Just in case, 8bit's second video pretty much confirms what were we're thinking about the rocky stage with a tent: Gerudo Valley. Makes sense to revive OoT goodness on the 3DS version, since that game helped the 3DS pull some dead weight back in the day.
I wonder if we'll get any new characters during what's left of E3. I know we'd see Chrom in there. The Ferox Arena reeks of Awakening and a newcomer from said game.
Something I've noticed, with Sakurai's affinity for items, no trailer I've seen has mentioned many of them. All I've seen is the capsule. Anyone know of any E3 gameplay? I hope the item drop rate is more akin to Melee's.
Post by Dances in Undergarments on Jun 11, 2013 19:07:33 GMT -5
Oh man, what have I woken up to? Wii Fit trainer is great. Its such an odd choice, and, like Sakurai himself said, nobody would have predicted it.
I wonder if it means there will actually be a sizeable addition of newcomers, too? I would think that if they only had a smaller amount of new characters, they'd hold off showing a surprise character like this pretty much straight away.
Other than that, a lot of my speculation turned out right, and we can add a Wii Fit stage to the WiiU list. Awesome.
edit: Here's some gameplay video, at about 4 minutes in. I like the "I'll get you next time, Megaman" at the end - wonder if they're adding personalised messages like that for everyone, or if its just for this demo
Post by Dances in Undergarments on Jun 11, 2013 19:42:02 GMT -5
There's a rumour going round that some website was told about these 3 characters before the game was revealed, and that person was also told Little Mac, Pacman and Mii would be revealed at E3. I think its bullshit ("oh yeah guys, I already knew all that stuff, I just didn't tell you"), but it wouldn't surprise me if a) all those characters were actually in and b) we saw more characters during E3.
I will be honest... when I first heard that Wii Fit Trainer was in SSB4, I thought it was bullshit and stupid. Once I saw the trailer with her, I was taken aback by her mannequin-like appearance but the design grew on me... especially after seeing her in action. I thought it was hilarious how she fought by doing yoga poses and shooting rainbow yoga poses. Only Sakurai could have come up with something so absurd and make it look awesome.
I just realized that when you abbreviate her name to WFT, it is almost like WTF misspelled. It is rather fitting, given how WFT is the WTF character of SSB4. Hahahaha!! I wonder if there is someone more WTF-y than her in SSB4. Hmmm...
So will the character roster be different between both versions, too? Because if stages are different, there won't be playtime compatibility... and no need to have exactly the same set of characters.
Sakurai's pretty vague about that. In his Developer Direct he said 'the same amount of characters, but different stages'. I'm hoping the roster's the same atleast, splitting it up between two different versions is just cruel.
Oh, no! They're replacing the Soccer Ball from Soccer with one from Wii Fit.
I don't think that's the case; Wii Fit Trainer has a ball that comes with one of her moves. I imagine Mario's fiddling around with that ball (glad to see that the screenshots retain that "Smash Bros." zaniness I love).
Really stoked about the game, as par the course. Wii Fit Trainer is such a "WTF" character that I'm absolutely enthralled by her. She's just so out there and weird, and it's that brazen design choice that I think defines the series at times. A villager from Animal Crossing is a good choice as well; I do wonder if there will be female alts in the color list. And Mega Man! I am SO happy to see him in Smash Bros.; he looks like he'll be a perfect new addition. The stage guesses seem on track so far. Gerudo Valley seems to be the 3DS' Bridge of Eldin, and it's nice to see Ocarina get a proper stage in this one. Toon Link potentially being benched is also intriguing. Ah, I can't wait for the Dojo to start up!
Post by nocturnal YL on Jun 12, 2013 14:13:33 GMT -5
Ah, I was about to point that out. That should be the same ball the Wii Fit Trainer pulls out with her move.
Currently, the Trainer stands out because she's the only human character with white skin and otherwise doesn't look like a game character. She'll probably look less out of place when more characters show up.
I don't exactly care about what charcters get axed (though, again, I want to see Marth gone in favour of two FE characters from the same game, even though it sounds unlikely). Mega Man looks perfect, but I'd complain a little about the Villager in the game. Why didn't they take the New Leaf mayor? Not much of an actual complaint, since it won't actually make any gameplay difference. And if anything, I like how those trailers acknowledged the original universes of all those characters. Hopefully I won't have to see nonsense like Ike being slow or Falco driving Landmaster again.
Can't wait to see the Smash Bros. website to switch to a Brawl-like blog model. I guess I'm less patient after seeing the first batch of information now.
Post by parrothead on Jun 12, 2013 14:28:49 GMT -5
Out of all three newcomers, I can't decide which to choose. Villager, collecting is interesting (especially rare stuff), making him okay, but not always. Mega Man, overrated (especially how he appears and sounds). Wii Fit Trainer, interesting idea, but I am not into Wii Fit.
In my speculation, Nintendo will focus mostly on representing games that are either modern or both, classic and highly-praised.
Post by nocturnal YL on Jun 12, 2013 16:23:49 GMT -5
For those of you who are wondering, the gameplay videos you see of Sakurai talking about the game mechanics have him controlling both characters. How? Like this: /photo/1
Talking while moving two controllers with both hands. That's some serious multitasking.
We've seen demonstrations like Mega Man knocking Mario off and Mario recovering, and that's the work of one single person using two mirrored hands to move two non-mirrored controllers. I know he's a good gamer and a good thinker (not good enough to remember to backup his PS3 saves, but still), but this is simply mind-blowing.
nocturnal YL: My current plan is to play Atelier Firis DX now, which online guides suggest is long. Atelier Lydie & Suelle DX will likewise be long (longer than the original too, due to DLC, DX additions and I'll make the best items). I'll maybe play Ys Origin after.
Jun 14, 2021 10:28:43 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Not sure about what I'll play after. Another Atelier game will probably be out by then, either completing the Secret series or giving us Arland 5. Either way, I'll probably play those before going elsewhere. Dusk will have to wait for quite a bit…
Jun 14, 2021 10:31:02 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: Wondering if I should get Mario Golf at launch or wait a couple of months. I have so many other things to play that my gaming (and wallet) might need a little breathing room.
Jun 17, 2021 9:23:48 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: The problem with playing Hyrule Warriors and a modern Ys game at the same time is that even though the combat feels somewhat similar, the controls are completely different, and I get confused.
Jun 23, 2021 8:57:58 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: Yeah I'm here, but kinda vaguely. Sorry, I haven't had too much to say lately.
Jul 8, 2021 11:28:57 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: By the way, I don't know if you guys have been keeping up with OCR on YouTube, but apparently they're dropping an album for a game I grew up on, Jet Force Gemini. Really pumped; I'll post a review when they finish.
Jul 8, 2021 11:30:44 GMT -5
Shrikeswind: Or at least when my Top 3 from that game are on the Toobz. Just one more song to go.
Jul 8, 2021 11:31:13 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: I feel like I've been neglecting the forum more than usual lately. Been distracted by other things. I'll try to post something when I get the chance.
Jul 16, 2021 10:38:22 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: I don't have time to make posts. Atelier Firis DX takes forever to play. When I'm not playing, I'm in a read-only mode, reading guides and watching (unrelated) videos.
Jul 17, 2021 13:25:38 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: On that note, I'll probably make a review on the whole trilogy, so it will be a while until I talk about these games in details here. I can say Atelier Firis DX has far exceeded my expectation and has taken over Totori as my 3rd fav.
Jul 17, 2021 13:31:06 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Uh, I take that back. Atelier Firis has a lot of merits, but also a lot of drawbacks. It's extremely tedious for 100% completion, and there are all kinds of other flaws. Still good for the exploration aspect and certain plots like Liane's character events.
Aug 9, 2021 13:38:12 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: I don't know where I'd place it. A bit above Atelier Totori? A bit below it? I still think it's pretty good, at any rate. If only they could keep this game's engine but dial back its scale and make a traditional Atelier. Totally not foreshadowing anything.
Aug 9, 2021 13:45:07 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: I've finished Ys IX, so I'll be working on a detailed write-up and comparison with Ys VIII.
Aug 17, 2021 8:09:12 GMT -5
Spud: I try to keep up with here, but the proboard RSS feed suuuucks. And Thunderbird is barely passable as a feed aggregator. I feel like the internet was just better in 2007.
Sept 3, 2021 10:43:42 GMT -5
Nester the Lark: I may have a little time to catch my breath...
Sept 6, 2021 19:09:08 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: Game progress update: Atelier Lydie & Suelle DX — defeated Falgior, so it's about 1/3 done (about 1/4 if I count post-game item grinding); WarioWare: Get It Together! — played up to the staff credits (about 5%, I guess).
Sept 15, 2021 12:30:19 GMT -5
nocturnal YL: This pic is how I'd rate my games on Nintendo Switch so far (subject to change). Numbers are meant to show relative positions; like temperatures in °C and °F, absolute values don't mean much.
Sept 15, 2021 12:36:36 GMT -5