Just in case, 8bit's second video pretty much confirms what were we're thinking about the rocky stage with a tent: Gerudo Valley. Makes sense to revive OoT goodness on the 3DS version, since that game helped the 3DS pull some dead weight back in the day.
I wonder if we'll get any new characters during what's left of E3. I know we'd see Chrom in there. The Ferox Arena reeks of Awakening and a newcomer from said game.
Something I've noticed, with Sakurai's affinity for items, no trailer I've seen has mentioned many of them. All I've seen is the capsule. Anyone know of any E3 gameplay? I hope the item drop rate is more akin to Melee's.
Post by Dances in Undergarments on Jun 11, 2013 19:07:33 GMT -5
Oh man, what have I woken up to? Wii Fit trainer is great. Its such an odd choice, and, like Sakurai himself said, nobody would have predicted it.
I wonder if it means there will actually be a sizeable addition of newcomers, too? I would think that if they only had a smaller amount of new characters, they'd hold off showing a surprise character like this pretty much straight away.
Other than that, a lot of my speculation turned out right, and we can add a Wii Fit stage to the WiiU list. Awesome.
edit: Here's some gameplay video, at about 4 minutes in. I like the "I'll get you next time, Megaman" at the end - wonder if they're adding personalised messages like that for everyone, or if its just for this demo
Post by Dances in Undergarments on Jun 11, 2013 19:42:02 GMT -5
There's a rumour going round that some website was told about these 3 characters before the game was revealed, and that person was also told Little Mac, Pacman and Mii would be revealed at E3. I think its bullshit ("oh yeah guys, I already knew all that stuff, I just didn't tell you"), but it wouldn't surprise me if a) all those characters were actually in and b) we saw more characters during E3.
I will be honest... when I first heard that Wii Fit Trainer was in SSB4, I thought it was bullshit and stupid. Once I saw the trailer with her, I was taken aback by her mannequin-like appearance but the design grew on me... especially after seeing her in action. I thought it was hilarious how she fought by doing yoga poses and shooting rainbow yoga poses. Only Sakurai could have come up with something so absurd and make it look awesome.
I just realized that when you abbreviate her name to WFT, it is almost like WTF misspelled. It is rather fitting, given how WFT is the WTF character of SSB4. Hahahaha!! I wonder if there is someone more WTF-y than her in SSB4. Hmmm...
So will the character roster be different between both versions, too? Because if stages are different, there won't be playtime compatibility... and no need to have exactly the same set of characters.
Sakurai's pretty vague about that. In his Developer Direct he said 'the same amount of characters, but different stages'. I'm hoping the roster's the same atleast, splitting it up between two different versions is just cruel.
Oh, no! They're replacing the Soccer Ball from Soccer with one from Wii Fit.
I don't think that's the case; Wii Fit Trainer has a ball that comes with one of her moves. I imagine Mario's fiddling around with that ball (glad to see that the screenshots retain that "Smash Bros." zaniness I love).
Really stoked about the game, as par the course. Wii Fit Trainer is such a "WTF" character that I'm absolutely enthralled by her. She's just so out there and weird, and it's that brazen design choice that I think defines the series at times. A villager from Animal Crossing is a good choice as well; I do wonder if there will be female alts in the color list. And Mega Man! I am SO happy to see him in Smash Bros.; he looks like he'll be a perfect new addition. The stage guesses seem on track so far. Gerudo Valley seems to be the 3DS' Bridge of Eldin, and it's nice to see Ocarina get a proper stage in this one. Toon Link potentially being benched is also intriguing. Ah, I can't wait for the Dojo to start up!
Post by nocturnal YL on Jun 12, 2013 14:13:33 GMT -5
Ah, I was about to point that out. That should be the same ball the Wii Fit Trainer pulls out with her move.
Currently, the Trainer stands out because she's the only human character with white skin and otherwise doesn't look like a game character. She'll probably look less out of place when more characters show up.
I don't exactly care about what charcters get axed (though, again, I want to see Marth gone in favour of two FE characters from the same game, even though it sounds unlikely). Mega Man looks perfect, but I'd complain a little about the Villager in the game. Why didn't they take the New Leaf mayor? Not much of an actual complaint, since it won't actually make any gameplay difference. And if anything, I like how those trailers acknowledged the original universes of all those characters. Hopefully I won't have to see nonsense like Ike being slow or Falco driving Landmaster again.
Can't wait to see the Smash Bros. website to switch to a Brawl-like blog model. I guess I'm less patient after seeing the first batch of information now.
Post by parrothead on Jun 12, 2013 14:28:49 GMT -5
Out of all three newcomers, I can't decide which to choose. Villager, collecting is interesting (especially rare stuff), making him okay, but not always. Mega Man, overrated (especially how he appears and sounds). Wii Fit Trainer, interesting idea, but I am not into Wii Fit.
In my speculation, Nintendo will focus mostly on representing games that are either modern or both, classic and highly-praised.
Post by nocturnal YL on Jun 12, 2013 16:23:49 GMT -5
For those of you who are wondering, the gameplay videos you see of Sakurai talking about the game mechanics have him controlling both characters. How? Like this: /photo/1
Talking while moving two controllers with both hands. That's some serious multitasking.
We've seen demonstrations like Mega Man knocking Mario off and Mario recovering, and that's the work of one single person using two mirrored hands to move two non-mirrored controllers. I know he's a good gamer and a good thinker (not good enough to remember to backup his PS3 saves, but still), but this is simply mind-blowing.
Nester the Lark: First, The Pokémon Company gets into trouble with that whole Pokémon Masters EX hashtag business, and now this.
Jan 14, 2023 9:55:16 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: That's very embarrassing (and also entertaining). But I wonder why would The Pokémon Company post something they probably didn't make themselves?
Jan 14, 2023 17:56:51 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Got to the ending of Xenoblade. I'll do the post-game contents in Casual Mode since they started to feel grindy. I'll also go back to the parts I skipped (mostly quests and Colony 6); there isn't much reason to play NG+, so I'll just complete the 1st run.
Jan 14, 2023 23:39:45 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: I'd like to be playing Fire Emblem Engage, but it wasn't delivered when it was supposed to be, and the shipment tracking hasn't been updated, so I have no idea what happened to it.
Jan 21, 2023 18:21:51 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Times like this make me wonder if Sakurai had the right idea, and buying games digitally is the way to go.
Jan 21, 2023 18:23:18 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Digital is usually more expensive and Switch only supports up to 2TB storage (about 140 to 200 games), but if you want to play games as soon as possible, it's the way to go.
Jan 22, 2023 1:48:00 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: I don't know when will I be getting it. I'm still interested, but it's no longer the "pre-order, premium version" kind of interested. These days I order games in bulks, so maybe I'll wait.
Jan 22, 2023 1:49:34 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Finally, an update. It's marked as "out for delivery" again. Fingers crossed.
Jan 23, 2023 12:58:22 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: About the prices of digital games, I often find that when they go on sale, it's usually for very cheap prices. Except for first-party Nintendo games, which rarely go on sale, and not usually for that big of a discount.
Jan 23, 2023 13:01:40 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: But then, first-party Nintendo games usually hold their value for a long time even physically.
Jan 23, 2023 13:02:21 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Welp, that's 0 for 2 on the delivery.
Jan 23, 2023 23:11:36 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: And it's out for delivery again. Third time's the charm?
Jan 26, 2023 12:54:55 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: And that's 0 for 3 on the delivery.
Jan 27, 2023 9:49:06 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: So, the delivery company gave up and sent the game back to the retailer. My order is being cancelled and money refunded.
Jan 27, 2023 20:41:21 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: I've been in contact with a customer service rep from the retailer all week, and they didn't understand why the package wasn't being delivered, either. But they're sending me a $30 gift card for the trouble, so that takes the sting out of it.
Jan 27, 2023 20:43:16 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Still considering the digital option at this point.
Jan 27, 2023 20:53:05 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Went back to my Wii U and downloaded updates / free DLC for games I don't have, in case I want to buy those.
Jan 30, 2023 7:22:29 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Wii U having only 32GB of storage isn't helpful at all. 3DS and Switch are expandable via SD cards, while Wii U only supports USB hard disks. It made sense in 2012, but with SD cards going up to 2TB now, not supporting that sounds silly now.
Jan 30, 2023 7:27:19 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: What started off as me checking what can I do with the Wii U ended up with me just having fun with the system. Also relieved that it still works perfectly fine after 2 years of disuse. Except the Wii U GamePad vibration motor, which now makes weird noises.
Jan 30, 2023 12:43:42 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: I actually planned to use a mod to dump my games and save data, so that in case anything happens to it I can move on to emulation (since, unlike Switch, there's no save data backup service). I haven't started doing that, though.
Jan 30, 2023 12:45:00 GMT -5