Moveset Factory

[Kohta]

tveye said:

I know. I love classic Crash, but other companies have completely ruined him.

His golden days were with Naughty Dog. They never released a bad Crash game. Crash 1,2,3 and CTR were great but then ND disbanded and let n00bs take charge ;D

[Manspeed]

Ruined? I loved the original Crash trilogy too, but Crash of the Titans wasn't that bad.

[Flip]

You guys: EVEN MORE...? Man, he gets REALLY bored between classes...

Flip: HEY!

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ISAAC
Golden Sun, GBA, 2001

A teenage Earth adept, Issac takes into battle the Venus djinn, giving him powers over earth, fire, and plants. He fights with a sword but still being young relies more heavily on his alchemy to battle. After much waiting, he's finally entering the fray. Will he prove victorious?

Basic Moves

A: Punch
A, A: Punch, Jab with a burst of stone
Ftilt: Sword Swing
Utilt: Overhead sword swing
Dtilt: Swordstab
FSmash: Blast, stone debris bursts from his open palm
USmash: Spire, a rocky spire bursts from the ground and launches foes upwards
DSmash: Plunge, stabs his sword into the ground and it erupts in earth and flame
Dash A: Sliding kick

Nair: Slash
Fair: Elbow
Uair: Burst of wind magic, blows people
Dair: Underbody slash

Grab: Reaches out and a vine crawls along the ground towards the opponent. When grabbed, the vine ensnares them and Isaac holds on. In midair, the vine shoots from his palm and works as a tether about the length of Sheik's Whip
Z/A: Knee, vine tightens
Fthrow: Launches them forwards with energy from his palm
Uthrow: Vine untwists and launches them up, firing a few thorns their way
Bthrow: Isaac tears them out of the vine and launches them from the ground on a piece of earth
Dthrow: Isaac throws them down and stabs his sword into them

Special Moves

B: Boulder -- A stone floats in front of Isaac and hovers before flying forwards. Holding B charges the floating rock and causes it to amass in size, at its peak becoming a boulder roughly the size of Dedede (so it can get fairly large). It can protect Isaac from attack but he moves slowly while it hovers in front of him; he can also only jump once. Letting go of B, he flings it forwards with proper physics. It deals damage and falls into rubble, much like Rock Smash. In midair this attack cannot be charged but instead Isaac fires whatever rock he has before him or a tiny pebble as if it were uncharged.

Forward B: Move -- Like his Assist, Isaac thrusts forward a psychic image of his palm. This pushes back players and, if smashed, is faster and stronger than normal. Holding B will slightly charge the hand to grow larger, but it does not affect power or speed. Normally the attack is only slightly larger than his hand itself.

Up B: Levitate -- On the ground Isaac charges only briefly, then is lifted into the air on a large boulder from the earth itself. The boulder flies at a bit of angle, then Isaac leaps at the peak of the jump and the boulder falls to the earth. You can press B at any point for Isaac to leap off and if you press B while he's leaping he follows with a slight sword slash. The stone itself falls to the earth and crumbles. In midair, he does not get as much lift as he would on the ground but is flung further. The stone still falls all the way to earth, like Sonic's spring. Obviously, it can be avoided or destroyed.

Down B: Ragnarok -- Isaac charges his sword in a ready stance as it steadily grows in power. Letting go of B allows him to slash forwards in a horizontal slice. The more you charged the larger his sword becomes during the slash. At peak power the sword is deadly.

Final Smash: Grand Gaia -- Isaac's ultimate attack. The Venus djinn appears and swirls around Isaac, then vanishes as he poses and finishes charging his attack. A massive burst of energy and light swathes the screen and anybody in the immediate proximity to Isaac is encased in stone. Those who are on the outskirts of his pulse of power are thrown off the screen! Isaac finishes the attack with a pose.

Misc. Notes

Out of 5...
Speed: 3, Power: 3.75, Weight: 3.2, Jump: 2.25, Gravity: 4

-Isaac is maybe an anti-Toon Link? He's not as jumpy or fast, but he's a lot heavier and still packs a punch. Instead of long range he relies on melee attacks, with his specials good for clearing crowds.
-Isaac cannot wall jump or crawl but he CAN wall cling, being an earth adept after all. Just the same, Isaac does get "flinch free" frames like some heavyweights.
-I think the best option with Isaac would be to play like Ike. He's not as powerful or slow, but he operates in much the same way. Abuse the hell out of the Boulder attack if you need to guard; it's a lot better than a shield if you use it well.

Taunts: Takes out his sword and poses with both hands on the hilt; Venus flies around his head as he watches it buzz around; Isaac closes his eyes and hovers slightly in the air as stones rise around him.

Entrance: Shatters through a large boulder blocking his view, then stands in its place.

Kirby Hat: Kirby gets the hair, of course.

Costumes:
1. Regular
2. Brown -- "Garret"
3. Pink and Green -- "Ivan"
4. Icy Blue and White -- "Mia"
5. Purple and Red -- "Jenna"
6. Olive Green and Brown -- "Felix"

Win Poses:
1. Pets the Venus djinn while crouching and smiling.
2. Poses with his hands at his sides and standing very tall, beaming.
3. Floats a small rock before him, then turns to the screen sharply.

Victory Music: "Victory" from Golden Sun

Franchise Logo: Sunburst

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WALUIGI
Mario Tennis, N64, 2000

It's wizzleing Waluigi.

Basic Moves

*too lazy*

Special Moves

B: Waluigi Bomb -- Waluigi pulls out a big ol' bomb and carries it in his hand like an item. The bombs are purplish black with a 'stache and can be thrown like Snake's grenades, though with a bit more control. Rather than only three distances with their own arcs, these bombs can be thrown in any arc you decide with the joystick and the power determined by how long you hold B as you toss. The bombs explode either on contact if thrown fast and hard or settle and roll before blowing up when thrown softly. Holding down and pressing B places a bomb right where you are standing.

Forward B: Waluigi Drop Rocket -- His own version of the Green Missile, Waluigi can crouch and charge the attack. Rather than flying headfirst, however, he kicks his feet out and poses like a mantis as he flies forwards. He has a strange purple flame about him as he does the attack and it carries people with it rather than stopping as it knocks them back. At the end of the kick there's a spike, but only if you hit the guy at the end of the kick do they get spiked. In midair, you can angle this attack downwards if you so choose.

Up B: Waluigi Coil -- Putting those long legs to work, Waluigi twists himself up and bends downwards. As you charge he can build power, and letting go he flies into the air like a spring. His spinning body drills opponents only slightly while the real power lies in the initial launch. You can angle this as well and it works just like Diddy's Jetpack in the air or the ground as far as charging and angling goes.

Down B: Waluigi Twister -- Another spinning attack. Waluigi flails out his limbs and spins like the Luigi Cyclone, but with one major difference: he flies towards the earth as he does it. In midair this is a weird cross between the Luigi Cyclone and the Yoshi Bomb, and on the ground Waluigi turns that downwards momentum into a spinning top-like maneuverability. The attack is crazy powerful if you get a guy for all of its duration, which is something much easier to do from above while both in midair.

Final Smash: Waluigi Emptiness -- What a weird name... Waluigi swings his arms around himself and becomes cloaked in a black cape that covers his entire body--only his eyes glow menacingly purple. You can hover just above the ground and are completely invincible. Pressing B unleashes a powerful thorn whip that slices opponents and, at the tip, deals immense knockback. Pressing A will make Waluigi spin a vortex that sends opponents flying away in purple dark flames. As far as jumping goes, Waluigi in midair by holding down the jump button and can freely move around the stage this way. At the end of the attack he spins into nothingness and reappears as himself. ...what the hell was that all about?

Misc. Notes

Out of 5...
Speed: 2.6, Power: 3.75, Weight: 4, Jump: 3.75, Gravity: 3.5

-Strange indeed. He's not very fast because of those gangly legs but he does gain some nice jumping ability. He is similar to Wario in gravity but lacks the air movement he does. Rather, he's about as heavy as Captain Falcon and just as tall. His power is above average, but his attacks are more high risk/high payoff than anything else. Play him sort of like Wolf, as far as strategy.

Taunts: Spins on one foot and stops facing sideways and tilting his hat down like Michael Jackson; pulls his mustache and poses with one hand on his hip, laughing; stomps back and forth on his feet and slams his fists through the air, yelling.

Entrance: Out of darkness appears a form, spinning queerly. As it stops, it poses and pulls it hat back. It's...Waluigi?

Kirby Hat: Kirby wears the Waluigi hat, of course.

Costumes:
1. Regular
2. White shirt, purple overalls -- "Fire Waluigi"
3. Green overalls, blue shirt and hat -- "Anti-Luigi"
4. Black shirt and hat with white overalls
5. Red shirt and hat with yellow overalls
6. Dark blue shirt and hat with gray overalls

Win Poses:
1. Dances back and forth kicking his knees into the air. "Yes, yes, yes!"
2. Stands with his back to the crowd and pulls his mustache while he laughs evilly. The one eye that's showing glows.
3. Jumps and does the Waluigi "crotchchop," then leans in and slams his finger towards the ground and sticks out his tongue. "You think you're better than the Waluigi? Nyeah!"

Victory Music: Mario Victory, I guess.

Franchise Logo: Mushroom

[Manspeed]

I'm bored too. Let me make some movesets!

Ninten

Debut: Mother, 1989

Description: The boy who preceded Ness and defeated Gigas the first time all those years ago. He's like the midpoint between Ness's power and Lucas's speed in terms of gameplay. Also, he uses a Yo-yo for his basic attacks (like Yo-Yo Kirby from KSS), but PSI for his Smash Attacks. No bat/stick attack this time. His special moves are all completely different.

Basic Moves

A: Punch
A, A: Punch, kick
Ftilt: Yo-yo toss.
Utilt: Yo-yo up.
Dtilt: Yo-yo down.
FSmash: PSI push
USmash: PSI uppercut
DSmash: PSI sweeping kick
Dash A: PSI headbutt

Nair: Sex kick
Fair: Forward PSI headbutt
Uair: Midair PSI uppercut
Dair: PSI drill kick
Bair: PSI backward spin kick

Grab: Pulls foe toward himself with Yo-yo.
Z/A: Punches foe in the face.
Fthrow: PSI throw
Uthrow: PSI uppercut launch
Bthrow: Yo-yo slam
Dthrow: PSI stomp

Special Moves

B: PK Hypnosis
Radiates a psychic field (a la Jiggs' Sing) and anyone caught in it gets put to sleep. The field grows in size depending on how much damage Ninten has taken.

Forward B: PK Paralysis
Looks and operates similarly to Lucario's Force Palm, with bolts of lightning emittng from Ninten's palms. Anyone who gets hit with it will be paralyzed, as if they were hit with a Deku Nut or broke their shield.

Up B: PK Teleport
Allows Ninten to warp from one place to another. Used a a recovery and operates just like Zelda's Farore's Wind.

Down B: PSI Shield
Reflects projectile attacks and does a small amount of damage. Similar to Zelda's Nayru's Love or Fox's Reflector, except you can keep the shield up by holding the button. Doing so will cause the shied to weaken over time, like a regular shield.

Final Smash: PK Beam
PK Starstorm wasn't present in Mother 1, so Ninten gets this for a Final Smash. It works like a cross between Samus's Zero Beam and Lucario's Aura Storm. Ninten stands in one spot projecting the beam out front, but you can use the control stick alter the beam's trajectory as though you were holding a Cracker Launcher.

Miscellaneous:
You can tell Ninten apart from Ness by how he dresses. His hat faces the other way, he has no backpack, his stripes start with yellow instead of blue, the yellow stripes are much paler, his shoes are blue instead of red, his socks are red instead of white, and his shorts are darker. I tried to make him the "third one" of the Mother crew, like how Wolf rounds out Fox and Falco, and Dr. Mario rounded out Mario and Luigi. In this case, he plays like a balance between the two, having a little of Ness's power, and little of Lucas's speed, and a whole bunch of completely different moves. He'd probably play nothing like Ness or Lucas if he were done this way.

[Flip]

I really like that moveset for Ninten, I just wish Nintendo gave him and Ness different appearances enough such that people won't be all confused seeing them, you know?

Here's another from me. Enjoy.

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ALICE

Balloon Fight GB/Balloon Kid, GB(C), 2000/1990

A young girl whose brother was lost when he grabbed on to twin helium balloons and flew away. Alice traversed the many dangers before her, including Pencilvania and a whale's belly, to find her baby brother. For only being 6 years old, she's a pretty tough cookie. This little tyke wanders into the fray to help win big for her and her baby brother. Can the kindergartener do it?

Basic Moves

A: Slap
A, A: Slap, Slap again
Ftilt: Dive forwards
Utilt: Twirl with her bow increasing in size
Dtilt: Twirl on her knees
FSmash: Swings an air canister/pump
USmash: Spreads her hands above her like Sheik
DSmash: Stabs with her palms twice, once in front and once in back
Dash A: Twirling jump

Nair: Slap
Fair: Front flip
Uair: Twirl
Dair: Double kick
Bair: Bow slap

Grab: Short reach, grabs with hands. While she holds them she looks ready to sob.
Z/A: Kicks
Fthrow: Cries and runs into the opponent, pushing them
Uthrow: Ties them to a green balloon and they float slowly into the air. When it bursts it has good knockback.
Bthrow: Leapfrogs over the opponent.
Dthrow: Jumps on their back and dances, like Kirby.

Special Moves

B: Slingshot -- Alice holds out a slingshot and can hold B to hold her fire. The pebbles fly in an arch and she can aim the slingshot directly up if she wants to by holding up, like Pit's Bow. In midair she falls, but with one balloon it slows her descent and with two she can float effortlessly in place. Shots deal minor flinching damage.

Forward B: Static Spark -- Does not require balloons, but animation does change if you have them. Without balloons she shakes and rubs her hands on her dress; with balloons she rubs the balloon against her. Holding B, she will build a static charge. At full charge this creates a short-lasting shield of electricity around Alice that flinches melee attackers and can be used both defensively and offensively. Pressing B fires a spark of electricity slightly downwards. Letting go of the charge holds whatever charge you had and pressing B again lets it go off as a shot; you cannot continue a charge.

Up B: Pop! -- Without balloons this attack is useless. With balloons, Alice will purposely pop one of her balloons with a pin and cause a burst of air to rush out. With some hard controlling, you can angle her ensuing burst upwards towards the left or right but it feels mostly like Dedede's ascent from his own Up B. Not a very powerful third jump and it wastes a balloon, but it works well for height.

Down B: Pump -- Alice immediately starts pumping a new helium balloon with her mechanical pump. Tapping B makes it go faster, and you must tap B to get any air in regardless. In midair she falls a bit slower when using this attack. It is possible to make balloons, then pop them with Up B and recover. The balloons pump a bit faster on land.

Final Smash: Magic Pencil -- Alice pulls out a giant green No.2 lead pencil as a kid's fanfare plays, she gives it a quick thought, then scribbles one of five possible "monsters" to aid her in battle. All the creatures she draws appear and move as if sketched in pencil by a little kid, and while in action she is totally invulnerable while she cheers the creation on. When this attack is finished, the monster disappears as if it were being erased.
Monsters are as follows: Golem, a big dude that walks like a mummy and just knocksback people as he wanders with immense power; Ninja Bunny, who bounces around and slashes players; Butterfly, who flies around the top of the screen and sprays a sleep-causing powder; Thunder Cloud, who flies across the top of the screen and shoots lightning at players; and Shark, who swims horizontally across the stage and attempts to eat players.

Misc. Notes

Out of 5...
Speed: 4.5, Power: 1.25, Weight: 1.25, Jump: (Depends) 2/4/5, Gravity: (Depends) 1/3/5

-First, the mysterious balloons. These work like Pikmin. She starts with two and they each have special damage meters. By getting hit they typically just bounce around, but when taking hard hits or too much damage they will burst and Alice loses a balloon. She can recover one with her Down B, of course. Having no balloons makes her fall fast and have a low jump. With one, however, she gains a second mid-air jump (3 total) and her gravity decreases and jump power increases. With a second balloon this increases yet again to 4 total jumps and lighter gravity with better jumping. Her weight and power are weak but using balloons effectively gives her fantastic recovery potential.
-If you use all your midair jumps and lose your balloons you can pump new ones and REGAIN the lost jumps, as your balloons are new. Just a word of advice.
-The air pump smash is fun and her Uthrow is actually fairly powerful. Abuse those moves.
-Basically just play like you would Olimar: Experts Only, and use a lot of items while biding your time. Alice is not an offensive character in the least.

Taunts: Spins and curtsies towards the screen; waves with both hands at the screen, "Hiiii!"; sniffs and makes a sad face as she looks about ready to sob

Entrance: Floats gently from the sky using a giant blue balloon that detaches, leaving her two red balloons behind.

Kirby Hat: Kirby gets a big bow, of course.

Costumes:
*Note: Color of her balloons also change to match color of skirt
1. Regular
2. All White
3. Orange and Blue, leopard-print bow -- "American Boxart"
4. Green and Blue -- "Jim," her brother
5. Yellow and Purple
6. Black and White -- "Game Boy"
7. Blue and Red -- "Balloon Fighter"

Win Poses:
1. Looks around smiling, then curtsies and bows for the audience.
2. Jumps up and down but falls on her butt and looks embarrassed.
3. Spins and smiles as a big batch of multicolored balloons release from behind her.

Victory Music: "Level Clear" from Balloon Kid

Franchise Logo: Either a Balloon OR the infamous Eggplant

Stages: Just some ideas, not really big descriptions...

Balloon Fight -- Classic 8-bit retro level modeled after Lv.1-1 from Balloon Fight
Crayon Land -- Pencilvania inspired world, fighters brawl on giant floating balloons over a fish-filled sea, pencil "spikes," and other oddities. Has a very "hand-drawn" look about some of the objects, like a kid's playroom.

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SIMON

CAPTAIN N THE GAME MASTER!

Simon is a pretty boy from California who fights Dracula and acts really effeminate but he's not. He loves to brush his air and smile. He is what every man aspires to be.
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*ahem*

SIMON BELMONT

Castlevania, NES, 1986

Simon is the most famous in a long line of vampire hunters: the Belmont Clan. Said to be carrying a whip that is the bane of all evil, the Vampire Killer, Simon set out to stop Count Dracula and his minions at the vile lair Castlevania more than once. He was killed by a curse put on him by Dracula in the late 1600s but is still recognized for his greatness. He is succeeded by his descendants who rival him for fame, Trevor and Richter Belmont.

Basic Moves

A: Whip
Hold A: Spinning Whip (spins around him)
Ftilt: Side whip
Utilt: Up whip
Dtilt: Crouching whip
FSmash: Fire whip (end of Castlevania II, for doubters)
USmash: Axe (height depends on charge, similar to Snake)
DSmash: Whipsnap (snaps on ground before him)
Dash A: Sliding kick

Nair: Forward whip
Fair: Roundhouse kick
Uair: Whip Spin
Dair: Whip downwards
Bair: Hard kick

Grab: Throws out whip which has appearance of chains for the grab. He can grab the ledge with this.
Z/A: Punches
Fthrow: Pulls back and slams them into the ground.
Uthrow: Drops and kicks them into the air, tossing daggers after them.
Bthrow: Spins them backwards and kicks them, tossing daggers.
Dthrow: Shoulder drops them into the ground.

Special Moves

B: Crystal -- From Castlevania II and SotN for doubters. Simon tosses a small red crystal diagonally up or down (hold direction). It has the same power and speed as Pit's Arrows, but cannot be curved. It bounces in completely mirrored angles off walls and works well when stuck facing a corner. Simon can toss out at least 3 before the first disappears.

Forward B: Cross -- The infamous cross item. Simon pulls back a massive blue crucifix and hawks it in the direction pressed. This works almost exactly like the Boomerangs, more like Toon/Young Link's in directability. It deals combo damage and stuns opponents as it passes through them, however it does not travel as far from Simon's body as the Boomerangs would. It returns to Simon in the path it followed, so it does not always come back to his hand. btw, like Dreammix TV, this cross is HUGE compared to the characters. It's easily Kirby sized.

Up B: Barb Whip -- Simon whips upwards at an angle and the Vampire Killer flashes with a strange glowing barb. Is this the Morning Star....? This will work like all other tethers when it comes to grabbing the edge, including a tiny hop when used in midair. Great for nabbing the Smash Ball from below too.

Down B: Holy Water -- Simon tosses a vial of holy water downwards at an angle. Once it hits a target it shatters and bursts into bright blue flames that work pretty much like Ness's PK Fire but stretch horizontally. Not much else to this attack to be honest.

Final Smash: Stopwatch -- One of my two ideas for a Final Smash. Simon throws out the famous stopwatch subitem from the Castlevania games. Everybody in play but Simon slows down from its effects as it hovers above his head. The timer is set for 10 seconds, and the numbers tick down beside the clock. Can you survive the slowdown?

ALTERNATE Final Smash: Item Crash -- Simon was actually the first to use the famed Belmont "Item Crash," contrary to popular belief. Simon flies into the air and yells as one of his subitems flies from his body and has a fantastic effect on the field. Daggers will fly in all possible directions "Gradius-style," the Crystal will refract a large beam of light that surrounds Simon, Axes will swirl from his body and slice opponents, Holy Water will rain from the sky and burn everybody, a Stopwatch will slow time immensely, or the rarer Bible will swirl about his head and recover damage as he fights for the next 8 seconds. The effects are totally random, so which will it be?

Misc. Notes

Out of 5...
Speed: 2.25, Power: 4, Weight: 4.25, Jump: 2.25, Gravity: 4

-As expected Simon plays a bit sluggish, like Snake. His whip gives his immense range potential, though. The majority of its power is in the tip, so remember that well.
-Simon can walljump and tether, but only with his grab and Up B. His regular whip does not grab squat.
-Cool Effect: Simon speaks in German!

Taunts: Turns to the screen and punches one fist into the air while yelling "Victory!"; turns to the screen and holds his whip between both hands, stretching it; stands a bit cocky and throws back his air, smirking.

Entrance: Steps up from the floor as if they were stairs, Castlevania style. Alternate: an axe armor shatters and explodes, Simon slides out from behind it resting his whip.

Kirby Hat: Kirby gets the hair, armor, and his own Vampire Killer!

Costumes:
1. Regular
2. Brown Armor, Blonde -- "Classic"
3. Blue Armor, Brown Hair -- "Richter"
4. Red Armor -- "Trevor"
5. White Armor
6. Black and Purple, Silver Hair -- "Alucard"

Win Poses:
1. Stretches his whip and smirks, saying something in German: "Nothing can stop the power of the Vampire Killer."
2. Turns his back to the screen and kneels, muttering a prayer in German.
3. Spins the whip in a flash and punches his fist into the air, yelling.

Victory Music: "Level Clear" from Castlevania.

Franchise Logo: The Castlevania Bat

Stages: (a mini-description)

Castlevania -- A "dark Temple," the stage is replete with a drawbridge that is drawn to open the way into a moat/sewer area, a clock tower to the right with a massive gear, an observation tower to the left, and numerous window ledges to fight on. There are candles that can be broken to gain items sometimes, bats that fly out to push players to one side of the screen in a flurry, and fishmen that leap from the moat on ocassion. Sometimes the large moon in the background is blood red, in which case the stage "picks up the pace" and the bridge will open and shut more frequently, the gears spin faster, the bats are more apparent, and the water is unswimmable.

Music:

Vampire Killer, Bloody Tears, Bloody Tears Beatmania Mix, Wicked Child, Dwelling of Doom, Bloodlines, Clocktower, and a ton of others

[Goomba Joe]

Wow; pretty obscure character, but sounds like she works very well! Reminds me of Olimar with the Balloon thingy. Plus, Smash could use a cute little girl character ^_^

[Smashchu]

Ninten was a nice variation on Ness/Lucas. That's actually similar to what I thought Lucas should have done. My Waluigi is different. It plays on him being mistivious(really bad spelling) rather then dark. Also, why does Issac shot fire out?

[The Qu]

Well, Push (the Psi energy move his AT uses) is a fire type move, so I guess he could use fire if he were a fighter. Or it was hard trying to think of an all earth moveset. *shrugs*

[Flip]

He doesn't do fiery attacks? I figured because he was Earth he had some volcanic action in there, but I can change it. In fact, I will... But I was under the impression he got minor Fire spells.

[TV Eye]

thequ said:

Well, Push (the Psi energy move his AT uses) is a fire type move, so I guess he could use fire if he were a fighter. Or it was hard trying to think of an all earth moveset. *shrugs*

His Psynergy move is actually called "Move" not Push. Also, though it's fire, he is Earth. He never uses fire (Unless he summons a Mars Djinn...)

fliptroopa said:

He doesn't do fiery attacks? I figured because he was Earth he had some volcanic action in there, but I can change it. In fact, I will... But I was under the impression he got minor Fire spells.

Check out my moveset here.

[Smashchu]

fliptroopa said:

He doesn't do fiery attacks? I figured because he was Earth he had some volcanic action in there, but I can change it. In fact, I will... But I was under the impression he got minor Fire spells.

He can, but that's not what you notice with Issac. My Fsmash for him was Flint actually.

[Arcadenik]

I thought of a similar moveset for Alice, too.

B: rapidly tap the button to pump the balloons, it takes 3 pumps to inflate a balloon... but she pumps so fast like Olimar pulls Pikmin. She can only have two balloons at a time. Based off Balloon Fight and Balloon Kid.

Up B: she flaps her arms to float around, it works a bit like Pit's Up B move. If you have two balloons, you can do this move twice like R.O.B.'s Up B move... if you have one balloon, you can do this once... naturally it won't work if you have no balloons. And it deals no damage. Based off Balloon Fight and Balloon Kid.

Side B: she twirls the Flipper like Pit's side B move. Based off the Flipper item in Melee.

Down B: she releases her balloons. Opponents can be knocked away if the balloons pop. To make up for releasing her balloons, its a Meteor Smash and can really launch her opponents straight up the moment she lets them go. Based off Balloon Kid.

As for her smash moves, I was thinking she could use the balloons. She could punch the balloons and they knock the opponents away. A bit like Olimar, she cannot use Smash moves without balloons.

[Flip]

That's an interesting "Olimar-esque" moveset Arcade, and I like it. I forgot she could detach her balloons in that game. Should've included that somewhere, but oh well. What kind of Final Smash had you thought of, btw?

[Arcadenik]

I hadn't thought up of a good FS for Alice. Maybe she floats away as the fish from Balloon Fight jumps out of nowhere and swallows the opponents to KO them? I guess that might work since the Summit might not come back in SSB4 so the fish still has a part in the game.

[Flip]

Edited my Alice post to include an updated Simon. Enjoy.