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Post by Arcadenik on Sept 19, 2007 16:00:16 GMT -5
I dunno, I kina see Pauline as a sticker. She has done absolutely nothing that could signify doing damage I've got it! She screams "HELP!" in a ear-splitting volume it hurts everyone on the stage!
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Post by angrysun on Sept 19, 2007 16:09:41 GMT -5
I dunno, I kina see Pauline as a sticker. She has done absolutely nothing that could signify doing damage I've got it! She screams "HELP!" in a ear-splitting volume it hurts everyone on the stage! Please don't tell you've been foolishly trying to turn Pauline onto every one... She seriously has no moveset... Only a Final Smash. Peach is more popular anyway.
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Post by TV Eye on Sept 19, 2007 16:14:02 GMT -5
I feel Bowser Jr. has more potential then Geno because of the amount of games he's been in. He also has the paintbrush which would make slime...or something.
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Post by Arcadenik on Sept 19, 2007 16:53:21 GMT -5
I've got it! She screams "HELP!" in a ear-splitting volume it hurts everyone on the stage! Please don't tell you've been foolishly trying to turn Pauline onto every one... She seriously has no moveset... Only a Final Smash. Peach is more popular anyway. Psst.... that was for Assist Trophy. And I know Peach is more popular just as I know the sky is blue.
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Post by thores on Sept 19, 2007 17:30:01 GMT -5
Bowser Jr. has plenty of potential for a moveset without using Shadow Mario. He's proven sneakier and more clever than Bowser, which could be reflected in his fighting style, and he also has his paintbrush. And he's been very important in recent Mario games, even becoming more or less the main villain in NSMB, overshadowing Bowser himself. I don't really like Bowser Jr much as a character, but I wouldn't say "never" to him as a fighter. It's one of the more plausible Mario franchise choices, and it could definitely work. As for Toad being one of the Big 8, this was definitely true 5 years ago, but when was the last time we've seen THE Toad do anything important? Toad has kind of been downgraded to a regular member of his species lately.
Also in response to Fry's "why do we need more Mario characters": Mario has always been treated as the most important franchise in Smash, and I don't see that changing. Besides, I want a total of 5 Zelda characters to be playable (Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, Wind Waker Link, Tingle), and 5 Pokemon (Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Red, Lucario), and I don't see that happening until at least 5 Mario characters are playable first.
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Post by Dances in Undergarments on Sept 19, 2007 18:55:19 GMT -5
The way I see it is like this: Mario's Big Eight are Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Toad, Wario, Yoshi and Donkey Kong. Mario's Big 8 died out years ago, with Toad being kicked out for Waluigi, Daisy and later Bowser Jr. It really now is a big 10. At worst, Bowser Jr could be a Luigified Bowser clone (and a small quick Bowser could be awesome). At best, he has plenty of moves to draw from, enough for an original character.
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Post by TV Eye on Sept 19, 2007 19:03:31 GMT -5
The way I see it is like this: Mario's Big Eight are Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Toad, Wario, Yoshi and Donkey Kong. Mario's Big 8 died out years ago, with Toad being kicked out for Waluigi, Daisy and later Bowser Jr. It really now is a big 10. At worst, Bowser Jr could be a Luigified Bowser clone (and a small quick Bowser could be awesome). At best, he has plenty of moves to draw from, enough for an original character. A fast Bowser would be nice. I don't see why people complain about Bowser Jr. He is a good character. Diddy Kong is to Donkey Kong, as Bowser Jr. is to Bowser.
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Post by Wildcat on Sept 19, 2007 19:12:22 GMT -5
I don't mind Bowser Jr., but I loved the Koopa Kids back in the day, and really wish Nintendo would bring them back more than just mere cameos (i.e. Mario & Luigi...although they were awesome!) over rehashing Bowser Jr. I like their designs much more than his.
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Post by TV Eye on Sept 19, 2007 19:15:53 GMT -5
I don't mind Bowser Jr., but I loved the Koopa Kids back in the day, and really wish Nintendo would bring them back more than just mere cameos (i.e. Mario & Luigi...although they were awesome!) over rehashing Bowser Jr. I like their designs much more than his. I also loved how the American version(?) translated the names into various musicians. Iggy Pop FTW!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2007 19:18:57 GMT -5
I just...don't like Bowser Jr, Waluigi or Daisy at all. That's what it's really boiling down to.
But no, I won't drag it out any more than necessary. I've already said what I feel on the matter.
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Post by Arcadenik on Sept 19, 2007 19:36:43 GMT -5
I don't mind Bowser Jr., but I loved the Koopa Kids back in the day, and really wish Nintendo would bring them back more than just mere cameos (i.e. Mario & Luigi...although they were awesome!) over rehashing Bowser Jr. I like their designs much more than his. I also loved how the American version(?) translated the names into various musicians. Iggy Pop FTW!! The seven Koopalings as Assist Trophies would be awesome! I can easily see Wendy O. Koopa and Lemmy Koopa as assists. Wendy throws candy rings around. Lemmy rides on top of that ball and throws balls around. I am not sure what the other Koopalings can do since they pretty much do the same thing.
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Post by NinjaRygar on Sept 19, 2007 20:00:00 GMT -5
Yeah I'll never understand why they made Bowser Jr. replace the other koopa kids. But that's how it is...
Maybe there should be a sequel to New Super Mario Brothers... where the 7 Koopa Kids are sick and tired of being neglected and decide to get revenge on both their father, and Mario at the same time... by pretty much taking over the mushroom kingdom. And Mario and Bowser jr have to team up. Whoa. That's actually a really good idea for a game! They should totally do that.
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Post by Spud on Sept 19, 2007 22:56:10 GMT -5
I just...don't like Bowser Jr, Waluigi or Daisy at all. That's what it's really boiling down to. But no, I won't drag it out any more than necessary. I've already said what I feel on the matter. Waluigi is probably the most original of all of them, but he's confined to Mario Spinoffs and not even Wario Games. I mean theres a squiggle in one of the Wario Ware games that slightly resembles him and thats as close as he has come. Siriosly Nintendo make A Waluigi FPS for crying out loud.
Yeah I'll never understand why they made Bowser Jr. replace the other koopa kids. But that's how it is... Maybe there should be a sequel to New Super Mario Brothers... where the 7 Koopa Kids are sick and tired of being neglected and decide to get revenge on both their father, and Mario at the same time... by pretty much taking over the mushroom kingdom. And Mario and Bowser jr have to team up. Whoa. That's actually a really good idea for a game! They should totally do that. I don't know about a game but a 70s sitcom might work.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2007 23:41:52 GMT -5
Er...calling Waluigi original is...difficult.
My main beef with him is that he's a tool. He's the anti-Luigi; that's his entire identity. Wario on the other hand has so many character flaws that he's one of Nintendo's best creations of all time--Fry once said something to the extent of, "How can you not call a hero whose defining traits are greed, gluttony and lack of personal hygiene original?"
Waluigi is just there to balance out character rosters of various Mario spinoff titles. He doesn't even have an impact in WarioWare, which is where he'd really get a chance to shine.
I'm not completely opposed to him, though; he is my best character in Mario Power Tennis. If Nintendo could do more with him than just making him take up space, I'd be behind them 100%, but until then he's got less to his credit than Bowser Jr.
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Post by Flip on Sept 20, 2007 0:31:18 GMT -5
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