Super Smash Bros. 4 Reference Guide (WIP)

[Manspeed]

Back when Wario had it, it looked more like cotton candy or ice cream to me than a Mario Bros. reference.

[TV Eye]

Manspeed, why does this bother you so much? Most of Smash's costumes haven't been consistent. One of the shitty aspects of the series when it comes to us Nintendo obsessors.

[Manspeed]

I just don't think the pink/azure costume is a Mario Bros. reference. Hell, after looking at all the arcade flyers and even the marquee art I'm doubting more and more that the picture on the Famicom and e-Reader package was intended to be actually be pink and azure.

And I really don't see how such a reference is more obvious than OVA Luigi.

[kirbychu]

Regardless of whether it was meant to be those colours... those are the colours it is. You can go extract them yourself if you think I tampered with them or something. It's not a result of the image being washed out, because fading red doesn't add blue to it, and all the images have red on them somewhere else to compare. The Mario Bros. NES art features Mario in exactly the same colours as this palette. It could be a coincidence, sure, but so could almost ANY of these palettes.

And I'd say it's more obvious than OVA Luigi for two reasons. First, because the NES Mario colours are actually the same, whereas the Luigi ones are a lot greener (on both colours) than they actually were in the OVA. And second, the NES Mario Bros. art is an internal asset that's been used for at least three releases. Sakurai would likely come across it in the office if he was going through their archives. The Mario OVA was produced outside of Nintendo, it's unlikely they'd have any art assets for it lying around. But knowing Sakurai, I wouldn't be surprised if he came across it online and decided to reference it. He'd just have to go further to find it.

But like I said.. both could be coincidences. What makes you think he wouldn't reference it?

[The Qu]

Updated with palettes up to Link.

[kirbychu]

Alright, so having played the game for a while now... I'm pretty sure OVA Luigi palette isn't intentional.



That's shirt's a clear lime green, not yellow.

Also just noticed the list has Mario's green palette listed as a confirmed reference to NES art Luigi, but it's not the same as it. It's similar, but it's actually just made up of the opposites of Mario's usual colours. Only the hat colour actually matches NES Luigi.

Still 100% convinced about cyan Mario, though. That shit is identical.

[Manspeed]

Now I wonder what the yellow Luigi next to the Not OVA Luigi is supposed to be.

[Johans Nidorino]

Should we use a different thread for interesting stage references? Besides Pac-Pix, I spotted this in the PictoChat 2 stage. Another reference is to the WarioWare blowing microgames; I'll post a pic later.

[The Qu]

Nah, when I get around to updating, I'll start the stage section. Admittedly, it's going to be a bit tough, since some stages have so many specific references. Also, nice call on the DK JR. stage!

[Johans Nidorino]

There are more than one cameos/references to WarioWare. Here are two "jumping Wario noses", first seen jumping in WarioWare: Touched!, I believe.




Donkey Kong, a pretty obvious one.

[The Qu]

I hate to dredge up this argument again, but apparently the pink shirt Mario Bros. is known enough in Japan to get non-licensed vinyl figures.

Plus a licensed Medicom figures.

Also, I'll get back to the guide sometime this week. Been busy.

[Manspeed]

The licensed one looks more rose-colored than pink to me.

[kirbychu]

Well... the word "rose" means "pink", so...

If those figures aren't confirmation, I don't know what is.

[Shadrio]

I won't lie: the Yellow Fur skin for DK makes me think of the Golden Oozaru from DragonBall GT

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A few possibilities that come to mind with the palette swaps (that are more viable than "Golden Oozaru") would have to be:

Blue Bowser: Based off Dark Bowser, from Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Black Bowser: Based off Morton Jr.

White Donkey Kong: Super Kong from DKCR
Pink Donkey Kong: Pink DK Jr. from DK Jr. Math

Yellow Link: Pipit from LoZ: Skyward Sword

Green Zelda: Zelda's Palette when beating the original LoZ without any rings
Blue Zelda: Zelda's Palette when beating the original LoZ with just the blue ring

Yellow Ike: Greil/Gawain
Red Ike: Zelgius? The external part of the cape doesn't match, though...
White/Blue Ike: Sigurd? Again, the cape doesn't fully match up, this time the interior
Green Ike: I'd say this is based off the Ally Unit's coloration from the series, either that, or Geoffrey
Black Ike: I've heard Black Knight, but I can't see it
Silver/Blue Ike: Chrom

Orange Kirby: Orange Spray Paint from Kirby & The Amazing Mirror
Black/Yellow Kirby: Maskless Metaknight

Pink Metaknight: Kirby
Dark Pink Metaknight: Galacta Knight
Grey Metaknight: Dark Metaknight from Kirby & the Amazing Mirror

Red Falco: StarFox Assault Falco

Red's Cap Pikachu: Red
Green Bandana Pikachu: Brendan's Bandana (Emerald)
Blue Goggles Pikachu: Pichu's Goggles from Melee
Gold's Cap Pikachu: Gold
Choice Band Pikachu: Choice Band
Red Cap w/Sunglasses Pikachu: Calem's default cap

Red Charizard: Charmeleon
Yellow Charizard: Charmander and Charmeleon's Shinies
Purple Charizard: its Shiny from Gen II (didn't know about this one myself)

Leaf's Hat Jigglypuff: Leaf's Hat from Pokemon FR/LG
Ribbon Jigglypuff: Fairy Tale Trainer's Ribbon from Pokemon X/Y
Nurse Cap Jigglypuff: Pokemon X/Y's Nurse Joy Caps

Pink Greninja: Lickitung
Black Greninja: Shiny
Dark Purple Greninja: Shadow Greninja?

Red & Black R.O.B.: Virtual Boy

White Ness: Fuel from Mother 3

Green Alph: Charlie (Pikmin 3)
Pink Alph: Brittney (Pikmin 3)

Lucina, in order: Standard, Nowi, Cherche, Cordelia, Tiki, Lissa, Tharja, Sumia

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That's what I know off the top of my head. I didn't include some because they might have been too farfetched, like the Dark Purple Lucario being another Shadow pokemon

[TV Eye]

Has anyone pointed out how Jigglypuff has the female X/Y trainers hat to match Pikachu's male hat?