Moveset Factory

[Johans Nidorino]

I guess the Wario treatment would be the way to do it, whether they have new Pokémon or not. Pokémon Rival as a title would deserve a character slot of its own, but the ones that are protagonists should be named nothing else than "Pokémon Trainer".

[smashaddict]

another idea

MASK LINK

This character will play out similarly to Pokemon Trainer in some ways. The character is the young link from Majora's mask. (as you may have guessed) but you won't play as the actual Link. VB will be like PT's pokemon change, as in he will switch between the three masks from majora's mask. As follows.

DEKU LINK
B--Magic Bubble----Press b and deku will start blowing a green bubble. Press B again and the bubble will be sent flying in an erratic pattern similar to Mewtwo's Shadow Ball. The longer you allow the bubble to grow, the further it will travel and the stronger it will be. If you allow it to grow too long, it will pop in Deku's face and he will be stunned for a moment.
>B--Deku Nut----Basically just like the item. Connect with it and dey will be stunned
^B--Deku Flower---Deku quickly dives into a flower and is shot up into the air, knocking back those he hits. He then sprouts two pink flowers from his hands and glides slowly in any direction for a limited time.

ZORA LINK

B--Zora Shield---Zora produces an electric field around him briefly (like Zelda's Nayru's love). Anyone close enough receives electrical damage and is knocked back. It will also nullify projectile attacks.
>B--Fin Boomerang---Zora sends his two fins flying. Similar to Toon Link's boomerang, you can sorta control the direction.
^B--Zora Dive---Zora does a quick somersault in the air and shoots in a high arc into the air with water spashing around him. When he hits the ground, water splashes around him and knocks back those it connects with. You can cancel out in the middle of the dive by pressing B.

GORON LINK

>B--Goron Roll---Basically a souped up version of Jigglypuff's rollout with a longer charge. He grinds on the ground like a wheel and when B is released he cruises across the stage covered in spikes. Easy to fly offstage, though
B--Powder Keg---A big bomb with a long fuse. Goron will chuck this baby forward and it'll roll for a short distance than...well, do whatever gravity tells it to do. Only fire attacks will set this sucker off early, otherwise the fuse will burn out and...boom sauce.
^B--Ground Pound---Goron will curl up, bound up into the air, and come down at high velocity. Not that good for recovery, but whatever.

Final Smash----Fierce Deity
The masks combine and Link transformes into fierce deity. The form lasts about as long as super sonic, and link becomes invulnerable to attack. Sword attacks are very strong, and energy flies from his sword every time he swings it.

Notes. Deku link will have three small midair jumps instead of just one
Zora link is much better at swimming than other characters.

Entrance- Link swirls onto stage via song of soaring, and dons a mask and transfroms.

[Flip]

I'm with everybody else in saying that Mega Man is the #1 pick for a new third party, Capcom rep, etc. etc. But DAMN, wouldn't Arthur be awesome as hell? I *love* my moveset for him. And no, I don't have a massive ego at all

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ARTHUR

Ghosts 'N Goblins, Arcade, 1985

The brave knight returns! Arthur joins the fray as a unique addition to the cast who relies heavily on his own armor to survive. Having taken on so many demons in the realm of the Makai certainly has prepared him for the world of Smash, right?

Standard Moves

All of Arthur's A attacks utilize his lance to attack, though he does not actually carry the lance on him during a normal stance (it appears during attacks). His grabs are standard grabs.

Special Moves

B: Lance -- Arthur tosses his lance dead ahead. The lance deals more damage than knockback, and disappears after roughly the distance of Wolf's laser. Arthur can toss two lances in a row before he can toss another. If Arthur double jumps and tosses the lance going into his second jump (during that initial "leap") he does a small flip and tosses the lance a bit stronger and faster than usual (it flashes). Even though he fights with a lance for his A attacks, his lance is regenerative and he has an unlimited supply for throwing.

Forward B: Lance/Weapon -- Arthur repeats his B attack for his Forward B. How lame! However, the catch here is that if Arthur uses his Down B successfully this attack changes into one of many different possibilities: a new throwing weapon! There are the speedy Daggers (3 on screen), angled Crossbow (1 forwards, 1 upwards), slicing Sickles (1 swooping up or down, deals combo damage), huge Axe (2 at a time), burning Fireballs (2 at a time, fly in an arch, deal damage like PK Fire [Ness]), cutting Discus (flies like the boomerang), and, of course, the Goddess Bracelet (1 at a time, loses damage with distance, fires straight forwards with slight charge). By using Down B successfully, Arthur can change his Forward B. If you are KO'd, Arthur retains all of these weapons minus the Bracelet (which resets to the Lance).

Up B: Red Arremer -- One of those famous red devils, the Red Arremers, swoops down from behind Arthur and snatches him before finishing its parabolic arch back into the sky. From the ground this attack works as described, but in the air the Red Arremer swoops a bit wider to give Arthur more recovery. Like Snake's Cypher, Arthur can drop from the Arremer at any time and immediately begin attacking with anything but his Up B. The Arremer may be attacked while carrying Arthur or during its swoop, even by Arthur himself, causing it to fly away/disappear. Arthur does not lose his third jump this way, but it does delay him from using it. Red Arremer deals damage on the swoop from below.

Down B: Treasure Chest -- Arthur causes a chest to appear on the ground before him (he can move away before it actually lands). It has a "stone" affect as it comes down, smashing away opponents. The chest falls about the height of Arthur's body while on the ground, though in the air it continues falling until it hits the ground. The treasure chest has "HP" and so remains on the stage, like the Wario Bike, until it's destroyed or fades away (or is eaten ). When the chest IS destroyed, it bursts open and reveals one of the various weapons described in Arthur's Forward B: Lance, Dagger, Axe, Sickle, Crossbow, Discus, Torch, Goddess Bracelet (super-rare). There is a chance, when it's broken, that instead of an item a magician appears. The magician casts a magic spell that flies in one random direction and turns whoever it touches into a random form for a short time (listed below). The chance of this occurring is severely increased if the chest is broken by anybody but Arthur. Arthur MUST grab the item that appears to change his weapon.

...Magician Forms...
Frog -- character becomes a small frog that can only move and jump. super light, tiny. color matches character. (ex. Kirby and Peach become pink frogs, Link and Luigi become green frogs, etc.)
Baby -- character is transformed into a child version of themselves. humorous in a lot of cases. character is much slower, can only jump once, and cannot attack. (ex. Baby Mario, Baby Peach, small Child Link, Kid Kirby [!], etc.)
Animal -- character is transformed into some animal other than a frog, typically a pun on the character/real world equivalent. this transformation lasts only a brief moment in time and character is still in place (or mid-air) before transforming immediately back to normal. (ex. Dedede becomes a real penguin, Fox to real fox, Pikachu to hamster, Mario to dog, Arthur to sea lion , etc.)
Maiden -- character is transformed into a female variant or, for female characters, a prettier/funnier version of themselves. like the animal this lasts very briefly and character is stuck in place while transformed. (ex. refer to jigglysama.deviantart.com/art/Super-Smash-Sisters-3-Final-78546584 ;p

Final Smash: Power-Up -- Arthur relies heavily on his armor for protection, so it makes sense that his Final Smash would involve his armor. When he grabs the Smash Ball and unleashes this attack, Arthur throws a fist into the air and is struck by lightning. The burst of lightning is the only offensive part of this Final Smash, though it does pack a punch. Arthur's armor is upgraded one level by using this Final Smash, and remains so until that armor is lost through battle. Wait... what does that mean? Hmm... At the final armor level--if Arthur has used his Final Smash more than once and survived--the corresponding magic spell for whatever secondary Weapon Arthur is holding will be instantly cast upon the field of battle. Most of the spells are similar, so in effect the changes are only aesthetic.

Misc. Notes

-So Arthur has a gimmick! Huzzah! He begins each battle with the regular Silver Armor he's famous for. However, this armor takes damage Soul Calibur style. The more damage Arthur takes the more likely it is his armor is going to break off, like an inverse Lucario. When the armor DOES come off, Arthur is left to fight in his undies. This increases his speed and agility but severely decreases his weight and power. Whenever Arthur is KO'd he automatically returns in his Silver Armor, just like his games.
-Using the Final Smash while in the undies puts the Silver Armor back on for Arthur, but using the FS while in the Silver Armor upgrades Arthur to the Bronze Armor. He is a bit heavier and slower, but his power has increased considerably. When this armor is lost Arthur goes straight to the undies.
-Using the FS while in the Bronze Armor then upgrades Arthur to the Gold Armor. He is at his heaviest, slowest, and strongest in this form. He also carries a large shield that protects him from most frontal projectile attacks, like Link's Hylian Shield. When Arthur loses the Gold Armor, he returns to his undies once more.
-To start a battle as Arthur in his undies the player can hold A while the battle starts. They can also taunt repeatedly to cause the armor to fall off as well. If you want Arthur to fight exclusively in his undies, rather than return to his armor each time he gets KO'd, just hold A while he's coming down on the revival platform.
-Arthur is all about challenge. Like his games, he is a difficult character to use because of his armor, lack of really powerful knockback attacks, and awkward control. To compensate, however, the player is rewarded highly for surviving. With each Final Smash, Arthur becomes more and more powerful. And, if you are a smart player, you can learn a pattern to getting the Goddess Bracelet every time. Arthur is definitely "Olimar calbire" in the sense that he rewards patience and practice.

Taunts: Pumps one of his fists into the air twice in a row; crouches on one knee and scratches his beard, "Hmm"; throws his lance above his head and stamps it on the ground, twice, cheering each time like a soldier.

Entrance: Arthur appears with a flash of light, standing in his armor and his fist in the air.

Kirby Hat: Kirby wears a knight's helmet.

Costumes:
*the upgraded armors do not change colors, so there WILL be multiple "Bronze Armor" Arthurs walking around
1. Regular, red heart undies
2. Red armor, red undies
3. Green armor, green shamrock undies
4. Blue armor, blue and yellow striped undies
5. Black armor, red diamond black undies
6. White armor, yellow undies

Win Poses:
1. Wearing his Gold Armor, Arthur stamps his lance on the ground and stands tall with a big "Huzzah!" as he cheers and throws his arms into the air.
2. Arthur pounds a fist on his chest and nods at the camera.
3. Arthur pounds a fist on his chest but the armor shatters. He stands there, in his undies, and looks around, then stares at the camera and laughs.

Victory Music: Level Clear from Ghosts N Goblins

Franchise Logo: The Red Arremer "shape"

Stage: MAKAI -- I'll get to this later.

[Arcadenik]

I know I'm not a big fan of Ghosts n' Goblins or whatever its named... but I'm surprised it didn't even make the playable roster in Marvel vs. Capcom 2 yet some obscure monkey man Sonson's granddaughter got in and she was created only for that game.

Great moveset for Arthur... that pretty much is what I would have expected from him. Brownie points for having that red devil as his up special move. That was good!

Edit: I know some fans would love to have Dr. Mario return... but they have to admit it. Dr. Mario was not so different from Mario when it came to their movesets. Sure, the stats were different but that's it. If Dr. Mario came back, I'd like to see him with a revamped moveset... or more specifically, revamped special moves.

B: Megavitamin - same as before

Side B: Virus - he throws a random virus like Olimar and King Dedede's side special moves. The virus leaps and latches onto a character and inflict damage like in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga. Red viruses burn. Blue viruses freeze. Yellow viruses shock.

Up B: Super Jump Punch - same as before

Down B: Super Sheet - used to be his side special move, he spins around with his sheet like Cape Mario would do in the SNES game, unlike Mario's side special move.

Final Smash: Virus Buster - a giant gar appears with all those viruses inside... a magnifying glass shows the three viruses holding up pictures of the opponents... Dr. Mario throws random megavitamins into the jar... you guide the megavitamins around the jar to clear out the viruses... when you clear out a virus, that virus holding a picture of the opponent gets hurt and that also hurts the opponent. This move lasts about 10 seconds.

Example: Dr. Mario is fighting with Link, Pikachu, and Kirby. Red virus holds Link's picture. Blue virus holds Pikachu's picture. Yellow virus holds Kirby's picture. When Dr. Mario clears one red virus, Link gets 10% damage. When Dr. Mario clears two blue viruses at same time, Pikachu gets 20% damage. When Dr. Mario clears all the yellow viruses from the jar, Kirby is KO'd as if he was hit by the Dragoon.

For those who want Dr. Tornado, that's his new aerial down + A move. I liked Mario's new aerial down + A move a lot so....

Second Edit: There was little to no representation for the Wario Land series in Brawl. I'd like SSB4 to introduce a newcomer, Overalls Wario, as a semi-clone of Wario with many differences you would swear he's an original newcomer.

While the majority of Overalls Wario's A moves are copied from Wario's A moves, certain moves are altered for Overalls Wario.

Side Smash + A would be his trademark shoulder bash, like Wario's, except his is more like Wario-Man's.

Aerial Down + A would be his ground pound move which he drops to the ground quickly like Toon Link's instead of Wario's drilling move.

Overalls Wario can also carry his opponent around like DK's forward throw move, unlike Wario's. Its based on that Wario could pick up and throw enemies in Wario Land games.

Overalls Wario can do multiple jumps like Kirby and Jigglypuff by turning into Puffy Wario. His head swells up and turns all puffy as he jumps in the air.

Now for the fun part, his special moves are similar yet different. Overalls Wario's B move is the same Chomp move as Wario's... but if he chomps on items or projectiles he turns into Fat Wario... Fat Wario is very heavy he cannot jump nor run but he cannot be carried nor knocked around.

Side B would have Overalls Wario wrap himself with yarn and transform into Ball o' String Wario. Charge the move by holding the B button and roll around like Jigglypuff's Rollout by letting go of the button. You can control the direction like Jigglypuff's Rollout.

Up B turns Overalls Wario into Bouncy Wario. Hold down the button to charge. The height of the jump depends on the length the button was pressed down.

Down B makes Overalls Wario electric he's called... Electric Wario! Kinda obvious, I know, but it works like Wario Waft, only you build up static electric instead of gas and you don't skyrocket when you use the move like Wario Waft.

Overalls Wario's Final Smash has bats surrounding him and he comes out as Vampire Wario! It works like Wario-Man but there are differences... B would make Vampire Wario drain opponent's HP and heal his own HP... up B would make Vampire Wario turn into a bat and gain free flight like Pit's up B move. Side B and down B do nothing while Vampire Wario is around. Oh, and he cannot do multiple jumps as Vampire Wario. There's no such thing as Puffy Vampire Wario.

Now for some creativity with his transformations... Crazy Wario appears when Overalls Wario breaks his own shield. Flaming Wario appears when he is hit by fire (Bowser's fire breath, Mario's fireball, etc.) and he runs around for a few seconds but you can still control the direction he runs. Frozen Wario appears when he's hit by ice (Ice Climbers' ice-based moves, etc.) and is frozen like Frozen Wario instead of the standard "frozen by Freezie" pose everyone else has. Flat Wario appears when he's hit from above by fast-dropping moves such as Bowser's, Yoshi's, and Kirby's down B moves. Electric Wario also appears when he's hit with electric-based moves like Pikachu's Thunder and Ness's PK Thunder.

[Smashchu]

A new character idea. I don't have time to put a true moveset, but I'll do it in several post. It will all make sence.

Helpers (Kirby Super Star)

That's right. You can play as 4 helpers: Knuckle Joe, Bonkers, Poppy Brother Jr. and Sir Kibble. They all fight differently, and they work as a team. So how do they work.

Well, you chose one to start out as (if you don't, it choses for you). The catch is you can't change out. Well, until you die that is. Then you must change into one of the other three helpers. So, essentially, you may only play as two of the four helpers, but a true master would get good with all four. Do you think one could adapt to all kinds of situations that way.

Oh, there is one other way of changing, but I'll explain that later.

(Also, I'm not sure if I should go with Sir Kibble. Any ideas, or should he stay?)

[Arcadenik]

How does that work? It doesn't sound like anything like Zelda/Sheik, Pokemon Trainer, and Samus/Zamus.

[Smashchu]

I'll start with one of the movesets

Knuckle Joe

A:Vulcan Jab-A rapid punch attack

A>:Strong Kick-A quick kick, similar to Mario's forward strong
AV:Low Punch-A low punch that knocks foes away
A^ Triple High Punch-Rasies a punch to the sky, juggling foes upward

Smash
A>Spin Kick-A powerful kick. He even moves forward when using it
A^Smash upper cut A powerful uppercut move. It does leave you open...
AVSweep kick-Knuckle Joe sweeps the floor with a kick. It's good for clearing foes

Air
A Spinning top-Knuckle Joe spins in the air. It traps foes and knocks them around. (From Squeak Squad)
A> Double Kick A kick that sends out a shock wave. It isn't powerful, but has range
A< Back Kick-A strong back kick. Much like Samus's (and other characters) it's hard to connect with)
A High air kick: Knuckle joe kicks with one foot upward. It looks almost as he's break dancing. It's not extra strong, but it's good for juggling
AV Down Kick A downward kick. Knuckle Joe bounces off of foes when it connects.

Specials
B Power wave: Knuckle Joe focuses his energy into a projectile. It can be changed and stored (from Kirby Squeak Squad)
B ^ Rising Break-A powerful uppercut. It's at it's strongest if you connect at the start of the attack. Of course, it can be used for recoveries
BV Pressure point power Knuckle Joe hits pressure point in his body to increase his strength for a little while. However, it does damage to him. Is it worth is
B> Smash Punch A quick fiery Smash Punch. Watch out though, it leaves you very open.

Throws
> :Arm throw-A simple high throw
^ Back Breaker-A up and land breaks a foes back. He then throws the foe upward
A: Judo throw-A back throw. It send the opponent and a low trajectory
AV Fury Stomp Kirby/Meta-Knights down throw

Running
Leg sweep-A sweeping attack. He looks like he's sliding

Notes
Knuckle Joe is the leader of the Helpers, and he's pretty balanced too. He has some strong KO moves and some quick hitters. He is the most diverse of all 4 of the helpers and can adapt well. Unlike Mario, he's light and some some stronger attacks with more vulnerability. One might say he's only for a real fighter.

[Boo Destroyer]

So I've tried figuring out how Ribbon would work if she was playable in Smash Bros.

First off, she'll be re-designed completely, looking a bit older, much like this:
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That's how I pulled it off anyway. >.>

Anyway, here we go:

*Excels in jumping and recovery due to her wings. She doesn't flap-hop with them, but she can float around while holding the jump button down, ala Peach.
*Specializes in many magical attacks.

SPECIAL MOVES

Standard = Shard Bomb
She will cast a crystal shard into the air, which can be aimed with the Control Stick. When it's detonated, it will explode on opponents, dealing some sharp damage on them. (Works like Ness's PK Flash)

Side = Quad Shock
Did she learn this from Bio Spark? She'll just raise her hand a bit (as if about to slap the opponent), but actually swipes it across like a blade!! If it connects, more slashes will follow up.

Up = Fairy Wings
She can fly around in the air freely fir a limited time, much like Pit's Wings of Icarus.

Down = Reflect Barrier
Not only can Simirror do that! Ribbon will form a rainbow-colored circular barrier in front of her with her hands, which will reflect any projectiles.

FINAL SMASH

Miracle Matter
She will bring forth this deadly entity, which will attack with any of its seven powers. Only one can be done at a time whenever it appears, though.

TAUNTS

Up = Puts her hands together, looks completely innocent, and then blushes and giggles.
Side = Gracefully flips her hair.
Down = Shows off a crystal shard and winks adorably.

And now to cut to the standard attacks:

Stand-still combo = One-two slaps at first, and then a swift kick

Stronger Side = Casts a simple electrifying attack ahead of her.
Stronger Up = Points her hand up, which sparks a small spark (whoop) at the tip of her finger pointing up.
Stronger Down (whilst crouching) = Points onto the ground to bring on another spark as such.

Smash Side = Brings on a burning punch forward.
Smash Up = A flip-kick of sorts.
Smash Down = Sweep-kicks on both sides, but the impact of her foot creates the damaging sparks on each side.

Running Attack = Both hands forward, as if shoving, but burns opponents when it connects.

Quite hard to describe right, but you should be getting the imagery fine. And I'm still using her redesign over there.

(So that's part 1 of these. Back later)

[Flip]

I thought I might revive this topic somewhat with one of my ideas I've had recently. I know we've talked about this before, but the idea of cloning the Pokemon Trainer for the use of the other 9 starters is still a really fantastic idea. So my friend and I sat down and had a deep discussion (not really ) about who would get what, and this is what we came up with. Enjoy!

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POKEMON TRAINER

The way the Trainer works in this fictional game setting is as follows: the Trainer is now split amongst the various names and appearances they have had over the generations. Red appears as one character, Gold as another, Ruby, then Diamond. Each comes with the respective starters from their own generation, all in the same evolutionary "groups." Water is basic, Grass is 1st stage, and Fire is 2nd stage. The Pokemon themselves are clones of one another, with some being more of a clone than others, though they all have very unique differences and stark contrasts in fighting styles. The Trainers all can switch between their male and female counterparts by cycling through costumes; the first four are all male, and the latter four all female. The Pokemon do not change with the gender of the trainer--only with the colors. All four trainers are selectable as their own character.

Standard Moves

RED/GREEN: SQUIRTLE/IVYSAUR/CHARIZARD -- what you already know from Brawl
GOLD/CRYSTAL: TOTODILE/BAYLEEF/TYPHLOSION -- Totodile is similar to Squirtle but ditches the shell for biting and slashing attacks; Bayleef is very similar to Ivysaur but lacks any "vine" attacks, instead doing slams and headbutts; Typhlosion ditches the wings for more slashing and ramming attacks
RUBY/SAPPHIRE: MUDKIP/GROVYLE/BLAZIKEN -- Mudkip is exclusively body attacks; Grovyle is very unique using mostly slashes and kicks; Blaziken is very similar to Lucario, more than any of the others
DIAMOND/PEARL: PIPLUP/GROTLE/INFERNAPE -- Piplup is most similar to Mudkip but uses slaps and pecks; Grotle is most like Bayleef; Infernape is a combo between Typhlosion and Blaziken

Special Moves

GOLD/CRYSTAL

TOTODILE

B: Water Gun -- Totodile builds up water and charges, then unleashes with another press of B to send a directional stream of water blasting forwards. This pushes back foes, but unlike Squirtle's the attack also deals damage when first launched, dealing more knockback the closer the opponent is to Totodile's open mouth.

Forward B: Aqua Tail -- Totodile rushes forwards on a jet of water. This attack moves fast and knocks away opponents Totodile tackles along the way. However, if Totodile nails a wall he stops all momentum and is dazed for a bit; there is no way to turn this attack around as Totodile can only move forwards. in mid-air, this works like a horizontal "dash" and moves Totodile straight forwards.

Up B: Water Sport -- Totodile has full control over a stream of bubbling water. You can move horizontally or vertically, and any angle in between. This has far more control than Squirtle's Waterfall, but the width of the attack is narrower.

Down B: Pokemon Change

BAYLEEF

B: Bullet Seed -- Bayleef rears back, then slams forwards and fires a steady stream of high-power seeds directly ahead of itself. These will push back and deal light damage to foes, but after a short time Bayleef takes a break and stops firing seeds -- leaving her wide open.

Forward B: Magical Leaf -- Bayleef pulls back its head, then swings it forwards as the leaf atop its head spirals out a flashing, multicolored "magical leaf." The magical leaf can be controlled mid-air to the point that it can make a complete rotation back toward Bayleef by making a large loop, but it does not have the same maneuverability as Pit's Arrows -- more like Toon Link's Boomerang with a wider range of motion.

Up B: Vine Whip -- Bayleef crouches and shoots two hardened vines from the buds on its neck upward at an angle to whip opponents. In mid-air, this is a tether recovery that also has a short "hop" before the vines are launched.

Down B: Pokemon Change

TYPHLOSION

B: Flamethrower -- Typhlosion stamps its foot, the flaming mane shoots out, and a stream of fire is launched from its maw. This works just the same as Charizard's Flamethrower, with the one exception being the immense "burst" of energy from Typhlosion's mouth when the move is first launched (for a brief few frames, it has a lot of power/knockback). Foes can be caught in the neck flames similar to when Mewtwo/Lucario charge their B attacks.

Forward B: Eruption -- Typhlosion leans back, then lowers its head and rams it forwards as the flames on its mane shoot up violently. The "eruption" causes a burst of flames to erupt from Typhlosion's head and fiery "pebbles" to fling forwards, scalding opponents. This attack is weaker the further away the opponent is; it sweetspots directly at the point when and where the fire "bursts." The less damage Typhlosion has, the stronger this attack becomes.

Up B: Flame Wheel -- Typhlosion crouches, then leaps into the air spinning like one large, flaming spiral. The initial flip has knockback, but the rest of the attack holds in opponents for a slow combo similar to Samus' Melee Screw Attack.

Down B: Pokemon Change

FINAL SMASH: Triple Finish -- All three Pokemon come out for one massive attack. Bayleef leans back on its haunches, Typhlosion stands tall behind it, and Totodile scrambles atop Typhlosion's head. All three Pokemon aim their strongest attacks (Solarbeam, Fire Blast, and Hydro Pump) upward at a 45 degree angle and let the opponents have it!


RUBY/SAPPHIRE

MUDKIP

B: Mud Shot -- Mudkip builds energy and charges; when B is released/pressed again, a volley of dark mud is fired from Mudkip's mouth. This move is directional and pushes back opponents without dealing damage; the most knockback is on the initial burst, once again. However, this attack gives Mudkip some "kickback," and more kickback the higher the charge. Also, opponents may suffer being "mudded" if they are close to Mudkip or have high damage when the move is launched, an effect that slows movement.

Forward B: Mud Sport -- Mudkip rushes forwards on a slow moving wave of mud. This attack works similar to Withdraw minus the defense effects and the wall-rebounding. Also, opponents who are caught in the mud will be dragged along with Mudkip while being dealt light damage, possibly "mudded," and those who follow directly in Mudkip's trail have a higher chance of "tripping" on the mud slick that follows (trail is about three two Pikachus distance behind Mudkip).

Up B: Muddy Water -- Mudkip has some control over the raging swamp water wave it has created. It can move straight upward, but the angle can only fall to roughly 45 degrees and nothing less. Opponents struck by the muddy water can be "mudded."

Down B: Pokemon Change

GROVYLE

B: Bullet Seed -- Grovyle cranes its head forwards and fires a steady stream of rapid-fire seeds. This attack is directional and Grovyle can aim it either directly forward or up at a 45 degree angle. The stream of seeds fired here does not last as long as Ivysaur's or Bayleef's.

Forward B: Leaf Blade -- Grovyle pulls back its arm, then steps forward and slashes the blade on its forearm to deal damage. This attack has a wide range for a melee attack, but it sweetspots at the tip of the leaf blade. In mid-air, Grovyle steps forwards to use this attack, making it a nice pseudo-recovery move.

Up B: Agility -- More similar to Pikachu's Quick Attack than anything else, Grovyle crouches then leaps into the air as a green streak, leaving a trail of afterimages behind. You can "dash" twice with this attack in any direction, and any opponents that you move through are dealt light damage and knockback in a manner more similar to the Fox Illusion than Quick Attack.

Down B: Pokemon Change

BLAZIKEN

B: Ember -- Blaziken stands strong and the flame "cuffs" grow as it breathes a steady stream of fireballs forwards. These move the same distance as Flamethrower and are still directional, but come out in "bursts" of fire rather than one steady stream. Because of this, they deal knockback rather than "holding" the opponent.

Forward B: Blaze Kick -- One of the few original moves, Blaziken goes into a martial arts stance then unleashes a powerful blazing roundhouse kick. By holding B, Blaziken can store power. The more power, the stronger the kick. Blaziken will move forward as it unleashes its kick; with a full charge, it will get in two full rotations with its blazing heel and move about the distance of a Peach Bomber.

Up B: Sky Uppercut -- Blaziken poses, then leaps into the air with a spiralling and flaming uppercut attack. This attack will punch away opponents like Charizard's Fly, but it alway "sweetspots" at the tip of Blaziken's claw. Anybody who is hit by the very tip of the uppercut during liftoff is dealt the brunt of the damage.

Down B: Pokemon Change


FINAL SMASH: Triple Finish -- Because they were so weird and changed all the rules in their signature games, these starters have a completely unique version of Triple Finish to show off. Blaziken goes into a stance, Mudkip dives in front of it, and Grovyle leaps into the air above both their heads. All three unleash powerful "cover" attacks: Overheat, Leaf Storm, and Whirlpool. Anybody caught near the range of these attacks will get sucked in, dealt heavy damage, then blown away by the sheer energy!


DIAMOND/PEARL

PIPLUP

B: Bubblebeam -- Piplup builds up energy by holding B, then blows forth a stream of bubbles that blows back foes. If opponents are above or below the stream of bubbles they take light flinching damage; if they are directly ahead of the stream, they are blown back like Water Gun without taking any damage. The stream can be angled up or down and will curve at the tip if the direction is pressed; Piplup gets little to no kickback from this attack.

Forward B: Surf -- Piplup's Pokeball move translated, of course. Piplup swims forwards on a wave of water that pushes opponents along with it. This attack deals light damage as Piplup "pecks" opponents it catches in front. When Surf meets a wall Piplup will rebound, unlike other attacks, and in mid-air this is a "falling" horizontal recovery.

Up B: Dive -- Huh? Piplup goes DOWN for this Up B recovery move. Is there a mistake we made here? In mid-air, Piplup will swim down a wave of water at any angle between 0 and 180 degrees. On the ground, Piplup will dive into the ground and cause a surge of water to burst forth as it "slides" either to the right or left a short distance. The only way to make this a horizontal or vertical recovery is by "looping" Piplup around. Since the time it is diving lasts a while, it is possible to make Piplup swim downwards and then loop back up again, sometimes in a very short amount of time (causing it to have more positive vertical recovery than otherwise).

Down B: Pokemon Change

GROTLE

B: Seed Bomb -- Grotle rustles its bushes and fires large, seed "grenades" up into the air that burst in a wide radius to cause a lot of damage. Since the bombs are fired slowly, this attack has no "recharge" like the other seed attacks. The bombs can be slightly angled in their trajectory. Think of a weaker Zelda Uair, and you somewhat have the idea for this attack.

Forward B: Razor Leaf -- Grotle leans back then stamps down and fires two whirling bladed leaves that can be controlled in mid-air. This attack has a bit less control than Ivysaur's Razor Leaf as the two leaves split with one going downwards and other upward. These leaves also "drill" into opponents, hitting them 3 or 4 times before disappearing, making them better for approach than Ivysaur's.

Up B: Grass Knot -- Grotle launches a braided vine from the shrubbery on its shell whose angle and movement can be controlled to whip opponents (like Sheik's Chain Whip, but there is no ability to keep it out). There is no sweetspot, and the attack is by and large very weak. In mid-air, Grotle does a short hop and this can be used as a tether recovery.

Down B: Pokemon Change

INFERNAPE

B: Fire Spin -- a very different B attack, Infernape surges a spiraling flame around its body similar to Nayru's Love. This attack will blow back opponents but, more importantly, is a "stall" move in mid-air and "absorbs" projectiles, canceling nearly every variety of projectile in the game completely. The "Flamethrower" bit of the attack is the smaller fireballs that spiral around the ring of flame.

Forward B: Rock Smash -- Infernape's own take on the attack works similar to Charizard with some key differences. Infernape bursts the boulder with its fist; as the fist comes through the other end of the rock, the blow is enough to KO most mid-to-high damage opponents. In other words, the center of power is at the edge of the rock rather than its center. The debris from this attack is much larger than Charizard's and deals slightly more damage.

Up B: Fire Punch -- Similar to Sky Uppercut, Infernape leaps into the air with a flaming uppercut. Instead of spiraling, it concentrates all the force into its fist and flies up more similarly to the Mario Bros. At the initial leap Infernape deals the most knockback, but the flames that surround its body during the attack make it work like Falco's Firebird during the rest of the move.

Down B: Pokemon Change


FINAL SMASH: Triple Finish -- All three Diamond and Pearl starters have a unique spin on this Final Smash as well. Instead of an up-close OR directional energy attack, these three use physical attacks to obliterate the opponent. Piplup dances around Infernape, who hovers in mid-air and becomes demonic (Battle Rev style), while Grotle scratches the ground and lowers its head. Suddenly, all three dash forwards in a gargantuan burst of power using Flare Blitz, Wood Hammer, and Avalanche! Grotle dashes forwards in a shroud of wood and leaves, Piplup rides a glacier, and Infernape flies ahead in a fireball. Infernape, who is in front, will KO players by ramming them off screen; Grotle and Piplup will tackle players to KO them OR capture them (if they fall into the rush or come from below) and drag them off screen. Piplup's glacier can freeze players at very high damage and KO them off the top as well. All three move across the entire screen like Ganon and KO anybody in their path; the two who are not out return to their balls and the third, who is in play, falls from the sky.


Misc. Notes

-Rather than bore you with all the little notes and stuff, I'll just mention the following:
1. In all the trios, the weight and speed classes are the same: Water is lightest and slowest, followed by Grass, followed by Fire. The ONLY exceptions are that Grovyle is faster than Blaziken and that Grotle is heavier than Infernape.
2. Totodile, Typhlosion, Mudkip, Grovyle, Blaziken, and Grotle can all Crawl. Grovyle, Blaziken, and Infernape can all Wall Jump and Wall Cling.
3. When using items, Bayleef and Grotle resort to the same methods employed by Pikachu in Melee: they hold the item in their mouth and lay on their backs/haunches to fire it.

Taunts: ...fuck that

Entrance: Trainer skids in, ball is thrown out. Tada!

Kirby Hat: Heh... no.

Costumes: No

Win Poses: NEVER!

Victory Music: Same as other Pokemonz

Franchise Logo: Same as the other OTHER Pokemonz

Stage: . . .


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[Johans Nidorino]

I love those ideas for Typhlosion, and all the Triple Finishes are wonderful. As a bonus, you covered a few HM moves, which is another thing that one of the Kanto Pokémon was given in Brawl.

I'd give Aqua Tail to Totodile instead of the Aqua Jet, the latter being meant for very fast swimmers. I'd envision an Aqua Tail in Smash similar to that Blaze Kick of Blaziken.

Remember when you suggested that the Squirtle in Brawl should use BubbleBeam as its neutral Special Move? Well, I believe that is what Piplup would get if it became playable because bubbles are its answer to the Water Gun of other starters and would add variety to this set of characters.

[Manspeed]

aunts: ...fuck that

Entrance: Trainer skids in, ball is thrown out. Tada!

Kirby Hat: Heh... no.

Costumes: No

Win Poses: NEVER!

Victory Music: Same as other Pokemonz

Franchise Logo: Same as the other OTHER Pokemonz

Stage: . . .

Must you be such a douche about it?

[Flip]

Jan 1, 2009 18:12:26 GMT -5 Johans Nidorino said:

I love those ideas for Typhlosion, and all the Triple Finishes are wonderful. As a bonus, you covered a few HM moves, which is another thing that one of the Kanto Pokémon was given in Brawl.

I'd give Aqua Tail to Totodile instead of the Aqua Jet, the latter being meant for very fast swimmers. I'd envision an Aqua Tail in Smash similar to that Blaze Kick of Blaziken.

Remember when you suggested that the Squirtle in Brawl should use BubbleBeam as its neutral Special Move? Well, I believe that is what Piplup would get if it became playable because bubbles are its answer to the Water Gun of other starters and would add variety to this set of characters.

I was a bit miffed when I realized Aqua Jet was a move none of the starters got, and although Muddy Water makes SENSE, the Totodile line doesn't get it (which I was completely convinced they did). Aqua Tail can still work similarly to my Aqua Jet idea, though, because as funny as it would be to see 'dile swing its tail and kick some ass, does it really have that kind of power? Hmm... And Piplup was really a crapshoot for Brine or Bubblebeam. I mean, both would work really well. I went with Brine because it's more a signature move and comes from the DP gen, but Bubblebeam works just as well. You know what? Imagine it what you want

Must you be such a douche about it?

I already was making myself look like a huuuuuuuge fanboy. I had to kill it SOMEWHERE

[Koopaul]

Aren't we all fanboys to some extent here anyway? Feel no shame in your obsession, I always say... Unless it takes over your life, then you got a problem.

Anyway, New Year's reminded me how much I want Party Popper as a move for an Animal Crossing character.

[Manspeed]

I can understand where you're coming from Flip. Don't listen to Koopaul; he's just trying to justify his crackpot mentality.

[Koopaul]

Ha! Don't deny it, everyone has a little bit of fanboy in them.