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Post by nocturnal YL on May 18, 2006 9:28:57 GMT -5
nindb.classicgaming.gamespy.com/rev/ssbb.shtmlLook at this. Fry said it is suspected that some chareacters will not appear in SSB Brawl, right? You are wrong. Thanks to Luigi00001, he states that in this page - www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/index.html - there is a sentence "前作登場したキャラクターも、全部出るとは限りません。" - which approximatele means "characters from the past game (SSBM) will be here (in SSB Brawl), and will not be prevented from appeareance. That means all 25 (26? 27?) characters will be back. No further speculation needed. Statement straight from Sakurai, so no need to make further more assumption.
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Post by Flip on May 18, 2006 11:41:13 GMT -5
wait, what? Link me to this translation. Everything else I've read has said otherwise. And it's 26, counting Sheik  Considering it was mentioned somewhere that Brawl would break at least 40 characters, that's a LOT of characters already premade. Kind of a shame, considering all the potential fighters they could create with the extra space  EDIT: That's only 14 new characters, of which we already know 5. 9 more new fighters? Pretty lame, really. A lot of people expect to see a bunch more. And there's definitely characters from Melee they could stand to lose. The difference between Melee and the original was 14 new fighters, so it could be feasible they just do 14 and it's the same ratio, but please. That's just... weak. Definitely not what Sakurai promised when he said it would be an epic game. |
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Post by nocturnal YL on May 18, 2006 11:58:20 GMT -5
I can't link you to the translation, sorry. It's human-translated.
Actually I think some of those fighters could possibly be deleted..... (Dr Mario, for instance, you may say other clones should or should not stay, but I don't need 2 Marios, really) but it seems that Sakurai doesn't have such intention.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on May 19, 2006 2:34:22 GMT -5
I've read very varied translations of that, but the consensus, seems to be that he's saying that IF he wasn't developer, they'd probably just keep the 26 characters and chuck in an online mode and be done with it. This, however, is not what Sakurai wants.
...assuming this page, is of course, the page I'm referring to and have seen translations of.
And also, flip, at least 40 characters. You said it yourself. I really don't think they are only gonna come up with 9 more characters in the next [at least - more than likely more than] 8 months.
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Post by Flip on May 19, 2006 13:15:18 GMT -5
Yeah, but if the game ends up being all 26 Melee fighters PLUS a few more, I would be upset. It's what Sakurai said he was NOT making, really. www.deviantart.com/view/33481355/Look at that. If that is the final roster, I don't think I'd be a happy camper. I'd still buy the game, but resent the selection. |
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Post by amazingeee on May 19, 2006 13:35:02 GMT -5
Waluigi would be a dumb choice. Geno was a character in one Mario game, so I don't really care for his inclusion either. And they appear to have changed Zelda. And there's no reason for them to cut Pichu or Young Link. However Sonic, Ridley, Diddy Kong, Megaman and Krystal are all good choices on that fake. I'd be happy if those 5 found their way in.
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Post by Flip on May 19, 2006 18:35:37 GMT -5
^ what's really funny is that it originally used 2D images for some of the characters, so he had the correct TP style Zelda, for example. But then some people complained they weren't 3D, and henceforth the fake didn't look "real," and he went back and snagged those pics. I commend him on the 3D Joe, but that 3D Megaman is awful. It's not the real original Mega It's Rock from Legends XD |
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Post by Saim on May 20, 2006 1:55:31 GMT -5
Yeah, but if the game ends up being all 26 Melee fighters PLUS a few more, I would be upset. It's what Sakurai said he was NOT making, really. www.deviantart.com/view/33481355/Look at that. If that is the final roster, I don't think I'd be a happy camper. I'd still buy the game, but resent the selection. I'd be fine with that roster, but added WW Link, and changed Dr. Mario to a suit of Mario. A few obscure characters that I've never heard of would be good too. |
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Post by Smashchu on May 20, 2006 17:12:01 GMT -5
Yeah, but if the game ends up being all 26 Melee fighters PLUS a few more, I would be upset. It's what Sakurai said he was NOT making, really. www.deviantart.com/view/33481355/Look at that. If that is the final roster, I don't think I'd be a happy camper. I'd still buy the game, but resent the selection. All it needs is K. Dedede and it would be good. I did like his oranization. Also there are too many 3rd party characters. I doubt they'll have six. Maybe 4 at the most. |
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Post by Saim on May 20, 2006 23:59:35 GMT -5
Yeah, but if the game ends up being all 26 Melee fighters PLUS a few more, I would be upset. It's what Sakurai said he was NOT making, really. www.deviantart.com/view/33481355/Look at that. If that is the final roster, I don't think I'd be a happy camper. I'd still buy the game, but resent the selection. All it needs is K. Dedede and it would be good. I did like his oranization. Also there are too many 3rd party characters. I doubt they'll have six. Maybe 4 at the most. Yeah I changed my mind. I think we should have K. Dedede, and Megaman and Viewtful Joe (we don't need to SEGA characters do we?) shouldn't be in. Maybe Megaman, but definately not two SEGA characters, and Viewtful Joe's less popular than Sonic so... |
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Post by Hiker of Games on May 21, 2006 0:06:09 GMT -5
Viewtiful Joe is from Capcom, not SEGA.
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Post by Saim on May 21, 2006 3:12:45 GMT -5
Viewtiful Joe is from Capcom, not SEGA. Well, Megaman is also CAPCOM, and Megaman is more popular than Viewtiful Joe. |
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on May 21, 2006 4:28:00 GMT -5
I would heart Viewtiful Joe in SSBB, I think he would work really well. But as I've said, I can only see one representative for the 3rd parties that go in.
And god damn stupid Geno. Go away, puppet man.
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Post by Fryguy64 on May 22, 2006 9:44:15 GMT -5
Where's all this stuff about 40 characters being in it?
I human-translated the text and all it says is that the character roster in SSBB will not be restrained by the character roster in SSBM. Whether this means they will keep all of the old characters - including the stupid, rubbish ones - or whether they will cut some of them is pretty much up for debate.
Sakurai was going to delete and change characters from SSB to SSBM - but in the end he didn't (Ness because Mother 3 was cancelled, and Jigglypuff because there was a huge outcry in favour of her). But a lot more SSBM characters - mainly clones - were thrown in late in development thanks to limited game space. I seriously doubt all of these will be kept for the sake of it.
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Post by amazingeee on May 22, 2006 10:14:35 GMT -5
FryGuy,
Why not? They have all the source code of all of the current characters, and they are no doubt going to want as many characters as possible in the next game. Plus they have to know that cutting ANY character is alienating some group of fans. I could see them replacing Roy with a newer FE character, but I'd be very surprised and very disappointed if a bunch of others disappeared. You've talked in the past about Sheik or G&W leaving, and I think that would just be a supremely stupid decision on Sakurai's part.
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Considering it was mentioned somewhere that Brawl would break at least 40 characters, that's a LOT of characters already premade. Kind of a shame, considering all the potential fighters they could create with the extra space 
