Destructoid's review of EM: PoI states that the team behind it (Dreamrift) has less than a year to make the game and had to cut content to make the game (suggested to be an entire world/section based on Alice in Wonderland)
Also if your going to buy EM2, it's reviews indicate that it's better to play co-op as Oswald's AI is . . . poor.
The original EM was puposely rushed out for Christmas 2010 and it obviously appears the same has happened here. Which it quite sad to see such a "big" franchise/s get screwed over again with a inferior product just to increase potential christmas sales from customers who don't know any better, instead of delaying and making a higher quality product.
"A bad game is bad forever, while a delayed game is eventually good." - Shigeru Miyamoto
For the record, the game is quite good if you look past the (IMO minor) complaints. Literally the only complaints I have is Os' AI isn't just bad, it's bizarre and the game is quite glitchy. But excluding a single apocalyptic glitch I've gotten, that isn't so bad.
Post by Nester the Lark on Jan 29, 2013 14:05:24 GMT -5
Unfortunately, after poor sales of Epic Mickey 2, Disney has shut down Junction Point Studios.
It's kinda shocking that after the original game sold 1.3 million units by the end of 2010 (impressive for a 3rd party Wii exclusive), the sequel sold only about 270,000 in a similar time frame, despite being available on four different platforms. I suppose I'm partially guilty since I have yet to get around to picking up the sequel myself.
It's also confirmed that Warren Specter will not continue working for Disney, so we'll probably never see that DuckTales game he wanted to work on.
The only game Disney is focusing on now is Disney Infinity.
On a slightly related note, Junction Point is the 2nd developer game developer based in Austin, Texas to get shut this month (Vigil Games creators of Darksiders, due to THQ going bankrupt)
Thankfully Austin has a few established developers there who happened to be hiring such as Nintendo's Retro Studios who hired a few Vigil staff while Crytek (Crysis) opened up a new studio there and hired the rest of their Vigils staff, so maybe the same might happen to some of JP employees looking for new work there.
EDIT: Another thing I forgot to mention, at least the EM series as a whole brought a whole lot of attention to the character of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit.
How many of you ever heard of him before 2010? I know I didn't.
Last Edit: Jan 29, 2013 17:18:02 GMT -5 by Da Robot
Post by Nester the Lark on Jan 29, 2013 18:16:54 GMT -5
Those numbers are probably more accurate since they come directly from NPD. Still, it's pretty pathetic compared with the original game. At least people can't blame its failure on the Wii.
I think I had heard of Oswald before Epic Mickey, but it was nothing more than obscure trivia that I had forgotten. I hope we get to see more of him.
I also loved the design they used for Mickey in the EM games. It's very classic, and cooler looking than the more traditional modern version. I'll be sad if it disappears.
EDIT: Warren Specter has posted an open letter on his Facebook page:
Yes, it's true. The Junction Point journey is over. To all those who've asked, or want to ask, I'm sad but excited for the future.
JPS had a good eight year run. I got to work with some amazing people on some amazing projects. I've had some of the most magical times of my life, fulfilling several life-long dreams. I've gotten to know Disney fans and Disney cast members, gotten hands on with Disney's history, walked where Walt walked... "Magical" really is the only word.
But now it's time to... (Man, I almost said, "now it's time to say goodbye to all our fa-mi-ly..." Which would have led me right to "M-I-C-K-E-Y-M-O-U-S-E!"). Let's just say, now it's time to move on to the next adventure. I honestly don't know what that will be yet, so don't ask. (And while we're on the subject of asking, if you're a journalist, don't bother - all press inquiries go to Brian Nelson and Carrie Davis over at Disney.)
Anyway, whatever you think of me, or Junction Point, or Disney or the Disney Epic Mickey games - yes, I know we polarized people! - I'll always look back on the last eight years with nothing but pride. Rarely have I worked with a team more dedicated or harder working. Never have I been part of a game - of anything, really - that touched people at as deep or personal a level as the Epic Mickey games. That's priceless.
I said to myself as Junction Point embarked on the Epic Mickey journey that, worst case, we'd be "a footnote in Disney history." Looking back on it, I think we did far better than that. With Mickey Mouse as our hero, we introduced a mainstream audience to some cool "core game" concepts... and, most especially, we restored Oswald the Lucky Rabbit to a place of prominence.
WE did that.
I'll always be grateful to Disney for that opportunity, to the folks who helped out along the way in Glendale, on the studio lot in Burbank, at the parks in Anaheim and Orlando and Paris, at Disney offices around the world and at Pixar. (You know who you are!) I'm grateful to the Disney fans, bloggers and historians who embraced me, the team and our work - that was huge. And, most especially, I'll always be grateful to the folks – the family – at Junction Point who did all the real work.
I'll see all of you in the future!
And, really, press inquiries go to Brian and Carrie!
Post by Nester the Lark on Aug 20, 2016 11:10:37 GMT -5
Here's some interesting news. According to Disney illustrator Pat Block, if Epic Mickey 2 had been successful, Disney planned to follow it up with an "Epic Donald" game. He was selling his concept art for it on eBay, and you can see it here.
Looks like it would've been the closest Warren Spector could get to making that DuckTales game.
Nester the Lark: First, The Pokémon Company gets into trouble with that whole Pokémon Masters EX hashtag business, and now this.
Jan 14, 2023 9:55:16 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: That's very embarrassing (and also entertaining). But I wonder why would The Pokémon Company post something they probably didn't make themselves?
Jan 14, 2023 17:56:51 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Got to the ending of Xenoblade. I'll do the post-game contents in Casual Mode since they started to feel grindy. I'll also go back to the parts I skipped (mostly quests and Colony 6); there isn't much reason to play NG+, so I'll just complete the 1st run.
Jan 14, 2023 23:39:45 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: I'd like to be playing Fire Emblem Engage, but it wasn't delivered when it was supposed to be, and the shipment tracking hasn't been updated, so I have no idea what happened to it.
Jan 21, 2023 18:21:51 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Times like this make me wonder if Sakurai had the right idea, and buying games digitally is the way to go.
Jan 21, 2023 18:23:18 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Digital is usually more expensive and Switch only supports up to 2TB storage (about 140 to 200 games), but if you want to play games as soon as possible, it's the way to go.
Jan 22, 2023 1:48:00 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: I don't know when will I be getting it. I'm still interested, but it's no longer the "pre-order, premium version" kind of interested. These days I order games in bulks, so maybe I'll wait.
Jan 22, 2023 1:49:34 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Finally, an update. It's marked as "out for delivery" again. Fingers crossed.
Jan 23, 2023 12:58:22 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: About the prices of digital games, I often find that when they go on sale, it's usually for very cheap prices. Except for first-party Nintendo games, which rarely go on sale, and not usually for that big of a discount.
Jan 23, 2023 13:01:40 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: But then, first-party Nintendo games usually hold their value for a long time even physically.
Jan 23, 2023 13:02:21 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Welp, that's 0 for 2 on the delivery.
Jan 23, 2023 23:11:36 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: And it's out for delivery again. Third time's the charm?
Jan 26, 2023 12:54:55 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: And that's 0 for 3 on the delivery.
Jan 27, 2023 9:49:06 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: So, the delivery company gave up and sent the game back to the retailer. My order is being cancelled and money refunded.
Jan 27, 2023 20:41:21 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: I've been in contact with a customer service rep from the retailer all week, and they didn't understand why the package wasn't being delivered, either. But they're sending me a $30 gift card for the trouble, so that takes the sting out of it.
Jan 27, 2023 20:43:16 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Still considering the digital option at this point.
Jan 27, 2023 20:53:05 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Went back to my Wii U and downloaded updates / free DLC for games I don't have, in case I want to buy those.
Jan 30, 2023 7:22:29 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Wii U having only 32GB of storage isn't helpful at all. 3DS and Switch are expandable via SD cards, while Wii U only supports USB hard disks. It made sense in 2012, but with SD cards going up to 2TB now, not supporting that sounds silly now.
Jan 30, 2023 7:27:19 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: What started off as me checking what can I do with the Wii U ended up with me just having fun with the system. Also relieved that it still works perfectly fine after 2 years of disuse. Except the Wii U GamePad vibration motor, which now makes weird noises.
Jan 30, 2023 12:43:42 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: I actually planned to use a mod to dump my games and save data, so that in case anything happens to it I can move on to emulation (since, unlike Switch, there's no save data backup service). I haven't started doing that, though.
Jan 30, 2023 12:45:00 GMT -5