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Post by Sqrt2 on Dec 7, 2007 8:08:31 GMT -5
Even though he was obscure before he appeared in SSBM, Mr. Game & Watch was added, not only to represent Nintendo's first handheld games That's funny, I'm sure I read somewhere that Mr G&W, didn't exist before his inclusion in Melee. And I'm also sure it was on these very boards as well (I believe I said that something like your quote above and Fry told me off for it). |
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Post by TV Eye on Dec 7, 2007 8:43:04 GMT -5
I don't remember G&W being obscure, evereyone had a G&W...
And Gunpei Yokoi was a respected member of the Nintendo community, he created the GameBoy for God's sake! It only makes sense they add a character of his creation.
And Marth? He was among Nintendo's first medievel game, he is a perfect character, and I could also see Takamaru in as being Nintendo's first (and only) samurai game. But Demille? Stafy? Should they be in because they have a limited fanbase? See, I don't think so. Marth is coming to America so he won't be Japan only for much long.
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Post by Flip on Dec 7, 2007 8:46:37 GMT -5
Frankly, there's no such thing as Japan-only in Sakurai's eyes. I mean, obviously the term exists. But he's included enough Japanese content to basically throw that whole concept out the window.
It's a battle between worthy characters. That's... really it.
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Post by rukifellth on Dec 7, 2007 15:04:08 GMT -5
Agreed! DeMille thoe art hopefully worthy!
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Post by parrothead on Dec 7, 2007 15:23:46 GMT -5
The G&W series was obscure a short time before SSBM was developed and released.
Stafy doesn't have limited fanbase. Didn't I say he is popular? If popularity seriously means everything, then Stafy is a good choice. The Stafy series brought the Platform game genre to a new level.
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Post by Flip on Dec 7, 2007 15:29:16 GMT -5
Stafy doesn't have limited fanbase. Didn't I say he is popular? If popularity seriously means everything, then Stafy is a good choice. The Stafy series brought the Platform game genre to a new level. But the point is it's NOT popuarlity! It's worth! Waluigi may be popular as all hell, but is he worthy of a spot in the roster? Probably not. Are the Ice Climbers popular? Not by a longshot. But they appear anyways. inb4lamereply |
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Post by rukifellth on Dec 7, 2007 16:15:13 GMT -5
True, but as mentioned before. games like Fire Emblem, would never have reached the US or EU if Marth and Roy had never entered Melee! So having Stafy and Demille, might be worth it for Nintendo, due to it increasing their popularity in the rest of the world, and having their games released in US and EU!
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Post by Johans Nidorino on Dec 7, 2007 16:41:41 GMT -5
Those mutual cameos between Stafy and other internationally known game series make Stafy an interesting character in my opinion.
I'm not sure if the G&W example was good, because of the Game Boy Gallery / Game & Watch Gallery series. Some gamers born in early 90s did play it and knew its original essence by playing the classic mode.
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Post by parrothead on Dec 7, 2007 16:53:24 GMT -5
True, but as mentioned before. games like Fire Emblem, would never have reached the US or EU if Marth and Roy had never entered Melee! So having Stafy and Demille, might be worth it for Nintendo, due to it increasing their popularity in the rest of the world, and having their games released in US and EU! But Marth and Roy didn't cause Nintendo to release FE 1 - 6 outside of Japan. They caused Nintendo to release FE 7 - 10 (11 if the DS FE title was released worldwide). However, they might release FE 1 - 5 on the Virtual Console. And I doubt that Nintendo divisions outside of Japan would release Tomato Adventure and the first three Stafy titles, because of the GBA becoming obsolete. Perhaps the fourth Stafy title would be localized and released worldwide, but it's been over a year since it was released in Japan. |
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Post by TV Eye on Dec 7, 2007 17:02:34 GMT -5
I meant limited, as only Japan. Limited doesn't mean small (though I guess it can) but cut off. I don't feel like paying an extra 50 bucks just to import some game from Japan that I can't even tell what's going on.
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Post by kirbychu on Dec 7, 2007 18:01:55 GMT -5
And I doubt that Nintendo divisions outside of Japan would release Tomato Adventure and the first three Stafy titles, because of the GBA becoming obsolete. Perhaps the fourth Stafy title would be localized and released worldwide, but it's been over a year since it was released in Japan. That didn't stop Capcom from eventually localising the Phoenix Wright series. |
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Post by parrothead on Dec 7, 2007 19:22:10 GMT -5
I meant limited, as only Japan. Limited doesn't mean small (though I guess it can) but cut off. I don't feel like paying an extra 50 bucks just to import some game from Japan that I can't even tell what's going on. Well, if you bought it, and if anyone releases a full translation patch for it, you can now play it better. There is a walkthrough for it here. And I doubt that Nintendo divisions outside of Japan would release Tomato Adventure and the first three Stafy titles, because of the GBA becoming obsolete. Perhaps the fourth Stafy title would be localized and released worldwide, but it's been over a year since it was released in Japan. That didn't stop Capcom from eventually localising the Phoenix Wright series. That's true, but I'm actually talking about Nintendo, not 3RD-party developers. The Phoenix Wright series is owned by Capcom. |
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Post by kirbychu on Dec 7, 2007 19:24:03 GMT -5
That's true, but I'm actually talking about Nintendo, not 3RD-party developers. The Phoenix Wright series is owned by Capcom. Reread my post, plz. I'm well aware of that. |
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Post by parrothead on Dec 7, 2007 23:33:38 GMT -5
Here are where the requests for DeMille are found in the poll: Request #283Request #246I've decided to leave them Japanese, because there was a bunch of question marks shown on my browser. Also, I didn't want Excite to translate it into English. Here are all the requests saved by the Way Back Machine. That's true, but I'm actually talking about Nintendo, not 3RD-party developers. The Phoenix Wright series is owned by Capcom. Reread my post, plz. I'm well aware of that. I did. Custom Robos would make good Assists, thinking about it. They'd be tiny but powerful, and shoot at your opponents, but be difficult to see. Same with Captain Olimar, his Pikmin and Chibi-Robo. I remember there was a SNES game with Hebereke as the protagonist, named "Popoitto". Any relation to feces in that name? No, but strangely, Sunsoft's localizing divisions outside of Japan didn't change Hebereke characters to Ufouria characters for some reason. |
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Post by Flip on Dec 8, 2007 10:33:03 GMT -5
I remember those posts. One goes on about the Gimmicks, and the other about what a fun game it was. I'll find that old Smashboards post where I attempted to read what they were saying (and hilarity ensues!) Also, Custom Robo makes some good Assists. As does *dun dun dun* Pikmin. Swarming your foe with mini-Pikmin would be hilarious in battle. EDIT: The TopicIt's somewhere around page 20 or something. I'll dig later. |
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