Just in case, 8bit's second video pretty much confirms what were we're thinking about the rocky stage with a tent: Gerudo Valley. Makes sense to revive OoT goodness on the 3DS version, since that game helped the 3DS pull some dead weight back in the day.
I wonder if we'll get any new characters during what's left of E3. I know we'd see Chrom in there. The Ferox Arena reeks of Awakening and a newcomer from said game.
Something I've noticed, with Sakurai's affinity for items, no trailer I've seen has mentioned many of them. All I've seen is the capsule. Anyone know of any E3 gameplay? I hope the item drop rate is more akin to Melee's.
Post by Dances in Undergarments on Jun 11, 2013 19:07:33 GMT -5
Oh man, what have I woken up to? Wii Fit trainer is great. Its such an odd choice, and, like Sakurai himself said, nobody would have predicted it.
I wonder if it means there will actually be a sizeable addition of newcomers, too? I would think that if they only had a smaller amount of new characters, they'd hold off showing a surprise character like this pretty much straight away.
Other than that, a lot of my speculation turned out right, and we can add a Wii Fit stage to the WiiU list. Awesome.
edit: Here's some gameplay video, at about 4 minutes in. I like the "I'll get you next time, Megaman" at the end - wonder if they're adding personalised messages like that for everyone, or if its just for this demo
Post by Dances in Undergarments on Jun 11, 2013 19:42:02 GMT -5
There's a rumour going round that some website was told about these 3 characters before the game was revealed, and that person was also told Little Mac, Pacman and Mii would be revealed at E3. I think its bullshit ("oh yeah guys, I already knew all that stuff, I just didn't tell you"), but it wouldn't surprise me if a) all those characters were actually in and b) we saw more characters during E3.
I will be honest... when I first heard that Wii Fit Trainer was in SSB4, I thought it was bullshit and stupid. Once I saw the trailer with her, I was taken aback by her mannequin-like appearance but the design grew on me... especially after seeing her in action. I thought it was hilarious how she fought by doing yoga poses and shooting rainbow yoga poses. Only Sakurai could have come up with something so absurd and make it look awesome.
I just realized that when you abbreviate her name to WFT, it is almost like WTF misspelled. It is rather fitting, given how WFT is the WTF character of SSB4. Hahahaha!! I wonder if there is someone more WTF-y than her in SSB4. Hmmm...
So will the character roster be different between both versions, too? Because if stages are different, there won't be playtime compatibility... and no need to have exactly the same set of characters.
Sakurai's pretty vague about that. In his Developer Direct he said 'the same amount of characters, but different stages'. I'm hoping the roster's the same atleast, splitting it up between two different versions is just cruel.
Oh, no! They're replacing the Soccer Ball from Soccer with one from Wii Fit.
I don't think that's the case; Wii Fit Trainer has a ball that comes with one of her moves. I imagine Mario's fiddling around with that ball (glad to see that the screenshots retain that "Smash Bros." zaniness I love).
Really stoked about the game, as par the course. Wii Fit Trainer is such a "WTF" character that I'm absolutely enthralled by her. She's just so out there and weird, and it's that brazen design choice that I think defines the series at times. A villager from Animal Crossing is a good choice as well; I do wonder if there will be female alts in the color list. And Mega Man! I am SO happy to see him in Smash Bros.; he looks like he'll be a perfect new addition. The stage guesses seem on track so far. Gerudo Valley seems to be the 3DS' Bridge of Eldin, and it's nice to see Ocarina get a proper stage in this one. Toon Link potentially being benched is also intriguing. Ah, I can't wait for the Dojo to start up!
Post by nocturnal YL on Jun 12, 2013 14:13:33 GMT -5
Ah, I was about to point that out. That should be the same ball the Wii Fit Trainer pulls out with her move.
Currently, the Trainer stands out because she's the only human character with white skin and otherwise doesn't look like a game character. She'll probably look less out of place when more characters show up.
I don't exactly care about what charcters get axed (though, again, I want to see Marth gone in favour of two FE characters from the same game, even though it sounds unlikely). Mega Man looks perfect, but I'd complain a little about the Villager in the game. Why didn't they take the New Leaf mayor? Not much of an actual complaint, since it won't actually make any gameplay difference. And if anything, I like how those trailers acknowledged the original universes of all those characters. Hopefully I won't have to see nonsense like Ike being slow or Falco driving Landmaster again.
Can't wait to see the Smash Bros. website to switch to a Brawl-like blog model. I guess I'm less patient after seeing the first batch of information now.
Post by parrothead on Jun 12, 2013 14:28:49 GMT -5
Out of all three newcomers, I can't decide which to choose. Villager, collecting is interesting (especially rare stuff), making him okay, but not always. Mega Man, overrated (especially how he appears and sounds). Wii Fit Trainer, interesting idea, but I am not into Wii Fit.
In my speculation, Nintendo will focus mostly on representing games that are either modern or both, classic and highly-praised.
Post by nocturnal YL on Jun 12, 2013 16:23:49 GMT -5
For those of you who are wondering, the gameplay videos you see of Sakurai talking about the game mechanics have him controlling both characters. How? Like this: /photo/1
Talking while moving two controllers with both hands. That's some serious multitasking.
We've seen demonstrations like Mega Man knocking Mario off and Mario recovering, and that's the work of one single person using two mirrored hands to move two non-mirrored controllers. I know he's a good gamer and a good thinker (not good enough to remember to backup his PS3 saves, but still), but this is simply mind-blowing.
nocturnal YL: According to Nintendo's IR calendar, they're going to release their financial information up to December 2020 on 1 Feb. Switch sales (68.30 mil at Sep 2020) may very well surpass that of the 3DS (75.94 mil), but how will it compare to the GBA (81.51 mil)?
Jan 31, 2021 12:10:02 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: It's closer to the GBA sales than I thought. Switch hardware sales up to December 2020 is 79.87 mil, while I expected about 78 mil.
Feb 1, 2021 8:07:53 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Also, while they stopped counting 3DS and Wii U hardware sales, software went up from 385.12 mil to 385.85 mil and 103.27 mil to 103.31 mil. Switch software sales went from 456.49 mil to 532.34 mil, surpassing that of NES and Game Boy.
Feb 1, 2021 8:09:41 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: So now that I have a capture device, I've been looking at my games and tried to figure out the resolution and frame rate they run at. Trials Rising is 540p30, Project DIVA Mega Mix has the UI at 720p60 and the simpler, single-singer PVs run at 540p60…?
Feb 6, 2021 11:42:34 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: All the Atelier games I've seen so far (Arland 1-4) run at 1080p30, which is a bit surprising as I expected a lower resolution for Lulua. Void Terrarium and Puyo Puyo Tetris 1 and 2 all run at 1080p60. PPT1 also ran at 1080p60 on Wii U, so no surprise.
Feb 6, 2021 11:45:41 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: ↑ In Atelier Lulua, the system UI and even some parts with 3D models (like the synthesis screen) run at full 1080p at 60 fps. That's a huge leap from the previous two games in the series. World map runs at 30 fps though, despite not being intensive.
Feb 8, 2021 11:13:44 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Rune Factory 4 Special runs at 720p60. Fire Emblem Three Houses is a weird case; it looks like 900p30 to me, but because of the way the edge of the models are drawn, the graphics end up looking very ugly.
Feb 8, 2021 11:15:06 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: I've been doing the same thing I do every time I consider getting Smash Ultimate: playing Smash for Wii U. It turns out there are still plenty of people playing it online. Makes me curious about Splatoon 1.
Feb 20, 2021 10:08:42 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: The online also worked better than I remember. Maybe because there are fewer people...?
Feb 20, 2021 10:10:09 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: My skill curve in Smash Bros seems to be the opposite of other games: the more I play, the worse I get.
Feb 23, 2021 17:28:27 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: TIL I had not yet unlocked all the stages in Smash for Wii U. Just unlocked the last one today, six years after getting the game.
Feb 24, 2021 18:35:31 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: If you want a new perspective on your own Mario Maker levels, just wait more than three years before playing them again.
Mar 6, 2021 9:44:32 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: This kind of reminds me of modern 3D printing, where the software needs to formulate the steps for replicating the object rather than just going in a simple 2D matrix manner as in inkjet printing. Nice video.
Apr 3, 2021 9:13:25 GMT -5
Evie the Mother Hen ❤✿: From the looks of it we could create a Pokémon Family ROM hack, FE Family, etc.; but if the number of stiching points was changed from the original design you'd need to fix that with more hacking.
Apr 6, 2021 14:22:17 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: I'm working on something for the forum. Hopefully I'll have it finished this week.
Apr 10, 2021 11:30:13 GMT -5