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Post by TV Eye on Nov 16, 2010 10:04:40 GMT -5
See, the part that broke me was then they were all about to FREAKING DIE! Then they all hold hands and quietly accept their fate.
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Post by kirbychu on Nov 16, 2010 13:09:49 GMT -5
Both parts broke me. All three times I went to see it. XD
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Post by Da Robot on Nov 18, 2010 4:48:27 GMT -5
Here's the whole pilot episode for Angora Napkin, based off a graphic novel of the same name, and it is weird/funny and it definitly isn't aimed at kids. You will see why . . . Apprantely one of the people who worked on it also worked on Ren and Stimpy APC. "Three young women meet the world head-on in a bubblegum pop explosion of harsh reality.Spinning off from the Eisner nominated graphic novel, this animated pilot was created for Teletoon as part of their Pilot Project initiative."
(This was broadcast in Canada on Halloween) I'll try posting more cartoon pilots episodes for shows that haven't been picked up yet. www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpjCCOXRs6wwww.youtube.com/watch?v=znrf7dy9Mjg
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2010 16:37:25 GMT -5
I tried watching Angora Napkin, I really did - but the Spumco-styled animation has this fantastic, ruinous power that can make a cartoon unwatchable (for me, anyway). Also, jiggly hipster boobs don't a mature cartoon make.
You want to know how much I dislike Spumco-styled animation, though? It almost put me off the Plastic Man pilot Cartoon Network aired a few years ago, and I love Plastic Man. A cartoon dedicated to him has the potential to be awesome. Fortunately (for the animation's sake), the poopy visuals were dwarfed by the sheer number of bad puns. I can tolerate puns, I'm not allergic to them or anything, but Plastic Man's schtick is irony and anti-subtle sight-gags. He uses puns off-the-cuff and about as frequently as your average Joe, so that failure to understand the character is what really did that pilot in.
Still, the Spumco-lite stuff didn't do much to help.
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Post by kirbychu on Nov 18, 2010 17:07:12 GMT -5
I couldn't finish watching it because of the animation either, but for a different reason. It's got that weird, floaty, unnatural kind of animation you get when the animators are relying too heavily on a computer to do the animating for them.
I hate that.
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Post by TV Eye on Nov 18, 2010 18:00:06 GMT -5
The art was fantastic, but...yeah. The animation was waaaay too digital for me.
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Post by 8bitretroshit on Nov 19, 2010 3:34:07 GMT -5
I like the animation 'n all, but it's really really unfunny.
Also saw How to train your dragon finally yesterday, it was okay. Movie suffers from that dumb father i am disappoint cliche though. You know, where he thinks the kid's a loser, then he thinks he's awesome, then he smacks the kid stating he has no son only to dramatically apologize to him later IN THE MIDDLE OF A HUGE BATTLE. Doesn't he need to win the battle to prove himself first? Oh nevermind.
I liked how the dragons were basically a bunch of oversized cats though. Both the kid and the dragon being crippled at the end was a nice touch too.
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Post by Da Robot on Nov 29, 2010 4:54:38 GMT -5
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Post by Da Robot on Dec 5, 2010 23:00:17 GMT -5
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Post by 8bitretroshit on Dec 6, 2010 2:22:35 GMT -5
Oh, thought I commented already. I liked this one a lot better, probably because it actually had a plot other than LOL RANDOM (WB shop ships to U.S. Destinations Only). Boooo
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Post by Da Robot on Dec 8, 2010 21:55:43 GMT -5
Here's another cancelled pilot, from Nickelodeon pitched all the way back in the year 2001 named Constant Payne. It was made by Micah Wright, who was a writer for the Angry Beavers. Constant Payne was inspired by the pulp fiction of his youth such as Doc Savage. The show is about a crime-fighting genius named Doc Payne and his daughter, Amanda Payne. This was to be Nickelodeon's first Action-Adventure show. No shows of this type had been tried at the network previously because no one there could figure out how to make an action show appeal to both boys AND to girls. I solved that problem by making the daughter the star of the show and having the father character be a major ass-kicker to appeal to the boys. It was a successful strategy... the show tested through the roof with both boys and girls(!) and Nickelodeon started talking about a pickup of 26 episodes. (Wright's comment). The reasons this show isn't on the air are numerous: from the moment the pilot was picked up there were always certain executives at the network who felt that a "violent" action-adventure show was inappropriate for "kid-safe" Nickelodeon. Next, Nickelodeon's non-union studio was organized by the Cartoonists' Guild and the Writer's Guild. I signed a union card, which didn't please the network executives.
Lastly (and most importantly) after the terror attacks of 9/11, Nickelodeon decided they didn't want to make any action shows, much less one where the main character's mother had been killed by terrorists and where the father was dealing with raising his daughter alone and attempting to keep her from following in his dangerous footsteps. Before 9/11, the executives didn't think the show's family dynamic "reflected reality." After 9/11, I suppose it reflected reality all too well.
Oh well... it's their loss, really. I got to work with Madhouse, my favorite Japanese animation studio, I got to spend several weeks in Tokyo supervising the show and I had the privilege of working with my friend and mentor Hilary J. Bader on one of her last jobs before she died. Anyway, thanks for watching... at least someone's getting to see it!
(Wright comments) Storyboard package/script ideas.
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Post by TV Eye on Dec 8, 2010 23:27:54 GMT -5
I've seen that pilot before. The art and animation is fantastic!
Here's another pilot that aired on Adult Swim awhile back. It's called "Welcome to Eltingville" and is about a bunch of nerds and geeks. Pop culture jokes abound.
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
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Post by Neomysterion on Dec 9, 2010 23:56:25 GMT -5
Come on, anyone gonna watch/comment on The Modifyers pilot? Mind if I comment on The Modifyers? I actually watched the full video of this on Facebook a month or two ago, and I actually loved it. Such a shame that Nickelodeon didn't pick this series up. I may consider putting a sneak peek of this in one of my fantasy schedules someday. Thanks for that, Da Robot.
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Post by Da Robot on Dec 15, 2010 16:32:39 GMT -5
Come on, anyone gonna watch/comment on The Modifyers pilot? Mind if I comment on The Modifyers? I actually watched the full video of this on Facebook a month or two ago, and I actually loved it. Such a shame that Nickelodeon didn't pick this series up. I may consider putting a sneak peek of this in one of my fantasy schedules someday. Thanks for that, Da Robot. Your welcome, it's good to see another comment about The Modifyers. And due to broadband limits it might be a while before I see that Welcome to Eltingville pilot you posted TV Eye. Also I saw this from another website that showed the Constant Payne pilot, has a comment from Micah Wright (Don't know if it's fake or not but it sounds real enough). Hey, thanks for the good review!
As for Payne, while Nickelodeon moved on in 2001, I certainly have my DVDs of the show’s designs and I’m just waiting for two more executives at Nick to move to different companies and then I’m going back in to pitch the new management. Success is the best revenge, and revenge is a dish best served cold… and if they say “No Thanks,” well, there’s always Nickelodeon Films…
As for the depths of the show, well, we knew we were only making a 10-minute “taste” of what the show would truly be like, but we crammed in as many hints and clues as we could in those 10 minutes. One of the things that terrified Nickelodeon the most was to tell one big long story. Nick’s complaint was that this limited how they could show the series in reruns, but evidently they got over that idea because they let Avatar do it. (they’re also letting Avatar make a new Steampunk show now… hmmm, I wonder where they got THAT idea?). Anyway, Amanda was supposed to start out as 15 and over the course of 5 years grow up with the audience, aging one year each season, with more and more of the family’s dark past dripping out over the years.
Someday.According Joe Murray's book "Creating animated cartoons with character"[/i], pitching a rejected show again to the same network with new excutives can actually work to get it green lit. In other animation related stuff . . . Here's an interview on Screwattack interview with George Kristic co-creator of the American mecha parody Megas XLR (he's also a creator of Downtown and some SW: Clone Wars (err the 3D one) episodes. Also here's a short 3 minute pilot for a Buffy The Vampire Slayer animated series that was never picked up. Most of the cast for live action version actually did there respective voice roles for this show and Joss Whedon was involved with this.
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Post by The Qu on Dec 15, 2010 21:29:01 GMT -5
Welcome to Eltingville was created by Evan Dorkin, a major comic book creator on the indie scene, responsible for Milk and Cheese, a surrealist romp through homicidal dairy products.
I'm really sad that Eltingville wasn't picked up. It was hilarious, especially for nerds. The bit about the legendary rocket firing Boba Fett is magnificent.
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