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Post by TV Eye on Aug 6, 2014 14:22:57 GMT -5
Actually, it's hilarious because you're so adamant about saying an egg-spitting pink monster is a tranny. Only on a Nintendo forum is this seen as a normal conversation.
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Post by Manspeed on Aug 6, 2014 18:28:15 GMT -5
What can I say? I like Mario a lot. I like it so much I prefer to have my facts exact. And Shrike....I have absolutely no idea what the hell you're going on about. Just stop and forget I said anything, ok?
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Post by kirbychu on Aug 6, 2014 22:23:34 GMT -5
Sheik's become a lot more feminine since Smash Bros. In the OOT art there were very defined pectoral muscles there. And then there's the OOT manga, where Zelda was magically transformed into Sheik, who was a guy with his own personality and no idea that he was Zelda. So I can see where the arguments over it come from.
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Post by Shrikeswind on Aug 7, 2014 0:16:04 GMT -5
What can I say? I like Mario a lot. I like it so much I prefer to have my facts exact. And Shrike....I have absolutely no idea what the hell you're going on about. Just stop and forget I said anything, ok? Alright, but I'll try and hone the point to its purest form before I do so. I'm just saying that the reason it's the same situation is because people can't see shades of gray.
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Post by Manspeed on Aug 7, 2014 1:16:28 GMT -5
And then there's the OOT manga, where Zelda was magically transformed into Sheik, who was a guy with his own personality and no idea that he was Zelda. I'm assuming you read the manga/an accurate translation of it, because I keep hearing this without being shown any direct proof.
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Post by kirbychu on Aug 7, 2014 5:59:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I've read it. I don't know where to find proof for you online, but the manga's pretty widely available now that it's been officially translated and released in English. You could always buy a copy and see for yourself.
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Post by Shrikeswind on Aug 7, 2014 11:00:55 GMT -5
This is only a fan translation, but OoT Volume 2, Chapter 7, page 13 is where you're looking. If anyone has a hard copy of the official translation, that's the page to scan.
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Post by Manspeed on Aug 7, 2014 11:56:30 GMT -5
Well, it may be a definite in the manga, but nothing is really said of how Zelda's disguise works in the actual game. And as already stated twice, Sheik looks a lot more feminine in Brawl and Smash 4.
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Post by kirbychu on Aug 7, 2014 16:11:55 GMT -5
Yeah, they never really explain how it goes down in the game. The manga just has the most reasonable explanation for how those breasts managed to turn into rock-hard pecs and back again.
From Brawl onwards it's a lot more feminine though. That redesign made it a lot more believable (or obvious) that there's boobs bound up in that outfit.
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Post by Manspeed on Aug 7, 2014 16:33:12 GMT -5
Well, I can buy that Zelda changed her appearance via magic, but I'm pretty sure the game makes it clear enough that Sheik isn't a completely new consciousness. There a reason they went with that in the manga? Was it for the Yaoi fangirls in the audience?
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Post by kirbychu on Aug 7, 2014 17:07:37 GMT -5
Yeah, the separate consciousness part obviously wasn't going on in the game. I buy the physical transformation part because the best explanation for it I've seen, but just because that's how it worked in the manga doesn't mean it's necessarily true to the games. The manga takes a lot of liberties with the established story. That's just the only way OOT/Melee Sheik's design makes sense to me. XD
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Post by Shrikeswind on Aug 9, 2014 0:30:48 GMT -5
Well, I can buy that Zelda changed her appearance via magic, but I'm pretty sure the game makes it clear enough that Sheik isn't a completely new consciousness. There a reason they went with that in the manga? Was it for the Yaoi fangirls in the audience? I hate to offer the boring answer, but it was probably to make the tweest at the end all the more tweesty.
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Post by Leon on Aug 12, 2014 20:46:33 GMT -5
In the artbook for this game, Koei Tecmo have revealed concept art for an unused character intended to be Link's daughter.
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Post by Manspeed on Aug 12, 2014 22:11:33 GMT -5
Can they like, make a game with her? Now?
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Post by Leon on Aug 12, 2014 22:17:01 GMT -5
Can they like, make a game with her? Now? When you fill in the Club Nintendo survey, mention her as something you want to see in the future.
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