Just in case, 8bit's second video pretty much confirms what were we're thinking about the rocky stage with a tent: Gerudo Valley. Makes sense to revive OoT goodness on the 3DS version, since that game helped the 3DS pull some dead weight back in the day.
I wonder if we'll get any new characters during what's left of E3. I know we'd see Chrom in there. The Ferox Arena reeks of Awakening and a newcomer from said game.
Something I've noticed, with Sakurai's affinity for items, no trailer I've seen has mentioned many of them. All I've seen is the capsule. Anyone know of any E3 gameplay? I hope the item drop rate is more akin to Melee's.
Post by Dances in Undergarments on Jun 11, 2013 19:07:33 GMT -5
Oh man, what have I woken up to? Wii Fit trainer is great. Its such an odd choice, and, like Sakurai himself said, nobody would have predicted it.
I wonder if it means there will actually be a sizeable addition of newcomers, too? I would think that if they only had a smaller amount of new characters, they'd hold off showing a surprise character like this pretty much straight away.
Other than that, a lot of my speculation turned out right, and we can add a Wii Fit stage to the WiiU list. Awesome.
edit: Here's some gameplay video, at about 4 minutes in. I like the "I'll get you next time, Megaman" at the end - wonder if they're adding personalised messages like that for everyone, or if its just for this demo
Post by Dances in Undergarments on Jun 11, 2013 19:42:02 GMT -5
There's a rumour going round that some website was told about these 3 characters before the game was revealed, and that person was also told Little Mac, Pacman and Mii would be revealed at E3. I think its bullshit ("oh yeah guys, I already knew all that stuff, I just didn't tell you"), but it wouldn't surprise me if a) all those characters were actually in and b) we saw more characters during E3.
I will be honest... when I first heard that Wii Fit Trainer was in SSB4, I thought it was bullshit and stupid. Once I saw the trailer with her, I was taken aback by her mannequin-like appearance but the design grew on me... especially after seeing her in action. I thought it was hilarious how she fought by doing yoga poses and shooting rainbow yoga poses. Only Sakurai could have come up with something so absurd and make it look awesome.
I just realized that when you abbreviate her name to WFT, it is almost like WTF misspelled. It is rather fitting, given how WFT is the WTF character of SSB4. Hahahaha!! I wonder if there is someone more WTF-y than her in SSB4. Hmmm...
So will the character roster be different between both versions, too? Because if stages are different, there won't be playtime compatibility... and no need to have exactly the same set of characters.
Sakurai's pretty vague about that. In his Developer Direct he said 'the same amount of characters, but different stages'. I'm hoping the roster's the same atleast, splitting it up between two different versions is just cruel.
Oh, no! They're replacing the Soccer Ball from Soccer with one from Wii Fit.
I don't think that's the case; Wii Fit Trainer has a ball that comes with one of her moves. I imagine Mario's fiddling around with that ball (glad to see that the screenshots retain that "Smash Bros." zaniness I love).
Really stoked about the game, as par the course. Wii Fit Trainer is such a "WTF" character that I'm absolutely enthralled by her. She's just so out there and weird, and it's that brazen design choice that I think defines the series at times. A villager from Animal Crossing is a good choice as well; I do wonder if there will be female alts in the color list. And Mega Man! I am SO happy to see him in Smash Bros.; he looks like he'll be a perfect new addition. The stage guesses seem on track so far. Gerudo Valley seems to be the 3DS' Bridge of Eldin, and it's nice to see Ocarina get a proper stage in this one. Toon Link potentially being benched is also intriguing. Ah, I can't wait for the Dojo to start up!
Post by nocturnal YL on Jun 12, 2013 14:13:33 GMT -5
Ah, I was about to point that out. That should be the same ball the Wii Fit Trainer pulls out with her move.
Currently, the Trainer stands out because she's the only human character with white skin and otherwise doesn't look like a game character. She'll probably look less out of place when more characters show up.
I don't exactly care about what charcters get axed (though, again, I want to see Marth gone in favour of two FE characters from the same game, even though it sounds unlikely). Mega Man looks perfect, but I'd complain a little about the Villager in the game. Why didn't they take the New Leaf mayor? Not much of an actual complaint, since it won't actually make any gameplay difference. And if anything, I like how those trailers acknowledged the original universes of all those characters. Hopefully I won't have to see nonsense like Ike being slow or Falco driving Landmaster again.
Can't wait to see the Smash Bros. website to switch to a Brawl-like blog model. I guess I'm less patient after seeing the first batch of information now.
Post by parrothead on Jun 12, 2013 14:28:49 GMT -5
Out of all three newcomers, I can't decide which to choose. Villager, collecting is interesting (especially rare stuff), making him okay, but not always. Mega Man, overrated (especially how he appears and sounds). Wii Fit Trainer, interesting idea, but I am not into Wii Fit.
In my speculation, Nintendo will focus mostly on representing games that are either modern or both, classic and highly-praised.
Post by nocturnal YL on Jun 12, 2013 16:23:49 GMT -5
For those of you who are wondering, the gameplay videos you see of Sakurai talking about the game mechanics have him controlling both characters. How? Like this: /photo/1
Talking while moving two controllers with both hands. That's some serious multitasking.
We've seen demonstrations like Mega Man knocking Mario off and Mario recovering, and that's the work of one single person using two mirrored hands to move two non-mirrored controllers. I know he's a good gamer and a good thinker (not good enough to remember to backup his PS3 saves, but still), but this is simply mind-blowing.
nocturnal YL: I've been thinking about how would things turn out if we do another NinDB Top 25 after 5 years passed. One thing I'm sure is that the participation rate would remain low.
Aug 16, 2020 13:17:30 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: So, having said in my post in Dream Fighters what I've been spending my quarantine on, what about you guys? How are you hanging onto sanity?
Aug 24, 2020 23:16:48 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: Also I don't know that I've ever spent as long building a Smash fighter as I did with WG, and I'm going to hit this one hard here, it was all the costume work.
Aug 25, 2020 5:28:43 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: I'm reminded why I don't bother with that. I had the luxury of easy-to-grab screenshots and it still took literal hours to finish that post.
Aug 25, 2020 5:29:24 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Let's not talk about me and sanity.
Aug 25, 2020 10:19:20 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: Very well, we shall talk of other things, like shoes and ships and sealing wax, and cabbages and kings, and why the sea is boiling hot, and whether pigs have wings.
Aug 25, 2020 11:51:55 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: It strikes me that perhaps I should not be mentioned in the same breath as sanity myself.
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Boo Destroyer: RuneScape.... I haven't heard that name in a long, long time.
Aug 27, 2020 18:35:05 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: I still play. Matter of fact, I'm currently playing. It actually just came out with a new skill this past March, if you can believe it.
Aug 28, 2020 2:59:22 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: In a way, I'm glad I'm unrelated to those fan communities of the games I play. I just sit back and play games casually, not really caring whatever scandals or elitism or holier-than-thou attitudes going on.
Sept 1, 2020 12:04:16 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: I think I need to track down some horribly cursed Pokemon content now after that. You know, since that was such a heavy topic to drop in the middle of a quiet forum.
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