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Post by The Qu on Jul 24, 2008 22:20:12 GMT -5
 Still the same design, but there are figurines of Sigurd around the web and etc. The blue idea's just stupid. Let me prove it. It's American boxart. Yeah, I saw that pic. It was smaller when I found it though. When you say blue, you're talking about Luigi's Mario Bros. or the Ice Climber idea, right? |
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Post by Dasher Misire on Jul 24, 2008 22:48:16 GMT -5
Well I meant Luigi but realized Fry said that on the first page. Whoops.
The Ice Climber idea's a stretch. A big big stretch. Ice Climber and Balloon Fight now share a universe but dunno if that applies for Balloon Man to Sakurai.
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Post by Fryguy64 on Jul 25, 2008 7:48:20 GMT -5
OK, time to run through some more of these ideas. Or at least the ones that have something worth commenting on... there's a lot of weird and highly unlikely suggestions coming up, so if they don't appear here then you'll have to do a better job of convincing me. Kind Dedede's AltsThis is interesting. Can anybody confirm? Or do I have to dig out my N64 again?  Olimar's Black OutfitI'm still sceptical. I'll stick Pikmin 2 in and check this, but I seem to remember him wearing his black suit - and his helmet wasn't tinted was it? Captain Walrus's big Snake postThanks for those! Mario / Foreman Spike AGAINWhat do you mean "realistically coloured" Qu? If that original cream and brown one is confirmed as a Spike cameo (which fits his original sprite), and the colours were changed in Brawl to black and white, then it's not a cameo any more. Spike doesn't wear black or white. So it's not a spike cameo! Pink LuigiI'll mention this. I'd completely forgotten this was a consideration, but really it's not too far-fetched. Bowser's Morton Alt.I'm sorry, but as I'm going to start saying a lot here - if it's meant to be a cameo, especially of an unlikely character, then it'll be a full-colour cameo. It won't be half-a-cameo or kind-of a cameo. Yes, Morton has a white shell with yellow trim. But all of the other colours are wrong, so it's not a Morton cameo. Blue ZeldaShe wears white and light blue in her ALttP sprite and artwork - not blue and dark blue. Is it a reference? We don't know. Production Model SamusProduction Model might mean it was a work-in-progress colour scheme, or it might even mean an action figure used these colours. I don't think it's got anything to do with people imagining green in the Super Metroid sprite. Blue Peach from Mario is MissingNo. American game that wasn't developed OR published by Nintendo, and can effectively be written off as "nonexistant" in the Nintendo stable. And are you sure that's supposed to be Daisy? I couldn't stand playing those games, so I don't know. Dark LinkI'm not saying it's not specifically referencing the TP model. I'm just saying not to get hung up on "these two exactly-the-same characters have different American names, so can't be exactly-the-same". Need I mention Barba and Volvagia? Gold LinkUra-Zelda - wasn't this OoT Master Quest? Is the gold tunic still in it? Because if it is... Luigi's Orange & Blue (Balloon Fight)Interesting idea - Player II in Balloon Fight would have an inverse colour scheme to Player I. Quick question... what about the more recent Balloon Fight game in WarioWare? I can't remember the colour scheme in that. Ice Climber (Balloon Fight)Too unlikely. For starters, the costumes are completely different. Balloon Man has red body armour red hat and a jet pack, red gloves and red boots. Secondly, this game was never released in Japan. Again, if it was going to be a cameo, it would clearly be a cameo. Mario Inversed (Balloon Fight)Now THIS is an interesting idea. I like your thinking Teev. I'll add it to the collection of good ideas. I know I say we "solved" this one, but I really do like it. Ike (Sigurd)Hmm... I'm mostly convinced - I just need to check. If anyone can link to a better Sigurd image, that'd be great. |
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Post by Swedol on Jul 25, 2008 8:04:37 GMT -5
Mario / Foreman Spike AGAINWhat do you mean "realistically coloured" Qu? If that original cream and brown one is confirmed as a Spike cameo (which fits his original sprite), and the colours were changed in Brawl to black and white, then it's not a cameo any more. Spike doesn't wear black or white. So it's not a spike cameo! Mario wear Dark Brown and White Dammit. |
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Post by Grandy02 on Jul 25, 2008 9:13:35 GMT -5
Luigi's Orange & Blue (Balloon Fight)Interesting idea - Player II in Balloon Fight would have an inverse colour scheme to Player I. Quick question... what about the more recent Balloon Fight game in WarioWare? I can't remember the colour scheme in that. The Balloon Fighter's colour scheme differs between his appearance in the microgame Balloon Fight Arrangement (orange and blue) and the "full" mini-game Ballon Trip (red and blue). These screenshots should answer your question: Balloon Fight microgameBalloon Trip mini-game (title screen)Balloon Trip mini-game (gameplay) |
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Post by Fryguy64 on Jul 25, 2008 9:38:38 GMT -5
Mario wear Dark Brown and White Dammit. Err... extremely dark brown. So dark that it's essentially black. So dark that you are completely missing the point and it looks nothing like Foreman Spike's colour scheme. |
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Post by TV Eye on Jul 25, 2008 10:29:17 GMT -5
Mario wear Dark Brown and White Dammit. See, this is why comma's are important. Fry totally misunderstood what you said, Swedol! |
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Post by Spud on Jul 25, 2008 11:31:26 GMT -5
Gold LinkUra-Zelda - wasn't this OoT Master Quest? Well no. Ura Zelda and OoT Master Quest have very little alike. The increased difficulty levels were part of Ura Zelda. But so were The new tunics and using the medallions as Items and such. Apparently it would even be compatible with The Mario Artist Studio stuff for players to make their own custom masks. |
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Post by The Qu on Jul 25, 2008 15:25:22 GMT -5
When I say realistically colored, I mean that it, like Mario's standard cotume from SASB64 has been colored more like actual jeans than the very blue jeans from SSB64. Hope that makes sense...
Another source I've heard may be the source of Dedede and Meta Knight's alts is Kirby Air Ride. Forgot to throw that out there earlier.
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Post by Fryguy64 on Jul 25, 2008 20:47:36 GMT -5
Gold Link
The history of Ura-Zelda is sketchy. I understood that Ura-Zelda was the 64DD add-on for OoT, cancelled worldwide and eventually introduced in the Master Quest disc on GC.
Which is why I asked. If it was still on the Master Quest CD (which I never finished - I just remember cows being in Jabu Jabu's Belly) then that would immediately be the winner.
More Foreman Spike Madness
Yes, the jeans-like colours makes sense, but that doesn't explain why Wario can mimic the Foreman Spike colours (albeit reversed) but Mario can't.
Kirby's Air Ride
This game is no longer in my collection. If anyone can confirm, that would be great!
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Post by The Qu on Jul 25, 2008 21:07:43 GMT -5
Well, Wario's dungarees are closer to 64 era colors, as they lack texture and won't look as odd with the cartoonish colors. Compare his Mario Bros. Mario & Luigi alts to Mario's. While more minuscule with Luigi, both have coloring differences. IMO, this would explain why Wario's 'Spike' alt has revearsed colors from 64 and Mario's has blacker looking colors. I hate going back and forth on this since it makes me sound douchy...
I've got KAR, so I can try to check out the alts. I haven't unlocked either Dedede or Meta Knight, though, so it might take a while. I don't have a way to screen cap, either, so a crappy picture will have to suffice if need be.
BTW, when are you going to update the first page?
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Post by Dasher Misire on Jul 25, 2008 21:08:06 GMT -5
I think Meta Knight and Dedede were only playable in one choice of colors.
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Post by Swedol on Jul 26, 2008 8:42:11 GMT -5
The blue and the white DK could be references to these bears.  |
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Post by Manspeed on Jul 26, 2008 9:02:30 GMT -5
Nah. I'm pretty sure DK's blue costume previously appeared in DK64's multiplayer mode, and the white fur is an outside reference to Eddie the Yeti from the DKC cartoon.
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Post by Spud on Jul 26, 2008 9:20:13 GMT -5
I think Meta Knight and Dedede were only playable in one choice of colors. In KAR? No they had multiple colors. They counted as vehicles. |
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