Who you want in SSB:B

[kirbychu]

Same avatar as me?! This could get confusing...

I... don't really think there's any place for Mii in SSBB... for the same reason that there was no place for the AC player character. There's no basic Mii that could be used, every one is individual.

[Fran1395]

how about Scorpio?? he would be a kickass character in the game!! I can just feel the awesomeness swell n my heart!!! and then we can have Ash in the game. Here could b his B button moves:

B+down: Call Venusaur
B+left/right: call Pikachu 2 do an advanced thunderstorm move (KOs everybody, especially if they have >50% damage & very good in Stamina mode)
B+^: call Snorlax to jump ^ in the air & come down (or he can just roll over and squash someone & flatten them in2 a paper-thin figure!!) ;D

snd me a personal message w/ ur opinion!!!

[Old Man Rupee]

"KOs everybody"? That would be a tad unfair...

Plus its not really KOs in Smash Bros, its falling-off-the-screens, or FOTS for short ;D

Oh, I suppose there's being-hit-and-flying-upwards-off-the-screens and the flying-sideways variation of that. But that would make...umm...BHAFUOTS and BHAFSOTS, which wouldn't make any sense at all

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nintyboyuno said:

"KOs everybody"? That would be a tad unfair...

Plus its not really KOs in Smash Bros, its falling-off-the-screens, or FOTS for short ;D

Oh, I suppose there's being-hit-and-flying-upwards-off-the-screens and the flying-sideways variation of that. But that would make...umm...BHAFUOTS and BHAFSOTS, which wouldn't make any sense at all ;)

or you could just call it a KO to keep things generically delicious. :D

[kirbychu]

pikachu said:

and then we can have Ash in the game. Here could b his B button moves:

B+down: Call Venusaur
B+left/right: call Pikachu 2 do an advanced thunderstorm move (KOs everybody, especially if they have >50% damage & very good in Stamina mode)
B+^: call Snorlax to jump ^ in the air & come down (or he can just roll over and squash someone & flatten them in2 a paper-thin figure!!) ;D

snd me a personal message w/ ur opinion!!!

If it's Ash, what sense is there in having Venusaur? Charizard would be a better choice.

[Johans Nidorino]

It's valid to call them KOs, as in "knock offs", according to the instruction booklets.

I understand some people love human characters from Pokémon, but I don't see how their Pokémon-calling moves would last less than... 2 seconds or something. By summoning a Pokémon out of nowhere? Assuming we'll keep having Poké Balls as items, then why would somebody call Pokémon from nowhere if the Poké Ball concept is already present in the game? His/her Pokémon should be accompaining him/her in the foreground/background all the time, or he/she would be using only trainer items/cameras/cards/trozeis/stylers as SSB moves, or there wouldn't be playable human characters from Pokémon at all (like it should be if you want to use the true magic of Pokémon in SSB matches).

[TrustTheFungus]

nidorino said:

It's valid to call them KOs, as in "knock offs", according to the instruction booklets.

I understand some people love human characters from Pokémon, but I don't see how their Pokémon-calling moves would last less than... 2 seconds or something. By summoning a Pokémon out of nowhere? Assuming we'll keep having Poké Balls as items, then why would somebody call Pokémon from nowhere if the Poké Ball concept is already present in the game? His/her Pokémon should be accompaining him/her in the foreground/background all the time, or he/she would be using only trainer items/cameras/cards/trozeis/stylers as SSB moves, or there wouldn't be playable human characters from Pokémon at all (like it should be if you want to use the true magic of Pokémon in SSB matches).

I don't see why he couldn't just call them from a Pokeball real quick and return them after the attack. Maybe Ash/Red could even continue moving and attacking after releasing the Pokemon, and just return the Pokemon when they finish thier attack. Of course he couldn't release another Pokemon while there is one out, so it would be balanced. He'd probably have attacks based on Blastoise/Squitle, Charizard/Charmander, Venusaur/Bulbasaur, Snorlax/Munchlax, Espeon/Eevee and possibly Pikachu.

And there's plenty of items in Pokemon to make some good mves from. Pokeballs could be similar to Yoshi's Egg Lay. The Acro Bike could be used as a third jump. The PokeFlute could world like Jigglypuff's sing(Except they would dance instead of sleep). And he could have an Item Finder that would work like Peach's Turnips(Finding mostly PokeDolls). Then his "New Really Strong Attack"(Do those have an official name?) would involve summoning Pokemon.

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Why do all that when we could skip the middleman and have playable Pokémon? Makes more sense that way, doesn't it?

[Johans Nidorino]

trustthefungus said:

nidorino said:

It's valid to call them KOs, as in "knock offs", according to the instruction booklets.

I understand some people love human characters from Pokémon, but I don't see how their Pokémon-calling moves would last less than... 2 seconds or something. By summoning a Pokémon out of nowhere? Assuming we'll keep having Poké Balls as items, then why would somebody call Pokémon from nowhere if the Poké Ball concept is already present in the game? His/her Pokémon should be accompaining him/her in the foreground/background all the time, or he/she would be using only trainer items/cameras/cards/trozeis/stylers as SSB moves, or there wouldn't be playable human characters from Pokémon at all (like it should be if you want to use the true magic of Pokémon in SSB matches).

I don't see why he couldn't just call them from a Pokeball real quick and return them after the attack. Maybe Ash/Red could even continue moving and attacking after releasing the Pokemon, and just return the Pokemon when they finish thier attack. Of course he couldn't release another Pokemon while there is one out, so it would be balanced. He'd probably have attacks based on Blastoise/Squitle, Charizard/Charmander, Venusaur/Bulbasaur, Snorlax/Munchlax, Espeon/Eevee and possibly Pikachu.

And there's plenty of items in Pokemon to make some good mves from. Pokeballs could be similar to Yoshi's Egg Lay. The Acro Bike could be used as a third jump. The PokeFlute could world like Jigglypuff's sing(Except they would dance instead of sleep). And he could have an Item Finder that would work like Peach's Turnips(Finding mostly PokeDolls). Then his "New Really Strong Attack"(Do those have an official name?) would involve summoning Pokemon.

That Poké Ball move reminds me of Link's Boomerang. I could see that working as a tribute to Ash/Red as the named, non-generic character he is (I guess that's why you and others want him in?).

But, don't you agree that the way Nintendo showed those 4 Pocketto Monstah in SSBM, one feels free to call them Mewtwo, Pikachu, Pichu, and Jigglypuff instead of the Mewtwo, the Pikachu, the Pichu, and the Jigglypuff respectively? Pokémon sub-roster casting has probably been around that ease of identification, I think.

Pokémon themselves (or at least, Pokémon Type-related stuff like Energy Cards, Poké Assists, etc.) as a trainer's B moves would be funnier than trainer items. Stuff similar to bikes, Itemfinder, or rocks could be seen in any non-Pokémon RPG, making SSB too unrelated to the game series they want to celebrate :\. I'd have shared that taste of yours for the idea of human Pokémon characters as playable (and prepare my mind to see Red, Mark, Michael, Lucy Fleetfoot, and Lunick filling SSBB slots) because, if the SSB creators wanted, they could have kept Pokémon as mere Poké Ball Pokémon instead of keeping some of them as playable. But since they showed Pikachu as playable in the first trailer last May, I realized there's nothing wrong with skipping them if they don't introduce "random Pokémon".

I like the idea of Poké Dolls as items. TMs or HMs would be interesting as well.

[Smashchu]

I would kind of like to see another Warioware character, or a course for that matter. I may havce aalreaduy seggested this, but I'd like to see a changing course or obne where something happens every 5 seconds. Something along those lines.

[Saim]

kirbychu said:

Same avatar as me?! This could get confusing...

I... don't really think there's any place for Mii in SSBB... for the same reason that there was no place for the AC player character. There's no basic Mii that could be used, every one is individual.

Yes there is. There is the Mii that is on the playing controller. It would be different for whichever Mii you have on your controller.

[TrustTheFungus]

sgtmajorkururu said:

Why do all that when we could skip the middleman and have playable Pokémon? Makes more sense that way, doesn't it?

Because Red isn't the middleman. He's the one we(me?) want in SSB. Besides, a lot of people like the original starter Pokemon and this would be a nice way of getting all of them in, rather than taking up three character slots.

Stuff similar to bikes, Itemfinder, or rocks could be seen in any non-Pokémon RPG, making SSB too unrelated to the game series they want to celebrate :\.

Item Finders, Pokeballs, PokeDolls and PokeFlute are pretty unique to Pokemon. The bike I just added cause I can't think of anything else that could be used as a third jump, but one generic attack isn't that bad. But I still prefer the idea of him using Pokemon.

[Dances in Undergarments]

Original creature (Pokemon) vs. generic human with a couple of tools.

Lets go with the Pokemon.

[Sqrt2]

trustthefungus said:

Because Red isn't the middleman. He's the one we(me?) want in SSB. Besides, a lot of people like the original starter Pokemon and this would be a nice way of getting all of them in, rather than taking up three character slots.

The original starter pokemon have already featured in SSB and Melee (albeit in their fully-evolved forms), so I see no point in having them within one of the characters movesets.

[TrustTheFungus]

dancesinunderwear said:

Original creature (Pokemon) vs. generic human with a couple of tools.

Lets go with the Pokemon.

I can do that, too.

Generic creature of which millions exist vs. named character with the ability to summon powerful creatures and who could be considered the star of the series.

No one is saying they should remove all the Pokemon and add only human characters. We're just wanting one human character. One that was the star of the first games, and has had characters based on him as the star of the anime and manga.

The original starter pokemon have already featured in SSB and Melee (albeit in their fully-evolved forms), so I see no point in having them within one of the characters movesets.

I meant as playable. Although this wouldn't exactly be playable, it would be close.