovanni in charge taking influence from Cyrus, then.
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Post by Arcadenik on Mar 11, 2011 8:37:59 GMT -5
So Team Plasma cannot really be called the PETA of the Pokemon world because they were only pretending to be the PETA in order to take over the world. They don't care about animal rights, it was just their cover. A better analogy would be convincing people to give up their guns so they would have an easier time taking over the world with their own guns.
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Post by kirbychu on Mar 11, 2011 8:54:22 GMT -5
It's actually still a perfect analogy, since PETA are famously massive hypocrites who euthanise 97% of the animals they "rescue" because it's cheaper than re-homing them.
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Post by Shrikeswind on Mar 12, 2011 3:30:57 GMT -5
Less so, since, as you say, only Ghetsis is actually aware of the plan and is utilizing the entire team to achieve his goal, while the euthanasia part is accidentally known to general public aware of PETA's antics, for want of a better word. Furthermore, that detail in Team Plasma's plan is one which would get them disbanded immediately if people knew about it, while PETA is fully capable of continuous operation with their dark detail because their dark detail is actually legally allowed. So it works, but only just. FYI, we're seeing why I, a vegetarian animal-rights supporter, don't intend to join PETA. So, uh, yeah.
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Post by kirbychu on Mar 12, 2011 6:33:37 GMT -5
I should point out, before confronting N at the end of the game, there were a few Plasma grunts inside his castle who seemed to confirm that N was actually the only member of the team who wasn't in on Ghetsis' real plan.
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Post by 8bitretroshit on Mar 16, 2011 4:05:54 GMT -5
I gotta ask, are the Black & White commercials as weird everywhere else as they are over here?
I mean yeah Pokemon's (surprisingly still) popular among the 20something crowd, but having some young adult reminiscing about the good ol' days when he first played Red and Blue seems to be an odd way to market a game mainly targeted towards children. I suppose they're going for the 'adults play it too so it must be cool' strategy but it's just... akward (then again so are all Wii & DS commercials)
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on Mar 16, 2011 6:01:45 GMT -5
We're getting pretty stock-standard ads (explore a new region! catch all new pokemon! yada yada), but they're popping up in the weirdest of places - I think they've just done a deal with the networks, rather than for individual shows - so we're getting them not just during, like, The Simpsons, but weirdly, stuff like Californication and even Pulp Fiction the other day.
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Post by Da Robot on Mar 17, 2011 15:59:54 GMT -5
Is it me or is this game more grindy than the previous gens? Also the wild monsters are ussually 1 or 2 levels higher than the trainers hanging out there... I guess to make it more tempting to add those new goofy monsters to your team. And I thought the worldmap showing the desert and metropolis so close together looked odd enough, but it's even stranger ingame. You run around a lush green city only to exit North straight into a friggen sandstorm... where they're in the process of building more shit? Atleast Earthbound had a lake seperating Fourside and desert... Late bump, but are you meaning this desert? |
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