Destructoid's review of EM: PoI states that the team behind it (Dreamrift) has less than a year to make the game and had to cut content to make the game (suggested to be an entire world/section based on Alice in Wonderland)
Also if your going to buy EM2, it's reviews indicate that it's better to play co-op as Oswald's AI is . . . poor.
The original EM was puposely rushed out for Christmas 2010 and it obviously appears the same has happened here. Which it quite sad to see such a "big" franchise/s get screwed over again with a inferior product just to increase potential christmas sales from customers who don't know any better, instead of delaying and making a higher quality product.
"A bad game is bad forever, while a delayed game is eventually good." - Shigeru Miyamoto
For the record, the game is quite good if you look past the (IMO minor) complaints. Literally the only complaints I have is Os' AI isn't just bad, it's bizarre and the game is quite glitchy. But excluding a single apocalyptic glitch I've gotten, that isn't so bad.
Post by Nester the Lark on Jan 29, 2013 14:05:24 GMT -5
Unfortunately, after poor sales of Epic Mickey 2, Disney has shut down Junction Point Studios.
It's kinda shocking that after the original game sold 1.3 million units by the end of 2010 (impressive for a 3rd party Wii exclusive), the sequel sold only about 270,000 in a similar time frame, despite being available on four different platforms. I suppose I'm partially guilty since I have yet to get around to picking up the sequel myself.
It's also confirmed that Warren Specter will not continue working for Disney, so we'll probably never see that DuckTales game he wanted to work on.
The only game Disney is focusing on now is Disney Infinity.
On a slightly related note, Junction Point is the 2nd developer game developer based in Austin, Texas to get shut this month (Vigil Games creators of Darksiders, due to THQ going bankrupt)
Thankfully Austin has a few established developers there who happened to be hiring such as Nintendo's Retro Studios who hired a few Vigil staff while Crytek (Crysis) opened up a new studio there and hired the rest of their Vigils staff, so maybe the same might happen to some of JP employees looking for new work there.
EDIT: Another thing I forgot to mention, at least the EM series as a whole brought a whole lot of attention to the character of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit.
How many of you ever heard of him before 2010? I know I didn't.
Last Edit: Jan 29, 2013 17:18:02 GMT -5 by Da Robot
Post by Nester the Lark on Jan 29, 2013 18:16:54 GMT -5
Those numbers are probably more accurate since they come directly from NPD. Still, it's pretty pathetic compared with the original game. At least people can't blame its failure on the Wii.
I think I had heard of Oswald before Epic Mickey, but it was nothing more than obscure trivia that I had forgotten. I hope we get to see more of him.
I also loved the design they used for Mickey in the EM games. It's very classic, and cooler looking than the more traditional modern version. I'll be sad if it disappears.
EDIT: Warren Specter has posted an open letter on his Facebook page:
Yes, it's true. The Junction Point journey is over. To all those who've asked, or want to ask, I'm sad but excited for the future.
JPS had a good eight year run. I got to work with some amazing people on some amazing projects. I've had some of the most magical times of my life, fulfilling several life-long dreams. I've gotten to know Disney fans and Disney cast members, gotten hands on with Disney's history, walked where Walt walked... "Magical" really is the only word.
But now it's time to... (Man, I almost said, "now it's time to say goodbye to all our fa-mi-ly..." Which would have led me right to "M-I-C-K-E-Y-M-O-U-S-E!"). Let's just say, now it's time to move on to the next adventure. I honestly don't know what that will be yet, so don't ask. (And while we're on the subject of asking, if you're a journalist, don't bother - all press inquiries go to Brian Nelson and Carrie Davis over at Disney.)
Anyway, whatever you think of me, or Junction Point, or Disney or the Disney Epic Mickey games - yes, I know we polarized people! - I'll always look back on the last eight years with nothing but pride. Rarely have I worked with a team more dedicated or harder working. Never have I been part of a game - of anything, really - that touched people at as deep or personal a level as the Epic Mickey games. That's priceless.
I said to myself as Junction Point embarked on the Epic Mickey journey that, worst case, we'd be "a footnote in Disney history." Looking back on it, I think we did far better than that. With Mickey Mouse as our hero, we introduced a mainstream audience to some cool "core game" concepts... and, most especially, we restored Oswald the Lucky Rabbit to a place of prominence.
WE did that.
I'll always be grateful to Disney for that opportunity, to the folks who helped out along the way in Glendale, on the studio lot in Burbank, at the parks in Anaheim and Orlando and Paris, at Disney offices around the world and at Pixar. (You know who you are!) I'm grateful to the Disney fans, bloggers and historians who embraced me, the team and our work - that was huge. And, most especially, I'll always be grateful to the folks – the family – at Junction Point who did all the real work.
I'll see all of you in the future!
And, really, press inquiries go to Brian and Carrie!
Post by Nester the Lark on Aug 20, 2016 11:10:37 GMT -5
Here's some interesting news. According to Disney illustrator Pat Block, if Epic Mickey 2 had been successful, Disney planned to follow it up with an "Epic Donald" game. He was selling his concept art for it on eBay, and you can see it here.
Looks like it would've been the closest Warren Spector could get to making that DuckTales game.
Nester the Lark: Here's an archive of results from the Everybody Votes channel. I found my poll question in the US English section for September 1, 2009.
Apr 30, 2021 10:14:55 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Do you consider yourself to be more of a ... Romantic: 39.1% Realist: 60.9% This one, right? So… what's your own vote to that question? (I'd have picked realist.)
May 6, 2021 9:58:40 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: ^ At the time, I think I picked romantic. Not sure what I'd pick today. I feel like I'm somewhere in between.
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Nester the Lark: Lately, the forum feels more like "Nester & YL's clubhouse."
May 29, 2021 11:45:28 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Looking at the other members' last online date, I can safely say that this place is pretty much inactive by now.
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Nester the Lark: Looking at an old post I wrote two years ago, I noticed I misspelled "threw" as "through," and now I'm angry at myself.
Jun 13, 2021 16:05:31 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: …Why am I still seeking gaming news when I have 7 games yet to complete and at least 2 more that I plan to get? (EDIT — Oh right, Ys IX has a confirmed release date. That makes at least 3 games I'll get later.)
Jun 14, 2021 10:18:41 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: My current plan is to play Atelier Firis DX now, which online guides suggest is long. Atelier Lydie & Suelle DX will likewise be long (longer than the original too, due to DLC, DX additions and I'll make the best items). I'll maybe play Ys Origin after.
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nocturnal YL: Not sure about what I'll play after. Another Atelier game will probably be out by then, either completing the Secret series or giving us Arland 5. Either way, I'll probably play those before going elsewhere. Dusk will have to wait for quite a bit…
Jun 14, 2021 10:31:02 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Wondering if I should get Mario Golf at launch or wait a couple of months. I have so many other things to play that my gaming (and wallet) might need a little breathing room.
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Nester the Lark: The problem with playing Hyrule Warriors and a modern Ys game at the same time is that even though the combat feels somewhat similar, the controls are completely different, and I get confused.
Jun 23, 2021 8:57:58 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: Yeah I'm here, but kinda vaguely. Sorry, I haven't had too much to say lately.
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Shrikeswind: By the way, I don't know if you guys have been keeping up with OCR on YouTube, but apparently they're dropping an album for a game I grew up on, Jet Force Gemini. Really pumped; I'll post a review when they finish.
Jul 8, 2021 11:30:44 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: Or at least when my Top 3 from that game are on the Toobz. Just one more song to go.
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Nester the Lark: I feel like I've been neglecting the forum more than usual lately. Been distracted by other things. I'll try to post something when I get the chance.
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nocturnal YL: I don't have time to make posts. Atelier Firis DX takes forever to play. When I'm not playing, I'm in a read-only mode, reading guides and watching (unrelated) videos.
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nocturnal YL: On that note, I'll probably make a review on the whole trilogy, so it will be a while until I talk about these games in details here. I can say Atelier Firis DX has far exceeded my expectation and has taken over Totori as my 3rd fav.
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